Ierrellus: Can a human who has not experienced all that exists confirm or deny the existence of a god who may be the sum total of all that exists? So you, P.K. have come to know all that can possibly exist given 40 years of personal knowing?
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K: I have often asked believers this one question: OK, if you believe in God, where
is the evidence? Show me proof of any kind, that god exists…
I’ll wait…
I: Show me proof that subatomic particles exist.
K: The modern world operates with the use of subatomic particles…
for example, without subatomic atoms, you don’t have microwaves and
nuclear weapons and X-ray machines… without the use and understanding
subatomic atoms, the modern world doesn’t exist…
but say that isn’t enough for you, ok, go to an accelerator,
CERN or I live very close to the Stanford accelerator, i drive over it
every time I go south on 280, and they will show you subatomic
atoms with every collision… they take pictures of those collisions
and I have seen those pictures as you could if you simply use your computer,
which functions because of use and knowledge of subatomic atoms…
You might say that is not enough proof… well you can’t experience
subatomic atoms physically, but you can see their effect in our world
and beyond, so yes, subatomic atoms exist because we can use science
to predict their presence and we use science to create uses for them,
we use science in subatomic atoms to model and understand the
universe… without subatomic atoms, all our science and technology
would fail and given the successful state of science and technology, it is clear
our understanding of the universe is a correct one and that understanding
includes subatomic atoms…
you might say, but that is not enough, I want to physically see subatomic
atoms, you can, just google it and you will see pictures of it as it is
split by other atoms in accelerators like CERN and Stanford… not enough,
can’t help you there as then you are denying the obvious whereas
you can’t show me any proof of god, of any kind, and it doesn’t matter
how much you believe if you have no proof of any kind…
Kropotkin