You know, Juan, when I started my daily process at the “library”, I had intended to apologize since the events of Monday night are often vague and leave me with a kind of reverse Vertigo of the Possible that opens me to the possibility that I was being a bit of an asshole. But then I read what actually happened and realized even though I was “a bit of an asshole”, you were really not as interested in any kind of discourse as you were a pissing contest. Having read your points in a more lucid state of mind, pretty much every sentence you wrote read like a McLachlan approach to philosophy”
“WRONG!!! Laddy daddy da da, DA! DA! DA!”
You were basically heckling me as was evident when you wrote:
“I read what you wrote. And responded based on what you wrote. That´s precisely why I concentrated my response in those parts where I disagreed. Pure and simple. If you don´t agree, discuss what I said, or don´t discuss it.”
To which I ask again:
“And why exactly did you focus on what you disagreed with?”
And while cherry-picking from other people’s post is what we all have to do here, why do you specifically cherry-pick what you can respond negatively to? You even do it within sentences:
“Sure, dude. First you say “sorry, man, I´m drunk”, and then you call me a fucking pussy.”
And I do apologize for calling you a “pussy”. But then you basically engaged in the cheap tactic (cheaper than the “victim” approach (of focusing on the straw man validated by common doxa: both in your reference to my drinking and the fact that you conveniently left out the whole sentence:
“You whine like a fucking pussy with a lot of appeals to common doxa.”
And believe me, I’ve seen a thousand guys (and they are invariably guys (try to pull the same shit as you. But with you it gets especially noxious and contradictory given the main topic at hand here: Deleuze. At one point you say:
“What the fuck? You quoted me in your post, remember? To indicate your disagreement with that quote. So, I responded to that, with my own reading of the situation. That´s “trying to win”? No, that´s debating, giving arguments. Grow up, dude.”
First of all, why exactly do people engage in debates or give arguments if not to win? To basically establish authority and power over the other? But even more contradictory here is that we are talking about Deleuze who, with Guattari, pointed out in What is Philosophy that philosophy has no interest in debates because it has better things to do. As you rightly said:
“It´s not a contest….”
Your right, it’s not. Then why are you acting like it is? Why was it so important to you to invalidate Rorty by completely detaching him from Deleuze’s agenda? I mean I’m perfectly aware that their styles are completely different. But I still argue there is an overlap in the purposes they serve: a desire to break from the classicist criteria that dominated our culture up to the 20th century. I think you are turning Deleuze (and the radical (into some kind of cult. You say, for instance:
“No basement Overmen, just two examples of purely and effective radical new social assemblages: 1) Zapatism, in Chiapas (20 years; more than 3 million people in a radically new type of society), and 2) Rojava, Syria´s Kurdistan: democratic autonomy and confederalism in a creative social approach in the Middle East (and in the Middle of a war with ISIS, the Turkish State, the Syrian State and Western powers), and with support of nearly 40 million kurds.”
First of all, how much effect did the radical etherspeak of Deleuze have on these events? And how do we go from the radical working in what were likely extreme situations to assuming that that the radical is the only response to less extreme ones?
I just think you are taking what is basically a creative pastime way too seriously, Juan. And you are going against a concept embraced by Deleuze and Guattari: the philosopher’s toolbox. To me, philosophical systems are just tools with which we engage with reality. And if you don’t find the tool of Rorty or Pragmatism useful, more power to you, brother. We all gotta find our flow.