James S Saint wrote:Ierrellus wrote:What would it take to reform the churches? You can't just be rid of an opiate without replacing it with something more powerful.
Well, please realize that I am a little complicated from your perspective, although simple in the long run.
My solution for;
Philosophy (and thus all thought) is RM - Rational Metaphysics
Physics (and thus all physical interaction) is AO - Affectance Ontology
Psychology (and thus all human behavior) is PHTMOT - Perception of Hopes and Threat, Memory, Ontology, and Time,
Sociology (an thus all governance and religion) is SAM - Social Anentropic Molecularisation,
Economics (and thus all money and trade issues) is IJOT DJ - Integral of Joy Over Time and a Dairy of Joy.
I instilled SAM into a church once a few years back, unfortunately the church was already on the edge of bankruptcy and didn't really have a good leadership sufficient for a good SAM prototype. But in the short time it had, it resolved every problem they presented to it. From their perspective, it worked "miracles" by resolving what they worried about most (they just didn't know what problems they had to worry about most - yet).
SAM is very patient and tolerant. It doesn't care who or what you worship as long as you do it properly (meaning in the SAM way). In the long run you will learn. SAM removes deception from the mind and world of Man - through time. But until you can witness a good prototype, it takes too much explanation to feel confident about it. Once witnessed, it is pretty simple and easily empirical.
Arminius wrote:First you do not have enough money, because you have plenty of time, then you have not enough time to prevent being destroyed by the rulers.
Arminius wrote:I live quite independently of money. It's not merely me or you, but we all or almost all - about 99% (!) - I primarily meant.
Arminius wrote:Due to the fact that the money economy, also known as monetarism or finance, is too much in line with energetic resources we would have a very much better economy, if it were more in line with knowledge, wisdom, information than with energetic resources.
Another point is the relation of production and reproduction. All fertility rates have to be almost equal, and after that (not before and during that) the rich and the poor will also become more equal, not equal - because that is impossible -, but relaitively equal. That is a fair deal. Else the result will be: Stone Age or even extinction!
But the more the machines are successful the more the human beings are threatened with extinction.
So we have three great modern human erros or mistakes: 1.) the disproportionate and thus wrong/false input of machines; 2.) the disproportionate and thus wrong/false demographic policy (population policy); 3.) the disproportionate and thus wrong/false concentration on energetic resources (instead of knowledge, wisdom, information) by the money economy.
Hyperbolism, hedonism, utilitarianism, individualism and all the other nihilisms are those problems, which became as much bigger as the attempt to control them in order to prevent chaos, anarchy, and - last but not least - overthrow, downfall. It's a vicious circle.
So a solution of the three great modern human erros or mistakes seems to be impossible: 1.) the disproportionate and thus wrong/false input of machines; 2.) the disproportionate and thus wrong/false demographic policy (population policy); 3.) the disproportionate and thus wrong/false concentration on energetic resources (instead of knowledge, wisdom, information) by the money economy.
No one wants to take responsibility!
Do you have any suggestion?
Kriswest wrote:James S Saint wrote:Kriswest wrote:Ok so James, how do you suggest stopping it?
I had to think on that for a while. It isn't a trivial issue.
In Sight of SAM.
You are right it is not trivial.
SAM is a good proposal. I work for a company that is slightly like that. You work for the whole, the owners will pay you well and help when you need it. They see the company as a family of sorts.
I see the goal but, not a clear path. I do know it must be grassroots method.
Arminius wrote:Do you intend to form a SAM corporation? Or have you already formed any?
James S Saint wrote:I instilled SAM into a church once a few years back, unfortunately the church was already on the edge of bankruptcy and didn't really have a good leadership sufficient for a good SAM prototype. But in the short time it had, it resolved every problem they presented to it. From their perspective, it worked "miracles" by resolving what they worried about most (they just didn't know what problems they had to worry about most - yet).
Arminius wrote:I think that currently the SAM corporations can "survive" only in the shadow of globalism, of the Glozis because they are to powerful. As long as Sam corporations do not cause problems to Glozis they are tolerated, otherwise destroyed.
James S Saint wrote:Actually the Greeks with their "city-states" and Moses with his regional Pharisees, had the right general idea, but lacked precision and required too many people. Technology resolved both of those concerns and allows for the freedom of the city-state method by using extremely small "cities", SAM Corporations.
Jesus had everything right but didn't mention the issue of momentum (too much quite peace void of the necessary momentous harmony). The Catholics then compounded that concern by trying to establish single a world order, the "Holy Roman Empire" - went the wrong direction, just as the Globzis of today.
Man keeps trying to bring it ALL under one rule, not understanding that the only "supreme ruler" has to be Reality itself and that requires what we call "localized democracy and culture".
Arminius wrote:What is tried again and again, is to be powerful, to be the most powerful. They need all people in order to rule, to control them, and therefor they have to split, to divide them. That seems to be a paradox, but it happens due is to an old effective method of ruling: "DIVIDE ET IMPERA".
James S Saint wrote:Arminius wrote:What is tried again and again, is to be powerful, to be the most powerful. They need all people in order to rule, to control them, and therefor they have to split, to divide them. That seems to be a paradox, but it happens due is to an old effective method of ruling: "DIVIDE ET IMPERA".
True and thus it is imperative to form that which cannot be divided, the true "Philosopher's Stone". What I am proposing is that SAM is the closest thing to that stone that homosapian can form, even more so than the original family and "bloodline".
Arminius wrote:For "SAM" the challenge or problem are its enemies, especially the Glozis because they don't want any enemy, rival, competitor. They would not tolerate it, If a "communal particle" like "SAM" had a successful monetary currency or even other successful currencies.
A successful own currency will never be allowed by the Globalists. An autarky will never be allowed by the Globalists. They will never allow an economy that is directed against their econom.
James S Saint wrote:The internal structure of a SAM Corp is designed a little differently than current US corporations also. It is based upon the most natural, fundamental, abstract components of any living organism;
1) Awareness,
2) Understanding,
3) Influence,
and with an added reinforcement component,
4) Stitching.
These could be thought of as departments within the corporation and are analogous to the more commonly known departments of;
1) Research,
2) Analysis,
3) Production,
and
4) Coordinator.
Mithus wrote:James S Saint wrote:The internal structure of a SAM Corp is designed a little differently than current US corporations also. It is based upon the most natural, fundamental, abstract components of any living organism;
1) Awareness,
2) Understanding,
3) Influence,
and with an added reinforcement component,
4) Stitching.
These could be thought of as departments within the corporation and are analogous to the more commonly known departments of;
1) Research,
2) Analysis,
3) Production,
and
4) Coordinator.
And from another thread, the 4 groups in a community:
1) Seers
2) Strategists
3) Doers
4) Overseers
Compared with your signature, where it says:
1) Clarify
2) Verify
3) Instill
4) Reinforce
I can see the relation between the categories
on the first level: ... Clarify/ Awareness/ Research/ Seers
on the second: ... Verify/ Understanding/ Analysis / Strategists
and on the fourth: ... Reinforce/ Stitching/ Coordination/ Overseers
but not on the third level:... Instill/ Influence/ Production/ Doers
I understand 'instill' as 'taking s.th. in', 'internalize s.th.', 'memorizing'. How does this relate to the Production-department and the Doers. So my question is about the word 'instill'. How do you define it?
Another question is about 'stitching' as a means of reinforcement. What exactly do you mean by that?
James S Saint wrote:The end result is that across the world, any and every abstract question gets resolved and distributed across the world overnight. And as each resolve is understood by each corp., if the resolve is applicable to their group, it is immediately incorporated (although ideas are communistic, the use of them is strictly democratic).
James S Saint wrote:Thus the greatest intelligence of Man, rather than the least common denominator, becomes the functioning authority within Man. Man as a whole quickly and suddenly becomes sane after some 10,000 years of blindness and foolishness.
James S Saint wrote:And SAM is not like anything before it. It has many facets including capitalist endeavors. Each SAM Corp. lives solely for its own sake. Everything it does is entirely and openly for itself. That makes it not only capitalistic, but because its management is via the participation of all members, it is "democratic". It is like a small business with its books on open display.
James S Saint wrote:And it is much like their preaching "true" physics in the face of RM:AO. All they can really do is run and try to hide and hide from their stumbling blocks, such as the Stopped Clock Paradox. Every direct confrontation, they will lose. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what happens in the long run. They will tell their lies. You can count on that. Liars lie. It's just what they do. And although considerate of what they say, neither RM:AO nor SAM is terribly concerned about what they say. SAM isn't a political movement in need of convincing the masses of anything. SAM is not a revolution, but an evolution, a new synthesis and species of non-aggressive corporation to displace the dinosaurs of the past.
James S Saint wrote:The final battle between SAM and the Globzis is the classic battle between the Lord of Light and Lord of Darkness. Man even has a name for it. And they spell out the details of the battle; when to sound which trumpets, how many times, which flags to raise, where to stand, when to advance,... all of that kind of thing. It is a battle concerning thought and behavior, "spirit", not swords and bombs. And every type of deception is expected on the field ... handled and thwarted. Its complicated to explain.
Darkness and ignorance cannot reign over Man forever. So you can guess who wins. The only question is who will still be around. The sooner it starts, the fewer people will be murdered in the name of Globulism. But everything has its time and place.
Although whatever happens will happen in its own time, the effort of life is to always be one step ahead of the future and ever-cognizant of the past.
Arminius wrote:James S Saint wrote:And SAM is not like anything before it. It has many facets including capitalist endeavors. Each SAM Corp. lives solely for its own sake. Everything it does is entirely and openly for itself. That makes it not only capitalistic, but because its management is via the participation of all members, it is "democratic". It is like a small business with its books on open display.
Does it have to be "democratic"? And if so: why?
You know that even SAM can merely be successful and more than ever democratically successful, if it remains a small common or corporation. But more than other forms of government democracy is prone to corruption. That is - b.t.w. - the reason why democracy has a shorter duration than other forms of government. But anyway: if this small commons or corporations do not grow in the long run, then they will have a chance. And this chance would grow, if each common or corporation would be more like a (for example!) city state, thus more like a republican aristocracy. I don't say this because of my own social and political belief or opinion, but because of the logic of "SAM".
Arminius wrote:James S Saint wrote:And it is much like their preaching "true" physics in the face of RM:AO. All they can really do is run and try to hide and hide from their stumbling blocks, such as the Stopped Clock Paradox. Every direct confrontation, they will lose. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what happens in the long run. They will tell their lies. You can count on that. Liars lie. It's just what they do. And although considerate of what they say, neither RM:AO nor SAM is terribly concerned about what they say. SAM isn't a political movement in need of convincing the masses of anything. SAM is not a revolution, but an evolution, a new synthesis and species of non-aggressive corporation to displace the dinosaurs of the past.
But you want to be successful in the long run.
Arminius wrote:The forms of history repeat. In other words: The time of "SAM" is going to come!
James S Saint wrote:Understand the difference between being a democratic group and being a part of a democratic larger nation/state/body.
James S Saint wrote:SAM corps are an element within a somewhat democratic/capitalistic ....
James S Saint wrote:Similarly, you might live in a democratic, capitalistic, socialistic, or communistic country, but that doesn't mean that internal to yourself, you are any of those.
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