Will there be war in Europe before 2050?

It is a pure struggle for power around gas pipelines to Europe.

The following picture shows the gas pipelines to Europe:

[u]Nabucco Pipeline Project[/u]

The Nabucco-West pipeline (also referred to as the Turkey–Austria gas pipeline) is a proposed natural gas pipeline from the Turkish-Bulgarian border to Austria. It is a modification of the original Nabucco Pipeline project, which was to run from Erzurum in Turkey to Baumgarten an der March in Austria. The aim of the Nabucco pipeline is to diversify the natural gas suppliers and delivery routes for Europe, thus reducing European dependence on Russian energy.

The original project was backed by several European Union member states and by the United States, and was seen as a rival to the South Stream pipeline project. The main supplier was expected to be Iraq, with potential supplies from Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, and Egypt.
The main supply for the Nabucco West was to be Shah Deniz gas through the proposed Trans-Anatolian gas pipeline (TANAP).

The project is being developed by a consortium of six companies. Preparations started in 2002 and the intergovernmental agreement between Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary and Austria was signed on 13 July 2009. After an announcement of the construction of TANAP, the consortium has submitted the Nabucco-West project. Construction of Nabucco-West depended on the gas export route decision by the Shah Deniz consortium. After Shah Deniz consortium decision to prefer the Trans-Adriatic Pipeline over Nabucco, Nabucco’s shareholders have to decide the next steps for the project.

The Nabucco project is backed by the European Union and the United States. In the Trans-European Networks - Energy (TEN - E) programme, the Nabucco pipeline is designated as a project of strategic importance. An objective of the project is to connect the European Union better to the natural gas sources in the Caspian Sea and the Middle East regions.

The project has been driven by the intention to diversify its current energy supplies, and to lessen European dependence on Russian energy—the biggest supplier of gas to Europe. The Russia–Ukraine gas disputes have been one of the factors driving the search for alternative suppliers, sources, and routes.
Moreover, as per the European Commission, Europe’s gas consumption is expected to increase from 502 billion cubic metres, in 2005, to 815 billion cubic metres in 2030, which would mean Russia alone would not be able to meet the demand.

The original 3,893 kilometres (2,419 mi) long pipeline was to run from Ahiboz in Turkey via Bulgaria, Romania, and Hungary to Baumgarten an der March, a major natural gas hub in Austria.
In Ahiboz, it would be joined with two feeder lines, one connecting to Georgia in the north (South Caucasus Pipeline), and the other connecting to Iraq (pipeline to be built) in the southeast.

It would be fed also from the Tabriz–Ankara pipeline. 2,730 kilometres (1,700 mi) of the pipeline was to be laid in Turkey, 412 kilometres (256 mi) in Bulgaria, 469 kilometres (291 mi) in Romania, 384 kilometres (239 mi) in Hungary, and 47 kilometres (29 mi) in Austria.

According to Reinhard Mitschek, managing director of Nabucco Gas Pipeline International GmbH, construction of the pipeline was scheduled to begin in 2013 and would become operational by 2017. However, in June 2013, the Shah Deniz Consortium had chosen a rival project, Trans Adriatic Pipeline, that has a route Turkey–Greece-Albania-Italy, and the future of Nabucco project is unclear.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabucco_pipeline

Trans Adriatic Pipeline

South Stream Project by Russia was cancelled because Bulgaria buckled under sanctions.

It’s now pursuing the Blue Stream Project through Turkey.

This gas pipeline politics is primarily directed against Russia. … Do you smell the coming war?

The following map shows pipelines in Europe, including cross-border, international pipelines which originate or end in European countries. You can click the map to see an enlarged version. On the map and table, pipeline label codes are colored green for oil, red for gas and blue for products, such as gasoline and ethylene. The diameter, length and capacity of the pipelines, if known, are shown on the tables.

The German government called upon the population today to store up food and water for at least two weeks in case of a possible armed aggression and oncoming catastrophe.

Here are some sources:

Tensions running high between Ukraine and Russia.

All of this happening within the same week of Ukrainian politicians saying they’re bracing for a ground invasion by Russia. Fancy that…

Ukraine and Russia, yes, and do not forget the situations in Israel, Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, … (Kurdistan). They all are not very far away from Europe.

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I voted a no as there is no way I will be able to verify this as I will most likely be dead before 2050 (given my family history).

One Liner, “before 2050” also includes the near future, for example the next hour. :wink:

I voted yes, unless Europe can again reclaim its place in its superior historical superiority in political science, and solve this certain slippery slope.

I believe, this can, and must happen, in spite of its very checkered past.

If Europe will continue its self-destructiv politics, then there will be no future for it.

Will you be dead in 2018-2020 though?

There is no livable future for civilization across the planet more likely.

There has never been so much violence (compare alone the current number of wars and warlike events) in the world than today (which roughly means from 1990 till now).

Please read this:

Whatever Duterte’s reasons are, the UN is indeed as corrupt as the US and the EU are.

Include the Roman Catholic Churc in the list. The very bodies trying to influence opinion there are very guilty.

Points of fact: the Catholic Church disallows birth control, effectively causing large scale human right violations, such as child prostitution, mass starvation.

The US government and major world powers give generously to aphumanitarian agencies and directly to the government, knowing that the monies meant to being it the victims of natural disaster so prevelant in that part of the country, end up in Swiss bank accounts belonging to various politicians.

The drug lords, both Philippino and Chinese, rake in huge profits, causing further economic decline, poverty ap, illness and death, from an area with a staggering 50% plus unemployment.

He is absolutely right to model his policies after Signapore, with similar problems and solutions. Another instance of outside pressures in the name of good will, human rights , and the insincerity of alleged foreign aid.

My official position on this matter is that there is already a war in Europe (it’s just a different type of war) and it’s a war that will get a lot worse as time progresses.

What you are describing here can also be said about the Occidental nations, especially the US nation: “… birth control …, … effectively causing large scale human right violations …, … natural disaster …, … end up in Swiss bank accounts belonging to various politicians …, … drug lords, rake in huge profits, causing further economic decline, poverty ap, illness and death, … unemployment …, … in the name of good will, human rights , and the insincerity of alleged foreign aid” …