Clockwork Blue

This shows a lack of understanding of astrology, which is understandable, but still. There are many ways to arrive at traits and tendencies. So you cannot simply narrow it down to a single date and time. You could likely eliminate many dates and times, a large percentage, if you knew the person fairly well. You could, for example, have anal tendencies, in the Freudian sense, through the placement of Saturn or what is in a certain house or sign. Their will be nuances that are different, perhaps, for example motivations. But similar personalities can be built up in different ways.

What’s the insurmontable evidence it is all that?

Even if that were not the case, even is he came up with a spot on description of you, he would only be telling you something you already knew so, even if you believed in it, what would be the point?

I’m saying you can’t determine a birthday based on the traits. Are you arguing against that?

No, I was saying that your argument was weak and showed a misunderstanding of astrology. (which was clear)

If I say the moon is a satellite of the earth because it is pretty

I may very well be correct that it is a satellite, but wrong about my justification for that belief.

If you are taking a poll when you post here and just want people to agree or disagree with you that’s fine, but have your own thread.

Here I responded to your argument.

No, I was saying that your argument was weak and showed a misunderstanding of astrology. (which was clear)

If I say the moon is a satellite of the earth because it is pretty

I may very well be correct that it is a satellite, but wrong about my justification for that belief.

If you are taking a poll when you post here and just want people to agree or disagree with you that’s fine, but have your own thread.

Here I responded to your argument.
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Ok well I don’t know how that is the case. Astrology claims to know your personality based on what day you were born, but how would that mean it can’t or shouldn’t know what day you were born based on your personality?

Late for Valentines.

Personality is not quantifiable so It’s impossible to give an astrologist a detailed enough description. Therefore, he can’t calculate the birth date.

Yet some less than detailed aspects of personality are “quantifiable” from a birth date?

A massively challenging chart. No peace of mind but tremendous coherence therein (in that violence) , and pleasure. Power of the Mutable cross sans Sagittarius. A trickstr of the first order.
An impressive tension.
But Venus curiously isolated on Ptolemy’s exaltation degree of Mars. Austere Venus, high matetialistic standards. Very arrogant and untied. Must see house positions to see if lucky in love.
Most astrologers will refusecto do a chart without time and place.
Up close, in Pisces: Mars Mercury, rhetorician. Pallas Moon, emotional strategist. Sun there, all this seems to come from the persons individuality. Powerful personality, domination complex through opposition all that with Virgo Uranus Pluto, generational conjunction.
This person represents an essence of a synhetic generation by putting it against pure Romance. Essentially a violently challenged romantic.

Ww
I was an idiot doing a 3 minute reading of you. I wanted to get it over with.
I overlooked that the center of your square is moon Uranus. Challenging sexual appetites to begin with. Panicky responses to own feelings which are however perfectly well coherent. Frustrating reasonless obstructions, intense pride issues. Acting too quick for ones own bemefit.

This is a traditional interpretation of your Uranal moonshine.

Spot on…he’s the real deal folks
A mind to be discovered as a great sage in the future.
He has insight into Magic.
A warlock among us.

WW at the same time your moon trines Neptune. An aspect that softens the other but by dissolution into trances.

This is a free association an astrologer gives for Moon Neptune aspects in general.

I feel so, so, naked…vulnerable.
As though he were peering into my soul, and not me displaying my nature openly…seeing my most private side.

So many details only few know about.
Only my most intimate friends…and family could have known and yet, he saw…he, saw, ME!!!

Time
8:00 am

Place
Sparta Greece

I do declare…I think I dropped what was left of my dignity.

Transference of performance to stars, not stars to performance.
No time and place given.
The entire planet was Pisces on that date.
All born on that day share this "reading’.
A clan of Pisceans roaming around.

The stars acting as a mystical vehicle to express evaluations by observation, then claiming humility to hide judgment.
The Priest using God, the holy spirit, to express his opinion.
Magician wanting to imply he is channeling natural forces, and not using his judgment, based on evaluation of patterns displayed freely, over time.

Maybe you should look up quantifiable in the dictionary. Nobody has even gotten a quantified personality profile from astrology.

May 28th, 1977. Maine, U.S.

I know the definition of quantifiable, you’re the one that brought it up as if it was some sort of reason why it shouldn’t be able to calculate the birth date. A birth day is not a quantity, for one. Secondly, I had no idea why you used quantifiable, which is why when I used it, I hoped to use it with whatever bizarre meaning that you may have meant it as. Which apparently you didn’t use it in a bizarre way.

So in any case, if someone is providing a personality from a birth day, then they should also be able to provide a birth day from a personality. Or at least a general guesstimate of a birthday. Unless, it doesn’t matter what personality they have because its not related to their birthday. If that is the case, then of course, we have bullshit here in astrology.

That’s the claim. Hope it makes sense now. No need to bring up quantities to this type of discussion.

Has something changed?

FFS

Arrogant, very arrogant, and extremely arrogant are personality traits but they are not quantified personality traits. Quantified traits would require a standardized system of measurement.

With measurement systems for a large number of traits, then you could potentially relate the personality traits back to a birth date.

As it is, astrology claims to be able to identify some general personality traits based on the position of heavenly bodies at the time of birth. These are qualified traits not quantified traits.

qualified : 2. limited, modified, or restricted; not absolute

Here is a really simple example which shows that you can get some information from a place and date of birth, but you cannot calculate the place and date of birth from that information:

Given place of birth and date of birth, calculate age of person.

Easy.

Given age of person, calculate date of birth.

Not possible.