The Slavery That Does Not Exist Yet Does Anyway.

Typical upper class drivel.

Back in the day they would enslave people because they were deemed inferior human beings, today we enslave people because they brought it on themselves due to inferior choices. Same bullshit response.
Of course that presumes that the choices spoken about in society and civilization are theirs or even real to begin with.

It makes no sense other than for Royalty.
While everyone else needs paper and coin money to survive, there are royal families sitting on underground treasures.

Ask yourself why you are a serf and serving in their army.

I won’t do any of it, so I sit around the house doing nothing but having the desire to leave this country and live someplace quite a bit nicer and much richer.

Yes, we call that wealth inheritance. Most people go through the motions because all of human civilization is bred in captivity, some much more worse than others of course.

i sort of agree with you. Like you say, it is the same response: They might as well be enslaved because they are inferior / they didn’t make the right choices. But slavery is a malleable term that lends itself to hyperbole, of which you are probably a bit guilty. In any case you’re right, there is a sense in which doing menial tasks for lousy pay all day long is slavish and dehumanizing, and the fact that rich people get even richer as a result of people doing menial tasks for lousy pay all day long demonstrates that certain types of slavery are alive and well.

Modern slavery in the west especially isn’t the same kind of slavery of the past. I wouldn’t make that assertion.

I would say that today’s slavery is more evolved and profound by comparison to yesterday’s slavery.

Like anything else it has adapted, evolved, and changed overtime with our environment.

I created this thread because what I find interesting especially in the west is the denial such slavery even exists at all hence the title of this thread. The typical narrative governments of the west even though unfounded and without evidence is that everybody possesses freedom equally. I mean, how nonsensical and nonconforming to reality is that?

We all know that is total bullshit but the public goes along with that narrative nonetheless in affirming it as truth.

It’s all rather unbelievable. It is that public and societal deniability that I find the most interesting.

Living in a goldfish bowl from the day you are born till the day you die is also a form of slavery. Of course those who
do this get used to it but at least I can go where I want without the world following me everywhere. But there again
if I had been born into it my perspective might be some what different. So then making value judgements about the
experiences of others when one has no personal point of reference for them is a tad superfluous. My own solution to
slavery is to work within the limitations that I have imposed upon me and not to worry too much about anything else

That sounds great but I’m not from some upper class. Neither are most people. And most people at least recognize that to an extent, one’s station in life is determined by his own choices.

The mere fact that we can only survive within a very narrow band of temperatures and have to eat food, drink water, and sleep every day makes it virtually guarenteed that most of us will spend a good portion of our day doing things against our will.

Given that you really cannot lay around doing nothing or goofing off all day (without relying on other people feeding, watering, and sheltering you against their will), is being a ‘wage slave’ really so bad compared to alternatives that result in people having what they need?

There’s a difference and you know that. Things of nature are out of our control existentially versus what we do to each other is in our control a majority of the time.

You’re just making up excuses as to why working for others in co dependency is a good thing, why wage slavery is necessary, and as to why a command economy is perfectly justified. A plantation owner trying explain why having a plantation is perfectly reasonable and necessary.

Mr. daytrader that goes on vacation almost every month isn’t a part of idle leisure upper class? :laughing:

You submit choices where there are none since the game was rigged a long time ago.

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wealthandwant.com/themes/Wage_Slaves.html

You gotta risk it to get the biscuit. I probably grew up with less than you. I just made the choice to have financial discipline and delay my gratification. 5 years ago I had no heat and my car was a piece of shit.