Oh he’s an ‘ex’ leper… I guess I was too engrossed in Gotham to hear his high-pitched warbling properly. The cure has affected his livelihood.
You can’t please those that cry for blood… this is not a Roman arena with an endless supply of victims to throw to the lions for entertainment, and this is evident in the ‘Introduce Yourself Here’ thread.
I personally like the stricter moderation style that some sites have.
Take it up with one of the other multiple people that have accused you of anti-religious bigotry. I already told you I’m not having it here.
You’re the only one who accused me of bigotry, Uccisore.
Sure Angry, sure.
I’ll settle this shit right now.
WW2, you’re probably a bigot. Because most people are.
Ucc, you’re definitely the most biased person here with moderator powers. It’s like a known thing. You give the radical right wing line on literally everything. It’s like you’ve never said a single word that wasn’t plagiarized from Rush Limbaugh. It’s comical at best, and offensive at its worst. You think that people who are in the center are radical leftists. That’s just the simple fact of the matter and I don’t think anyone would dispute it. So by virtue of your political leanings, you’re probably a bigot too.
Now you 2 kiss and make up.
What if the leftists are in that said “center”? And they think that they are. Don’t they? According to them everything and everybody is a rightist. And so it is. In other words: Rightist are a minority (at least in Europe) that becomes more and more tiny. And that is what the west really is currently: a world of leftists. A world of all-leftists is not a “better world” but the hell.
Back to the topic of this thread:
Why are some ILP members not banned, although they are trolls, whereas others are banned, although they are no trolls?
Arminius, that was a clever argument but it doesn’t reflect the way things actually are.
Regardless of Ucc’s views and stances on a myriad of subjects, whether biased, evil, or whatever, he does NOT abuse his moderator authority.
Yeah, he might see the entirety of the universe in terms of the left/right dichotomy and from the farthest right side, but he probably wont ban me for pointing that out. Hell, he might not even think it’s a negative thing to say.
Regarding the second part - I’m not aware of anyone who has been permabanned for reasons other than trolling/flaming, besides spambots.
There’s a large grey area for “trolling” - as long as you are not the moderator in question, there is likely to always be people you consider clearly trolls, and/or people who are being unjustly persecuted by overzealous moderators. If we took a zero-tolerance policy we would end up with a very quiet forum of a few posters with a single posting style.
So it’s always a balance. And there will always be people who are unhappy with where the balance lies. There are a considerable number of posters who fundamentally dislike/reject authority, some for philosophical and some for psychological reasons. There are some who dislike conflict. Some posters have less refined social/political skills than others, some worse tempers, some more extreme positions. And very, very many who see any exercise of moderator power as being personal prejudice rather than an attempt to accommodate a range of posters and foster productive discussion. 
I’m certainly always interested in feedback. I’ll also certainly never satisfy everyone’s expectations of a moderator, any more than I can provide a perfect forum for everybody.
There are three possibilities why you are reacting that way: (1) you are a leftists too, (2) you have misunderstood my statement, (3) you are a leftists and have misunderstood my statement (=> 1 and 2).
Leftists have occupied the center and the right wing, but they would never admit this, they would never say that they are rightists, but they are. The new rightist will never say “I am the rightist” but will always say “I am the anti-rightist”. Leftists live on the hardship of the poor people, and the poor people are becoming more and more, which is what the leftists want, must want, because they live on them. Just because others do not want to bite the dust (to lose their competences), they become leftists too. If there were no poor people, the leftists would immediately invent them. Leftist need the poor people because they live on their hardship.
This, what I just described, is the situation in Europe, at least in Old Europe, and I am pretty sure that it is not much different in the USA.
That’s right.
I believe you. But there is another interesting feedback: Many ILP members like trolls, and one of the feedbacks is that some of the moderators tend to like trolls too. So in the final analysis many ILP members and some moderators do sometimes not know who is a troll and who is not a troll.
Man you’ve got it backward. In the US, the right wing wants to let wall street do what they want and they want to cut any program that helps anyone. The left want people to be able to go to the hospital and want wall street to have to chip in some tax money to make that happen.
if forum is maintained by 10 fellows.
Each fellow invest like - 50 $ per month
I’m ready to work for 500 $ per month
do consider.
I’m confused. Do you mean that we (some of us) like trolls in general, or specific trolls, or that we don’t know who’s trolling and like posters without realising them to be trolls?
I’m pretty sure the answer to that is “yes”.
Oh, I’m sorry.
I mean the latter, although maybe there is one of you too who likes trolls in general ( 
), but that is not what I am talking about. I just think that some (thus: not all) of the posters influence some (thus: not all) of the moderators / administrators a bit, not always but sometimes, and that we have to separate “classical” trolls from trolls who are not or at least not at once recognised as trolls by other posters and moderators / administrators. I mean: How do some (thus: not all) certain posters try to appeal to other posters here on ILP? By philosophising? No, but certain posters and moderators / administrators think that it is philosophising. By trolling? Yes, but not always in the “classical” way, because trolling on the internet has developed since the beginning of the internet.
Would you deny that there are influences between posters and moderators / administrators? - I don’t think so.
No.
Did I say anything much different? The left wing populists say that the right wing wants the Wall Street to do what the Wall Stret wants, so it is right that it is said so, but the truth is that th left wing does the same, so that one can also say: the left wing is the right wing too (there is no real difference - except the rhetoric). Who of the cowards would ever publicly admit being a rightist? No one. Here on ILP you have the same result. Look here.
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No one wants to publicly be a “rightist”.
The current fashion is still being a leftist, and in modern times the fashion dictates the moral. So “being a rightist” means currently “being evil”. But what does that mean if a leftist is also a rightist and no one wants to publicly admit being a rightist (just because the purposely made fashion forbids it).
You may elect as much as you want, you will never get a true left or a true right politics, because both are currently the same when it comes to the real politics, since the global rulers who blackmail the politicians do the real politics.
That is what the “leftists” are telling you rhetorically - over and over again.
What they extra-linguistically do is very much different from what they linguistically (rhetorically) do.
Okay, there is a little difference between the US-American “left”/“right”-thing and the European one, but this is at last negligible. It’s only words.
For a further response I would like you to post in another thread (you may quote my post there) in order to not derail this thread. Okay?