I thought one of the primary requirements of debating is to keep a cool head. Once You bring emotion and ego into it the rationales get skewed.
That hasn’t been my impression of Carleas so far… I e-mailed him to undo the ban and he’s been perfectly polite. He thinks that while the topics of debate may be interesting (he suggested it), there’s not enough room in debate forum to actually sink our teeth into these topics. He wanted to debate me on the phrase I have in my signature about conspicuous consumption, and then I offered to raise the stakes by including that debate within the larger debate that I’m the first person who earned the right to live on earth =) Either way, he thinks it might take too much space for us to barely touch upon these topics in the context of the debate chamber.
Everyone knows that women are money grubbers who get wet at the sight of green paper and conspicuous consumption. That’s not the debate. The debate that its childish to believe that you can get the entire worlds male population to change their sexual behavoirs. You said through brainwashing them on TV? Good luck with that, the modern agenda is brainwashing them in opposite direction, I believe it’s called female empowerment (empowerment of women to rob men blind and not feel bad about it.) Also this current agenda seems to want to reduce the amount of male flirting (which is part of your plan) but theres a catch, they also want to turn women into asexual man-fearing lesbians (not part of your plan.) My guess is that this is a damage control for getting stupid people to stop reproducing, however said methods of brainwashing actually are not comprehended by the lower end of the populace, which continue to reproduce like rabbits. Essentially their methods castrate the middle class and do nothing to curb the population rates of the stupid people.
Also your second argument defeats itself. You said men not getting laid enough is the cause of the world’s problems. Then you said the 1% get laid all the time. But the 1% are also the cause of most of the world’s problems.
Your argument defeats itself.
I don’t know why you’re trying to debate this with me here… but sexual stratification causes problems, and the distribution of motivational systems in particular ways causes problems… none of which this “argument defeats itself” addressed. Anyways, we’ll see what Carleas has to say… we may be able to find a narrow enough topic to debate if he’s still interested, he did offer after all.
I’ve found him extremely congenial in my exchange with him while I was banned, and also pretty sharp.
I didn’t say that he isn’t polite and corgial, on the contrary. I said that you will never, ever be allowed to “win” any debate, regardless of topic, with him. I know from years of experience wherein I had to give up being nice and just nail him without mercy … and even then, he merely went away, never admitting defeat (banned by emotion).
Don’t get me wrong. I like Carleas for other reasons. I support his efforts. But “debate him” - “WTFF?”
Yeah… he did mention that he never loses debates with a bit of a smirk in his writing.
I seem to recall you owing me a response on the Blue Eye Problem… :-"
Memory of convenience on your part. 
The resultant issue was that I asked you a simple critical question at least twenty times. And in every case, you just dodged, refusing to answer it. We went to private so as to not make everyone else have to watch us bantering back and forth with the exact same question over and over. At one point, I had even listed the number of times I had already asked it. In private that number doubled. 
You were very guilty of contempt of court.
Fortunately for you there was no court judge involved.
Of course it causes problems, that’s common knowledge. Your argument was that it was the source of all problems, and fixing it would save the world. A ridiculous assertion, seen as how fixing it would not change the attitudes of the 1 percent, the retards who run things.
You’re really going to argue that if you change motivational systems it won’t fix all our problems? You are neither great nor wise. Oh, and you didn’t create this species either, and to quote you in the other thread… you’re the internet scourge, not me.
Wow are you really this retarded, or just kidding around? No, it won’t, because the 1 percent get all the sex and wealth they want and they still cause problems for everyone else. The system needs to be changed, but simply changing mating habits won’t be enough. Human DNA needs to be changed, not just “motivational systems” which is an incredibly vague and undefined term by the way. Scourge is like the final boss of the game by the way you are only a small mini boss.
Umm… actually changing the mating habits would be enough, but my phrase was motivational systems in general. I see you’re still trolling.
Oh right, now I remember now how I refused to answer.
Funny how memory works. It’s like the retrospective version of motivated reasoning.
No it wouldn’t, why would changing any species mating habits affect every other part of their behavoir? Would a lion stop killing if he had a mate? No, that’s ridiculous. Mating isn’t the keystone to all behavoirs. There’s other keystones, like food, shelter, combat and social instincts.
I’m talking about inter-species violence. If lions weren’t sexually stratified, they wouldn’t fight each other for mates and eat their young. This is like debating a child. This also isn’t the right place to have this discussion.
This thread sucks.
But thank you to Carleas for judging the debate fairly, and you’re welcome to Ecmandu for only banning you for two weeks instead of permanently like we agreed.
How do you plan on de-stratifying lions without changing their DnA? Politely tell it to stop fucking? Same deal with humans. You can’t change it’s mating habits by teaching it not to do things. This is like arguing with a retard. Second I am fairly sure there are species that aren’t stratified who commit interspecies violence, I can’t think of any offhand though. Second it selfish to only worry about the wellbeing of your own species, that mentality is half the reason the world is in such a retarded shape anyway. Species solidarity=tribe=tribe mentality=retardedcy=war=rooting for team spirit at the pub=idiocy=genocide=religion
And you keep replying… sigh you’re the one who said you created us to not be able to digest the lipids in grass… yet you complain that we eat animals, at least we don’t eat them alive.
I never said that speech was necessarily the mode, I said that if you change the motivational system, you can end this phenomenon. If you act in accordance with proper motivational systems you can contribute to ending this phenomenon.
I am not God I am the DEviL i did a complete mockery of him I hate him he is a filthy worthless entity who does not deserve to exist. I hate his species too, but I blame him for everything he simply punishes good people as some sort of devine "test’ and rewards the wicked which he expects me to “save” and to judge favorably. I revoke all credit for this idiotic creation/system of his only a complete retard could design a world system this utterly devoid of anything fair or rational I am pure hatred. Hatred is an emotion that’s common, the easiest way to obtain it is just be a good person and do everything right and God will punish you for his own amusement and “science” experiments. The lesson we can learn from Job is that you obey and love God so he can punish you more
THere is no “motivational system” you can change so easily the devine “code” is embedded in all species through DNA and it’s the only method to change such inate behavoirs as mating preferences and habits. It’s simple code, of this “game” of his. Not so easy to “glitch” and do workarounds, the humas already tested primitive methods on homosexuals to no effect (the only method to change homosexuals is testosterone manipulation.) Humans are so primitive it’s ridiculous. I would have assumed they would have figured this out 100 years ago, there seems to be a disconnect between rational men and the men who run things.