"Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Transition from a society based on exploitation to one based on enlightened brotherhood is never without growing pains. In the 1960’s I was a conservative until the shootings of MLK, Bobby and students at Kent and Jackson State Universities. Those things woke me up from my “dogmatic slumber”. Although we have made some inroads in civil rights, etc., our government remains resistant to change. Trixie may be right about the sad state of current society. But I don’t see the revolutionary fervor to fix it, as was experienced in the 60s as clearly evident in century 21. Maybe I’m too local to realize what’s going on 2016.
Maybe the internet will serve as an instrument of peace and justice. It will have to mature beyond its current fixation on popular t. v. sports and movie stars.

We cannot change reality, we can only change ourselves as individuals and influence reality in a beneficial way.

Currently, Society is in a cycle of harm and based on empirical experiences, it’s extremely difficult to stop the cycle as an individual… this is what must happen for real change though, we as individuals, must cease propagating the harm. We must accept reality for what it is and what it isn’t, we must shed the ideologies that keep us in constant conflict (with our self and others). Only then can we reduce the stress that keeps us distracted and self-absorbed, allowing us to fix oursleves and as a result prevent the propagation of further harms onto others. Over time, the more prevailant this outlook becomes, the less dysfunctional our Societies will become.

We falsely believe that these damaged people that run around in our Society, doing things that damaged people do, is their choice… they’re simply doing what they’ve been conditioned to do. The cycle of harm has made such behavior normalized to their perspective. These harms they suffer generally result in numerous and/or extended periods of the fight or flight response, which wasn’t designed to be utilized as frequently as it is in today’s Societies… these responses create a virus-like spread, infecting all those who come across it… escalating the already insane stress levels of Society and leading to even more fight/flight responses in others.

Mental illness is the result of these things and pretty much everyone could be diagnosed with some manner of it. As a Society though, we only diagnose the unproductive and we only care about making them productive again (doing so in the quickest and dirtiest way possible). As long as you’re viewed as a productive member of Society, no one gives a shit about your problems, they’re clearly not bad enough to need treatment since you’re productive… even though your issues manifest in a variety of harmful ways to yourself and others.

Want to change the world, start by changing yourself… stop harming others and try helping them instead. Your interactions with the world influence it and those around you, both harm and help spread like viruses… take ownership for your actions, make things right when you fuck up, no matter how much easier it is to disregard the people you’ve hurt. Lead by example, influence others to treat others well.

Alternatively, get inhumanely wealthy and famous, then use those resources to actually make a much more significant difference.

I completely agree with what you say "Mental illness is the result of these things "…
here is the science to prove it:

First read (as much as you can):
djedefsauron.net/index.php?o … Itemid=125
then read:
slideshare.net/psymarine/king-dopamine

Yes, even i reach the same conclusion, that’s the only way to make a difference… to become famous for something good, if not necessarily rich – that can be done given the power of information in our hands.

It’s easily observable and quantifiable, it’s not a “major issue” by Society’s standards, so it gets little attention… instead we focus on hair loss and boner pills :stuck_out_tongue:

yeah, it is but the ancient human/monkey tradition of targeting the symptoms, not cause.

for symptoms like hair loss & impotence… a lack of Norepic activity (“Chi energy”) is the underlying cause.
This cause can most easily be addressed by fixing the surroundings, modifying the environs* in which people live (or, mostly, only exist, as of now)…

there is one good news from this end, tho: soon i’ll finish the creation of a project management website … so that we can get together with other logical folks to define and achieve this end.

What future of treatment? As Allen Frances (the DSM-IV Task Force Chair and author of Saving Normal: An Insider’s Revolt against Out-of-Control Psychiatric Diagnosis, DSM-5, Big Pharma, and the Medicalization of Ordinary Life) put it in his Wired interview with Gary Greenberg (a Ph.D level psychotherapist, widely acclaimed journalist and author of The Book of Woe: The DSM and the Unmaking of Psychiatry and Manufacturing Depression: The Secret History of a Modern Disease) titled Inside the Battle to Define Mental Illness, “There is no definition of a mental disorder. It’s bullshit. I mean, you just can’t define it.”

Fixed Cross says orgonite is a effective way of battling mental afflictions and chemistry imbalances.

quebecorgone.com/

You know what’s an even better method of battling mental Illnesses? Quit being pussies, start doing right, quit being all the wrong that you known is wrong and actually fix yourselves. God, what a fucking concept.


^Donald Trump as supreme commander of the mental health industry.^

Sitting around and waiting for others to help you when you’ve got to be able to help yourself and you’re truly the only ones to know yourselves well enough to do so, is rather foolish.

I have fixed my own head before… by using nothing more than ‘focus’ ‘perspective’ ‘meditation’ and ‘positivity’, but I’m not sure if all mental ills can be resolved through any or all of those methods.

I am a guru unto myself…

True, mags, but most of these people sitting here whining and arguing in empty fashions aren’t fixing their problems. Other methods do get employed after a bit, have to be. Then comes the facts of them not being only our issues, spiritual possession is real, the voices in our heads aren’t all ours, people can repress their emotions and force them on us through abusing psychic powers and universal secrets/forbidden knowledge.

I had to fix myself several times to get anywhere with it in terms of self confidence in being a good person and confidence in success before coming to realize beyond myself and the accepted reality of society. Now, I employ a lot of mixed martial arts of the mind, fight a lot, constantly, every day, all day. It’s a pain in the ass, but the stupid sons of bitches made it way too personal. I turn their tricks back on them and they hate me for it, that I dare interrupt their tyranny and oppression.

If our problems were just us, we really would be our own worst enemies, but some of us just are not that stupid. Self preservation.

So far, I’ve been able to go 13 weeks without alcohol and 9 weeks without tobacco. I’ve accomplished this after over 50 years of smoking heavily and drinking at least a quart of beer a day. I attribute my success on these matters to good meds (I suffer from major depression) and good, cognitive therapy. I did not just pull myself up by my own bootstraps. I simply said enough is enough and am trying to stick to it despite my spells of depression.
So it’s not all bad out here in therapy land.

Fixed Cross says thats pretty unspecific.

he gave you a specific what do you do? call it pussy.
lol. **

(he was laughing and pouring resin)

*is that what you call doing good pissing on people doing good… like a good little democrat :imp: :imp:

Most people just too dumb or weak to figure out how to even do one single good thing in a day besides not fucking up entirely for the rest of their life.

Some people have actions they make, they accomplish sometimes, sometimes they manifest, but always they are loathed… by the figureheads of the Demos

you know the man wants sickness for his people
All medicine is uncool or unscientific… unless, you are smart.

THEN YOU WILL MAKE SCIENCE YOUR DOCTOR

:mrgreen: :bulb: :mrgreen:

I found it! ~ Archimedes

i dont believe in quitting but I believe in discipline. Congrats.

salutes

lights heroin pipe and sticks ketamine in black whores ass

Congratulations, Ierrellus, glad for you! Tobacco and alcohol are really paths to psychosomatic unrest… I’ve used tobacco myself, gave it up for good though… and as for alcohol… never was much into that, thank goodness. Some say it’s a multi-pronged attack on the brain

And Ierrellus… while on the topic of Shrinks… I want you to watch “Dark City”, the 1998 film by Alex Proyar (which is considered the precursor of the far more famous The Matrix), specifically Dr. Schreber or someone plays the Shrink.

Thanks. I love science fiction and will see if our library has a copy of “Dark City”.

I’m glad that after all this time you have stopped enjoying victimhood, and taken some steps to improving your life.
Some walking in the fresh air, will also be good for you, as well as helping to clear your lungs of all that tar.

Enjoying victimhood, Lev?
Lev just called you a sadomasochist … a psychosadomasochist. But who enjoys depression?

PS: Talking about long words beginning with “psycho”, there’s one I hate: psychopharmocology. Pseudo-scientific bunkum disguised in white collar criminality.

I’ll take the liberty of sharing with you an email I received. I can’t help this guy… is there anyone out here who can?

Here it is:

#1:

[i]you may help me solve one problem to which I got due to a mistake made by a doctor. I was misdiagnozed with schizophernia and treated with atypical antipsychotics for roughly two months. I’d say it was a heavy treatment.

I did some research about issues associated with antipsychotics mode of action, and I have a suspicion that my dopamine receptors (particularly D2 and D3) stayed upregulated to a certain extent above normal. I wonder if you can assess or estimate the extent of DA receptor upregulation based on a dosing regimen and a time that passed since the last dose. I would send you the dosing regimen.

This information would greatly help me because I could work with it further.[/i]

#2:
Nice to get to know you too!

<<But I’m afraid that I’m no expert in this very specific area of biochemistry.>… he’s quoting me…>

[i] And do you know someone who is?

I’m sending it in an attachment.

I’m actually applying the method for downregulation of DA receptors by levodopa use (studies confirmed this). I feel a lot better, but in fact, I’m not really sure whether there is still an upregulation. Neither I’m not sure how much levodopa daily is needed for downregulation and for how long.

Is there any need for cannabis, then?[/i]

<<You know… as always, I’d advised him to explore cannabis>>

Attachment:

[i]Treatment lasted about 2 months.

First 48 days (daily, taken together):

  • Sulpiride 3 x 50 mg
  • Olanzapine 3 x 5 mg
  • Clonazepam 2 mg

Note: In first 2-4 weeks (don’t know the duration), the Sulpiride and Olanzapine were replaced by these:

  • Risperidone 1 mg (max 3x daily)
  • Amisulpride 50 mg (max 3x daily)

Next 21 days (daily, taken together):

  • Sulpiride 3 x 50 mg
  • Olanzapine 2 x 10 mg
  • Clonazepam 2 x 0.5 mg

I titrated off the medication in about a week, in January 2016.

Then, from June to September (4 months) I took Cabergoline 0.5 mg twice a week to lower prolactin.

I know that it’s relatively long time since last dose, but from my observation and from experiences of other people, I believe that my DA receptors must still be upregulated to a certain extent (+ lowered DA levels and neurotransmission), because it is said that upregulation (caused by medication or not) itself decreases neurotransmitter levels, and for downregulation, you need to “flood” receptors with it’s ligands, and since there is lowered DA activity, I assume that it would take some time to down-regulate receptors to optimal density and at the same time balance DA levels and neurotransmission to optimal state, in my opinion.[/i]