What You feel in Your Heart
I tend to follow my heart, and my gut.
So far it has left me alone and abandoned, and in some cases exploited.
Starting to question whether or not this will ever pay off.
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06-10-2013, 04:22 AM (This post was last modified: 06-10-2013 04:23 AM by Fixed Cross.) Post: #2
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RE: What You feel in Your Heart
I know how that is.
In fact the only times where I made lasting progress that I still feel, solid as rock, is when I let my mind play around with what my gut and heart were driving towards, and create something higher from it.
It’s not either the heart or the mind, it’s the mind designing to secure what the heart wants, by applying it in intelligent and creative ways.
This is also the key to tantra. Let the energies rise, and then as they are in full force, begin to shape them in sophisticated, functional patterns.
The only problem is that this requires patience and concentration. And that’s not always easy when there are gut-energies at stake.
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06-10-2013, 04:28 AM Post: #3
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RE: What You feel in Your Heart
No, it’s not always easy, but what you said helped.
Thanks.
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Bitcoins/Litecoins/NMC/PPA
It’s looking like these will end up being gold/silver/copper/whatever
Currently Bitcoin is trading at ~150 USD
Litecoin and NMC/PPS are yet to really stabalize, but are around 3.5 and 0.01 respectively.
I have heard rumors that it’s being intentionally popularized and bloated by the government so they can crash it and destroy any momentum is has going.
It crashed in 2011 and came back, though. So I am wanting to say that the cryptocurrency is here to stay.
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04-06-2013, 12:12 PM (This post was last modified: 04-07-2013 08:40 PM by Q.) Post: #2
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We could start a NWO fund and ride this wave if anyone has any extra cash. I plan to jump into Lite and NMC as soon as I can figure out to get my Canadian dollars into this thing. It’s… hard. Lately all the banks are cutting ties to any money exchangers that you could use to buy up CryptoCoins.
The war has started.
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I fucking sat and watched this way back when, and didn’t think so myself, “I should throw $300 into this thing.”
Literally 2 years before that I had my computer ready to actually mine but then I sort of was like “fuck this.”
Things could been different, boys and girls. But then again, ain’t nobody got time for the shoulda coulda wouldas.
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04-06-2013, 08:12 PM (This post was last modified: 04-06-2013 09:30 PM by BigTom.) Post: #4
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I’ve gotta be honest, I only know about bitcoin and I am deeply, deeply suspicious. For one thing, no one has been able to give me a simple answer to how it works. It seems they’ve invented a whole load of terms that mean something in the bitcoin world but are meaningless to anyone who isn’t using them. This smacks of a tree house kind of mentality, to me.
Second, how is it that there is a limited supply of them? I appreciate that having a limited supply creates a kind of built in deflation so as an investment they may (just may) make sense. But it means they are rubbish as an everyday transactional tool. Who limits the supply, and what happens if someone goes over the total designated number? How is forgery combated and thus the limit enforced? Given that most of the people using bitcoins don’t even understand it well enough to explain it to a non-user that’s a worry.
Third, it seems the only way you can use a bitcoin in the real world to buy something is either off another bitcoin user (which the limited supply means is very limited in number) or by cashing them out into dollars or pounds or Euros or whatnot. Thus, they haven’t really subverted anything, they are just a kind of digital tag along to real money.
Fourth, given that one of the obvious aims of the centralised banking and financial structure is a cashless society, this all strikes me as pre-conditioning.
Fifth, the recent spike in bitcoin prices has made the mainstream news. That doesn’t happen unless it has been done deliberately. You think the mainstream news talks about an alternative currency in a positive light without it having been co-opted? I remember just before the spike that several of my online friends who previously didn’t seem to know about Bitcoin were suddenly embracing it like it was the new sliced bread. Do you think that happens without a buzz (and thus a bubble) being deliberately generated? Now that the prices has gone up that makes bitcoin owners feel like they are smart, part of an elite who gets what’s going on, when of course they aren’t any fucking richer than they were yesterday. They can’t use those bitcoins to buy food or pay their electricity bill. They are being put in the exact same position as all those traders in the City and on Wall Street who thought at the top of the bubble that they were the kings of the world. If a big crash does happen (rather than a gradual managed decline) then those bits of encrypted code aren’t going to be worth anything.
All that said, I am not opposed to investing in a different digital currency if you wanted to pool a few bucks and take a punt. If nothing else it would be an interesting experiment.
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I have heard rumors that it’s being intentionally popularized and bloated by the government so they can crash it and destroy any momentum is has going.
I’m definitely suspicious too. I mean… it was on the Good Wife.
However, the answers to your questions as to how cryptocurrency works are out there. It’s basically just an algorithm that releases bits in relation to the number of people solving the problems. So if more people mine, the “difficulty” goes up.
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04-06-2013, 09:29 PM Post: #6
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That seems to me like a reckless faith in what’s basically a made-up bunch of symbols with no inherent value.
And they are asking me to trade real things for this? In relative terms, I can see how the paper money that’s accepted everywhere for everything even with its built-in inflation is more attractive to a lot of people. But I suppose it’s about exploring what’s possible.
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04-06-2013, 11:20 PM Post: #7
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Well, an algorithm is hardly a bunch of made-up symbols to any extent beyond any other linguistic or logistic formation.
Science is found in the question “how do you know?”
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04-07-2013, 01:33 AM Post: #8
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And if I were backing my entire currency with syllogisms then I’d expect the same resistance.
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04-07-2013, 06:14 AM Post: #9
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BigTom, is paper money really any more made up? Using your criteria for calling the bitcoins made up bs, what saves paper moneyz?
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04-07-2013, 06:24 AM Post: #10
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RE: Bitcoins/Litecoins/NWA
The physical backbone is the mining structures. It scales with technology as it advances.
Where this differs from what I would expect TPTB would want in a world currency, is everyone can mine if they want to and feel like it.
The Russians have these big rigs. So do hacking groups. There is a certain open lawlessness here that many people, myself included, seem to like in comparison to the current alternative.
They might have seeded it; we might have thought it up.
Apparently the head crypto is very mysterious. Often/sometimes people get into that field to avoid b&, but also the people in that field are sometimes the ones comiting the acts that the viewers need to encrypt. That is, that dark ritual stuff overlap between the government, corporation, and elite occult - the sex slavery ring I’m not saying this guy is anything other than the inventor, just that the whole encryption field is ostensibly a little bit shady so that is something to consider.
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Of course, obviously he would want to hide his identity, so I might be over thinking this.
The question is this: now that it is out in the open, can it be made viable by -us-? I mean, even if they gave it to us that doesn’t mean we can guerrilla warfare this thing.
When I go on these boards it’s like the Wild West, as I said. Shit is happening right now. This is a moment of flux. We should pay attention. I have to go to my parent’s house today, I plan to do some more research into investing. Stay tuned.
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04-07-2013, 06:59 PM Post: #12
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(04-07-2013 06:14 AM)pezer Wrote:
BigTom, is paper money really any more made up? Using your criteria for calling the bitcoins made up bs, what saves paper moneyz?
The fact that everyone, everywhere, accepts it in exchange for things. That’s what gives it value.
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04-07-2013, 07:32 PM Post: #13
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That wasn’t the criteria you used to dismiss bitcoins.
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04-07-2013, 08:05 PM Post: #14
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Bitcoin will be the biggest transfer of wealth in human history and it’s all going to the most technologically advanced, visionary thinking and intelligent demographic. Just think of what they will do. It wasn’t about connections, nepotism or being born to the right family, it was about seeing what others couldn’t and being technologically advanced enough to participate. This is history in the making.
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04-07-2013, 08:09 PM Post: #15
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No advantages over dollars.
You mean besides the fact that you can send money to anyone in the world, immediately, without an intermediary that stipulates whether you may or may not do so? One of the reasons people have problems exchanging Dollars for Bitcoins highlights this fact: Payment processors like Paypal and Google Checkout have terms of service dictating what you’re allowed to buy. Bitcoins are not on the list. If anything you should be pushing for a currency that cuts out a middleman like that for your own sake, since those same payment processors present you with restrictions that are unneeded.
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04-07-2013, 08:11 PM Post: #16
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I’ve been trading currencies of all kinds as a hobby for over seven years. You want some free advice, /g/? Stay FAR away from BTC right now, either as accepted payment or a currency to hold. I’m actually trying to weigh some short options on this. When the currency implodes, and it will very soon, the fallout is going to be EPIC. If you haven’t sold your holdings, now is the time if you haven’t done so already. The first leg down is going to move very fast.
This time next year, you’ll be able to buy BTC for pennies on the dollar. Those of you who know how markets work probably know what I’m talking about already.
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04-07-2013, 08:12 PM Post: #17
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That’s what people have been saying for YEARS. It has only appreciated in value since then. There have been a few crashes, but if you didn’t panic you would have gotten your money back with massive interest every single time.
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04-07-2013, 08:15 PM Post: #18
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I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK TO DO
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04-07-2013, 08:24 PM Post: #19
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Other than build a fucking time machine so I can go back and put some money on the cubbies.
Some of these stories are making me sick to my stomach.
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04-08-2013, 12:06 AM Post: #20
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(04-07-2013 07:32 PM)pezer Wrote:
That wasn’t the criteria you used to dismiss bitcoins.
I didn’t dismiss them. I expressed suspicion.
(04-06-2013 09:29 PM)BigTom Wrote:
That seems to me like a reckless faith in what’s basically a made-up bunch of symbols with no inherent value.
And they are asking me to trade real things for this? In relative terms, I can see how the paper money that’s accepted everywhere for everything even with its built-in inflation is more attractive to a lot of people. But I suppose it’s about exploring what’s possible.
See, when it’s a choice between a currency backed by symbols with no inherent value, and a currency backed by nothing but accepted everywhere, the fact of it being accepted gives it a provisional value that is worth more than the provisional value of bitcoin. If you don’t believe me then feel free to trade all your ‘worthless’ paper money for bitcoins, see how far you get.
If you make it work and prove me wrong then I’ll be the first to admit it.
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Other than build a fucking time machine so I can go back and put some money on the cubbies.
Some of these stories are making me sick to my stomach.
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You won’t like this then:
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RE: Bitcoins/Litecoins/NMC/PPA
You’re turning I to a bit of a Corbet zealot.
This same thing happened in 2011 and Bitcoin bounced back. One of the wallets being hacked at this point is an inevitability that has now transpired. Moving forward the right amount of security will be present.
Bitcoins have many flaws that Litecoins don’t. It may not prevail as the leader.
Anyway, none of this has to do with goin back and putting some money on the cubbies. Whether or not this is a viable longterm currency is irrelevant to making money.
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04-08-2013, 03:05 AM Post: #23
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m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ADXs2C4Vm…DXs2C4Vmho
Look at all that syntactical garbage. Fuckin mobile. And I can’t embed on my phone. Blep.
Anyway, this the cubbies thing I keep referencing. Great movie. Probably seen it like 50 times with my sister.
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04-08-2013, 03:07 AM (This post was last modified: 04-08-2013 03:09 AM by Q.) Post: #24
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Remember the dot.com bubble? How money was simply up for grabs? It’s like that. I need to throw $50 into this just in case before Wednesday. If I lose it I at least won’t be kicking myself for not trying.
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04-08-2013, 03:20 AM Post: #25
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K I’ve watched the Corbet thing twice:
All he really says is two sites have been hacked. It’s been more than two, but in a Wild West scenario that is going to happen. Without question. And like I said it will drive security to the levels it should be at.
Instead of suggesting caution but interest, Corbet is just taking the same old conspiracy stance of not really saying anything and injecting fear of ‘the master plan’ into the dialogue.
I’m kinda tired of it. For a guy who has been ‘following this since 2011’ he seems to have little to no knowledge of the technical side of it.
You could be right that this will not last, but seriously. What a completely useless report.
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04-08-2013, 03:57 AM Post: #26
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(04-08-2013 02:18 AM)Q Wrote:
You’re turning I to a bit of a Corbet zealot.
This same thing happened in 2011 and Bitcoin bounced back. One of the wallets being hacked at this point is an inevitability that has now transpired. Moving forward the right amount of security will be present.
Bitcoins have many flaws that Litecoins don’t. It may not prevail as the leader.
Anyway, none of this has to do with goin back and putting some money on the cubbies. Whether or not this is a viable longterm currency is irrelevant to making money.
(04-08-2013 03:20 AM)Q Wrote:
K I’ve watched the Corbet thing twice:
All he really says is two sites have been hacked. It’s been more than two, but in a Wild West scenario that is going to happen. Without question. And like I said it will drive security to the levels it should be at.
Instead of suggesting caution but interest, Corbet is just taking the same old conspiracy stance of not really saying anything and injecting fear of ‘the master plan’ into the dialogue.
I’m kinda tired of it. For a guy who has been ‘following this since 2011’ he seems to have little to no knowledge of the technical side of it.
You could be right that this will not last, but seriously. What a completely useless report.
I hate to break this to you but that isn’t Corbett, it’s some guy on youtube who buys and sells silver.
Nonetheless, I accept that the report is extremely biased, I wasn’t posting it because I found it particularly credible, more because it kinda fitted with one of your comments. Clearly the guy’s agenda is to shit on bitcoin, but he does raise the perfectly fair point that bitcoin has no real answer to this. It’s like watching a brand new anarchistic society realise that getting rid of government doesn’t mean people won’t get raped.
That said, I am not opposed to people buying bitcoins or similar, I’m just saying that there’s a long way to go from bitcoin to a proper monetary revolution.
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04-08-2013, 06:05 AM (This post was last modified: 04-08-2013 06:15 AM by Q.) Post: #27
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The thing about the order from chaos thing is that once the chaos stage begins, anything can happen. We’ll have to watch this carefully this week.
Lol that is funny I totally thought that was Corbet. My bad.
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Damn dude, I am getting infected with your bitcoin desire. I’ll see what I can do.
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04-08-2013, 07:16 PM Post: #29
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THE CUBBIES!
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Mining either LTC or NMC starting tomorrow. Gonna try to buy some if I can sort out this bank shit in Canada.
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Right, it’s almost perfect. What we need is an algorithm that can produce an unlimited amount of bitcoins, yet which complexity would regulate the flow by the same peer-to-peer logic.
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04-09-2013, 11:50 AM Post: #33
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Bitcoin is one part of this thread.
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Interesting, yes… It’s much more than a currency, it’s a system of currency.
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04-09-2013, 12:17 PM Post: #35
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You nailed it.
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And, to finally answer BigTom’s question, the final unit of value is hardware.
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04-09-2013, 01:06 PM Post: #37
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Money is weird.
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04-11-2013, 05:18 AM Post: #38
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A friend of mine who invests in bitcoin showed me that bitcoin’s own data indicates that there were periods of extremely high buying and selling immediately prior to the major fluctuations in recent days.
Naked short selling isn’t really possible with bitcoin so they are having to do it the old-fashioned way. I say don’t put any money on the Cubbies that you can’t afford to lose. But then, I don’t bet on sports even when I know I’m going to get the result right. That’s because I’m sometimes horribly wrong, like when I predicted Alonso would win this year’s Malaysian Grand Prix.
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Gambling is only for those that can be masochistic if needed, true enough. Anyway, don-t bet more than you can afford to loose is good advice for this and any new gambling enterprise.
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Thanks guys.
How bout getting off all these antibiotics?
How bout stopping eating when I’m full up?
RE: Bitcoins/Litecoins/NMC/PPA
So how are you getting along? Has your algorithmic prospecting resulted in a stack of digital coins that are worth more in fiat currency than they were this morning?
I don’t mean that question anywhere near as cynically and sarcastically as it probably comes across. I’m genuinely interested.
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04-13-2013, 04:16 AM Post: #42
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RE: Bitcoins/Litecoins/NMC/PPA
No. It’s like impossible to get any money online in Canada. There is one bank that allows it, and the friend I have with that bank is in Vegas.
The bitcoin stuff is likely done. It might go a bit higher. I am just watching Litecoins. It’ll prob go from 5 where it’s at now to 25-50. I’m gonna throw some money on there when I can.