Ecmandu's No Fool

I noticed that as well and am a bit still curious about that.

They both proved to be fools.
I would be tempted to restrict them both to the Sandbox for a year.

You’re even worse, James, so should it be 5 years for you?
I’m no saint either, might as well give me a year as well.

Eh, don’t give James a hard time. I disagreed with him about something a month ago, so he has to say stuff like that.

No, you made a fool of yourself a month ago, to my serious surprise. I had no intention to push you to such a breaking point. Your fall was a bit unexpected. Now I have to far more carefully wonder of your motives. And in this regard, what is going on between you and Ecmandu, because his accusation of you stalking or hounding him was right. I saw it even before he did.

I usually back out of debates when I see that I have caused someone to lie or otherwise do himself too much damage (in your case, both lie and become what could justly be dubbed an “outraged fucking retard”). Although it makes me appear as the fool losing a debate, the reality is that it dis-sways further harm to the other person. That has been my, somewhat un-noted, earmark for decades.

Whether I am worse or not, doesn’t change the reality.

Ecmandu, did you hack James’ account?

I was being more nice to you than you realize. I suggest you not push it.

Why, you gonna say more mean words to me on teh interwebs?

The way I remember it, you and I disagreed about the nature of circularity and the role of definitions in a deductive argument. Most normal people wouldn’t spin that into a ‘fall from grace’ narrative with themselves in the role of ‘grace’.

Just sayin.

You actually say “interwebs”?!?!

I have to admit to a degree of mis-perception and blindness.
I thought more of you.

Um, ok. I was honestly unaware there was any sort of ‘concerned with your opinion of me’ type of relationship between you and I. You’re making things awkward.

Well perhaps forgive me, but I thought that there already had become an “awkwardness”. You telling me to go “FUCK OFF!!! regardless of any thread or subject”, kind of relayed the idea that you were … ummm… already “awkward”.

Completely reverse effect here. Uccisore keeps growing on me.

Growing on me babeh.

Please don’t tell me all this fuss is about that thing with apples and quantity some weeks or months ago? I thought it was just another disagreement on forums, certainly not something that would provoke such an ‘us and them’ attitude, which I thought you despised, James?

For someone who despises it, he does seem to seek out quite often.

I am like a soft, luxurious mold in that respect.

I only half-get the James thing. We disagreed about some academic matter, he got weirdly angry about it, and start following me around for a while. I don’t know him well enough to get the context.

Gyahd … again, just making up lies. I hadn’t thought of you as that kind of guy … until… I saw you get embarrassed.

Bullshit.

Quite the contrary (of course). It began when Ec stated that he would accept my judgement regarding your argument concerning deductive arguments. Despite your very un-moderator-like constant harassing and ad homs at Ec (calling him a moron on many occasions), I assessed it in your favor and explained why.

Later you made another statement that no sound argument can be made concerning concrete objects. That one I debated with you directly. In that short debate I showed that your assertion was necessarily incorrect at which point, you apparently got embarrassed enough to start making the very same kind of moron statements that you had accused of Ec and when that wasn’t enough, you just started flat out lying. I pointed out your lie and explained why it was a lie (you already knew it to be a lie). And at that point, you went ape-shit with this;

The only sign of anger at all came strictly from you;

After more name-calling incidences from you, as far as I was concerned the debate ended with this;

After which you tried to make a few excuses for yourself and I just walked away from it.

It’s too soon James, I’m just not looking for this kind of relationship right now.

Actually, you’re wrong James. Scientific induction isn’t the same as logical induction (which is generalizing specifics). Scientific induction is making general conclusions from particular examples.
Science doesn’t claim deductive certainty, nor do you have to be deductively certain in causal relationships to notice them and point them out.

But yea, I agree that’s very un-moderator-like behavior by Uccisore, though I assume it was after being frustrated with Ecmandu, still, that’s not much of an excuse. Then again, I personally don’t care about such trivial insults.

Oh, I was just trying to be in the spirit of the Rant House where the conversation happened. Did James not mention that part?  He stepped into an Ecmandu thread that he apparently hadn't read very attentively (and who can blame him) to say I was wrong about a bunch of stuff. We had a couple exchanges, sort of like yours above where you explain to him what induction is, and instead of him disagreeing with me like a normal person and maybe citing something, he starts calling me - literally- a liar and a moron. So I told him to fuck off as quoted above.  He followed me around for a little while, posting trash in threads I was active in, then he seemed to get tired of it. Figured that was that.

“Scientific induction” doesn’t have anything to do with anything. Couldn’t you find something real to dispute?

The argument was about whether there could exist any sound DEDUCTIVE argument concerning “concrete” objects.

And there you go lying again.
What the hell is the matter with you, son.

Pointing out a lie and explaining why it is a lie, is NOT “calling someone a liar”. Is that too much for your intellectual capacity to handle … making me wonder if I should have really called you a moron.

You certainly seem to have fallen into inventing excuses for your poor behavior.

I suspect you argued with PK for too long. Academic debating is very different than political debating.
… and it is a bit disturbing that you are looking for a relationship. :confused: