Most certainly is not a learned behavior. First time I remember uncontrolled anger, I was traveling from Beale Air force Base to Marysville, California as a small child in the back, and saw in the irrigation ditches in the farm land a little fat girl my age jumping up and down with her arms flapping as her parents hosed her. I was enraged wanted to kill her for looking so stupid.
The anger is natural. What came next, questioning myself as to why, was natural as well, but some people can go a lifetime without developing that further capacity.
The initial angry surge in largely unavoidable. Bewilderment and seething will naturally result, the ability to control, smother, suppress or reason it doesn’t override it’s Genesis.
Remember the final episode of Battlestar Galactica when he choked the fuck out of that bitch? You can’t really suppress that reaction. Stoicism for the most part doesn’t claim (a few do, they aren’t too smart or honest) you can immediately control such a action. Most legal systems separate crimes of passion, oftentimes completely understandable, however otherwise horrible, from premeditated killings. We all get why the loving husband entering into the bedroom, seeing his wife with their neighbor in bed, might go crazy on them. Is it a get out of jail free card? Almost never not, but we all totally get that shit none the less.
Anger needs an outlet, having a go at Turd is mine which doesn’t faze him for he’s a waste material anyway, so all is right in the world. Do I need to trash him more often for his trash talking judgments of pretty much everyone else? He merits my anger and theirs since his unhappiness and dissatisfaction always surfaces in his philosophical trolling? Protective feelings have developed for other members who he maligns with regularity. Am I too angry or is this natural in regards to Turd?
You don’t have anything to weigh you down. It’s just as unfortunate as the the stupid girl. You can be on the outiside, okay, but not “down on the level”. Which, yes, does provide earthly sprititual access. You curse the thing you wish to experience if only for sake of saying there is some wisdom in being stupiid. Don’t you worry super tough, experience weak bitch, you’ll get your humble pie a second before you go to heaven.
Researchers have found that behaviors such as anger, hostility and aggression may be genetic, rooted in variations in a serotonin receptor gene, which may explain why there are several members of a family who have anger problems.
Or why a person could be deemed innocent of all the consequences.
No on the latter. It isn’t neural modulators that is the Hallmark of our type, but inhibitors. We’re a big old fucking operators switchboard for the mind. Serotonin High or Low isn’t the issue, but how we channel that impulse. Someone too young, too stupid (as in retarded) are blameless, but we otherwise learn literally how to control ourselves in situ,and if we find we can’t, learn by a certain age certain situations and crowds are best avoided. I know a guy with tourettes syndrome, impulsice OCD, his disorder crisscrosses over my area alot, so I can catch inside aspects of his thinking. He also has a gambling addiction. Nobody expects him to control his mouth,but we expect him to avoid gambling. He has seen the movie Out Of The Furnace, says it isnt realistic, he wouod know, he essentially is “that guy”.
He also has a bizarre pantyhose fetish, makes strippers put a new pair on each time… thats avoidable too. Cursing in the backroom, barking incessantly isn’t. Its a very fucking funny disorder. Walmart cashiers see him coming with those pantyhose, ask for cash back, all in ones… they know.
Any emotion left uncontrolled becomes a problem. Not only anger. The reason anger is singled out is due to the predominance of passive mindset.
There are two ways in which a passive mindset can judge anger as being fundamentally bad:
Because people who are angry are quite likely to cause harm to others, and because passive people judge the worth of actions based on the kind of effect they would have if they were directed at them, anger is judged as negative. In plain terms, anger is bad because someone who is angry at you makes you feel uncomfortable.
Because anger is mentally and physically demanding, and because passive people are mentally and physically weak, they have no experience of healthy anger. Instead, they only have experience of frustrated and/or lightheaded anger. Furthermore, if they have no memory of healthy anger, and if they cannot resolve frustrated and/or lightheaded anger without eliminating anger altogether, then they have no choice but to confuse the two: frustration (and/or lightheadedness) and anger. Thus, they think, anger is bad, because anger is equal to frustration (and/or lightheadedness), since when you eliminate anger you eliminate frustration/lightheadedness (but you also eliminate frustration/lightheadedness when you eliminate life, and yet, few argue that life equals frustration/lightheadedness.)
Anger, like every other emotion, is neutral per se. It acquires value only when you relate it to its actor, namely, when you measure the effect it has on its actor.
Anger, like every other emotion, is bad only when it is uncontrolled or misdirected.
There’s a lot of that about… the main type of anger in current climes from my experience and observations, but denial is strong until it is too late and damage has been done and relationships ruined. I do think that drugs has a lot to do with misdirected anger, but again… denial is also strong in those with misdirected anger issues during their weeks or months of comedown.
The modern terminology for all such types is ‘toxic people’… probably because they are literally full of toxins (amphetamines, opioids, whatever other amines / ioids).
I mainly get angry at shitty technology… definitely not misdirected
I wouldn’t necessarily use the word “learned” behavior.
It’s more of an unconscious inner reaction to some kind of stimulus or trigger.
Patterns from childhood which we haven’t been able to “see” and transcend are more instinctive, no?
I don’t know - perhaps the above can be seen as learned behavior.
Is instinct learned behavior?
Anger doesn’t have to be a negative. It just depends on what is provoking the anger and what behavior occurs as a result of it.
If the anger has an intelligent response and one strives to keep it in check, to be more balanced and restrained in its expression, and is directed towards a greater good than it is a positive anger and a conscious one.
Turd does not make me angry me at all. As a wise and educated man I very much value his contribution to the forum
He also has a very dry sense of humour like mine. After Trixie he is my favourite poster here so hope he stays for life
I deal with my own anger by being open minded and isolated from other human beings and not worrying about things that are beyond my control
I realise that I am only passing through this life and that nothing really matters in the grand scheme of things and therefore anger is unnecessary
Being a loner does not automatically immunise one from anger but it can however reduce it significantly
And as an emotional being I cannot eliminate any emotion but can keep the negative ones to a minimum
Memories can trigger anger as can the way of the world regardless of how one lives
But as I said it can be reduced significantly if one is a loner so that is what I choose
I would have thought the opposite would apply, being alone affords one the opportunity to concentrate exclusively, to go over and over the details.
Are memories so powerful?
Solitude is the gasoline on the fire.
Time is the smouldering remains.
Is anger something to be ashamed of, something other people should never witness?
Is suppression of anger healthy and displays of unhealthy.
