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Fixed Cross wrote:Faith, balls of steel or tragic joy are all forms of threatened innocence.
Growing up. Dealing with life. The philosopher does not grow up though, and he does not deal with life - he retains the sincerity of play and keeps access to the power to value absolutely while considering other perspectives.
Amorphos wrote:Obe. Sure, well I understand its your culture which naturally I don't have a problem with, however...!
your nation was built that way for sure, but how much is it really like it now?
More to the point at hand; 'the act becomes real' ~ is that really true? I have believed in it somewhat for as long as I can remember. Yet isn't it key to what and who we are as humans, that it isnt true, that from birth we act like how we think to, and we even think in a manner of an act. We are subjective [because spiritual] beings, and cannot [?] become our roles, not entirely, how can we if we are our own puppets and all we do is mimic how we assume the world wants us to act!
Every thought is an act, we read things >then< act accordingly. All we really got going on in here is that, the rest is brain function i.e. not who we truly are. We constantly watch thoughts go by in our heads, always the observer, always the actor, never the reality.
In a sense that is our greatest freedom. Albeit mostly delusion build upon the foundation of illusion.
Amorphos wrote:james. although i like the usa, i have to say that i dont like all that bullshit we see endlessly in films and shows. i understand the beginnings - where one lived survival, and freedom was something hard faught for, but hey, who's the roman empire now [like the british were in the days of washington [whom i am a fan of].
its the reason why you all appear to have guns galore - to survive? well if someone managed to overpower the army, they wouldnt have any problem with the armed masses. in fact that would make it worse, an enemy would have to do drastic things to a given state , such to show who's in charge.
'growing up' is questionable, in my experience it means being like all those numpties who think they are hardmen, or those who dont but are 'responsible' little breaders and such. its all 'the system' to me and i dont want to be an adult if [it does] it meens being a control freak.
why does everyone have to 'win' these days, when people say they are winners they just look so stupid, what are you going to win against [death? become a god?]???
i think it would be best if noone tried to win. isn't that the true meaning of childishness?
Dan~ wrote:Strength is one of the most minor qualities when compared to virtue.
I'd rather have 1 kind weak person than 10 strong bad people.
Strength directly equates to destruction when in the wrong hands.
Also, strength is generally not that strong. So what if someone can lift 100 pounds? Look how many pounds the sun and earth are. 100 pounds is nothing, and will remain nothing forever.
"what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" - does it?
Magnus Anderson wrote:"what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" - does it?
It's true, but only for the strong i.e. if you have that kind of body which can take a lot of damage and end up profiting from it.
obe wrote:Fixed Cross wrote:Faith, balls of steel or tragic joy are all forms of threatened innocence.
Growing up. Dealing with life. The philosopher does not grow up though, and he does not deal with life - he retains the sincerity of play and keeps access to the power to value absolutely while considering other perspectives.
The philosopher does not grow up? He better, if not he is not really a philosopher.
Blurry wrote:Strength is not merely a physical attribute.
Stuart wrote:"What doesn't kill you makes you stranger." - LaughingMan
Camus wrote:Nietzsche: "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger."
Yes, but....
obe wrote:Fixed Cross wrote:Faith, balls of steel or tragic joy are all forms of threatened innocence.
Growing up. Dealing with life. The philosopher does not grow up though, and he does not deal with life - he retains the sincerity of play and keeps access to the power to value absolutely while considering other perspectives.
The philosopher does not grow up? He better, if not he is not really a philosopher.
Blurry wrote:Does anyone really grow up? If so, when does it happen?
From what I've been able to surmise from talking to people and observing the world, nobody ever really grows up. The things we do change, we go through the motions of being "grown up". We buy houses, we pay bills, we have and take care of children (if that's your thing), but mentally....I dunno. Don't see it.
Do you remember, when you were a child, how you took for granted that the adults around you knew what they were doing and had all the answers? Yeah...when is that supposed to kick in?
Magnus Anderson wrote:Blurry wrote:Strength is not merely a physical attribute.
Is there anything beyond physics?
Amorphos wrote:"what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" - does it?
what doesnt kill you makes you wiser - would be truer imho.
ben wrote:I think it is eloquently fitting that my farewell thread should be so graciously hijacked by such blatant penis waving. It condenses my entire ILP experience into one very manageable metaphor.
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