What should we debate?

I don’t have a political label. So when you say, “so called”, I’m asking, “yeah but only by you”.

It doesn’t matter what decade it is. There’s commerce. You can open an ameritrade account with no minimum deposit. You can panhandle and prostitute yourself. The news is free and you can read it all day if you choose. Then you can use your panhandling money to fund your trading account, and as long as there’s commerce, and price fluctuations, you can make money whether things are going up or down. Current market conditions are that there are a diverse array of investment possibilities such that when one thing goes down something else goes up. Reading that free news can give you clues to when and where these things will happen.

So as long as a person is able to whore themselves, eat from the trash and not spurge 100% of their assets on motels and fast food then they should be able to, with enough hard work to get wherever they want to go. So if they aren’t where they want to be then it’s their fault and no one else’s.

Looks like you’ve got a topic, set some parameters and I’ll create the thread.

You don’t seriously believe that??? If you really do, you are being hideously naive and offensive.

Don’t you think that at least one of the millions in that position would try it and spread the word to the others?

You’re the one that said you voted for Obama. [Obomber, Obimbo, Obozo, ect.]

When I heard that I just assumed flaming liberal politically.

As for me, I don’t vote. I don’t bother messing around with what I know to be rigged systems. There’s no point it. It’s a giant circle jerk.

Although I think the next election I’ll vote just to scratch in something like Mickey Mouse or whatever. I think that I might even go with Lex Luther this time around.

I see…we should all just become day traders sitting around in our boxers on a couch by our laptops eating sandwiches all day waiting for paychecks to come in the mail.

It’s so easy the entire nation could be doing it anytime they wanted to! Why work at all? :sunglasses:

You’re so full of shit.

Obama is actually pretty moderate. He’s just gotta be called liberal because he’s to the left of the other candidate who happens to be a Koch brother’s funded exploiter of the masses his entire life. You’ve probably heard it before about presidential elections…the ol lesser of 2 evils?

You’re too indoctrinated in your victim mentality to realize that you actually can trade and make money. You honestly believe that you have to be a slave because that’s what they want you to believe. It’s just false. I made 9k off 1600 bucks in about 5 months last year with no experience whatsoever using an app on my phone.

You know how I got the 1600 bucks.

So instead of flaming and raging…tell me why someone else can’t do the same? And please…don’t appeal to some moral code about being a good person and not breaking the law. Those are rules that masters write for slaves to follow. They don’t follow them themselves.

I’m such a good person that I can’t steal and exploit and come up in the world because it just wouldn’t be the right thing to do.

That’s what slaves say.

Listening to someone who has managed to make it, accusing literally everyone else of the ability to do the same is getting a bit vile, revolting and vulgar. I can easily imagine some common profanity and deep hatred that it inspires.

So you’ve been reduced to countering me with claims of vulgarity.
I’m calling the match.

Are you a sex-chat guy? Telling gay persons that you want to do naughty things to their bums??

PS. Money is never “made”, all you can do is re-direct it from one pocket to another.

The “match” was over.
I asked if you were actually being sincere vs merely providing the counter argument.
It is sounding like you seriously believe what you said, but I assure you that if you had tried to sell that load to many of the people with whom I am familiar, all of your arsenal of weapons would not have saved you. You think the blacks get upset when called a “niger” by a white man? You just try and find out how bad it can get by peddling that crock of naive guilt-bullshit to the people who have suffered a whole lot more than those blacks. You are expressing the vile sickness and stench that wreaks in modern USA mentality. The whole world knows of it… except people like you, it seems.

If you think that the Jews, blacks, and women get upset, you just go ahead and try to sell your “Let them eat cake” attitude in the USA. If not silenced from above by your own masters, you WILL be voted off the planet, along with more shit than you can imagine, the French revolution not withstanding.

The french revolution would have never gotten off the ground in the modern US. That’s because we’re a better country that actually lets people compete and get rewarded for the good things they do, instead of being a country that punishes those who generate wealth by handing it all out to the do-nothings.

Yeah well, that’s the kind of thing that they thought too. It’ relativistic bullshit.

People are found dead under bridges every day and to have your weed puffing puck ass telling everyone it is their own fault can earn you a very, very serious consequence. They aren’t creating their high tech armed marshal law machine out of naivety. They know damn well that there is a time bombing ticking in the USA and that once enough of the white boys have been pissed on and pissed off, there isn’t going to be a single authoritarian left on the entire planet, whether politician, banker, Rabbi, Priest, pastor, school teacher, police officer, military officer, Nazi, Zionist, Nobleman, statesman or just someone with a class double standard authoritarian attitude. There won’t be a single country, continent, or even island to hide on. In one cataclysmic moment in human history, Life itself will reclaim the entire planet for the cockroaches, trees, and animals. The “Terminator scenario” will only be the beginning.

You have no fucking clue. But would do well to start here and now.

See, here is the part I don’t understand, James. You have no problem pointing to moral and political conflicts like this “down here”. You make all of these flagrant assertions regarding what you believe to be true about them.

But: how is all of this linked to RM/AO? And then to the Real God?

To me, you sound like one of the Kids here. Huffing and puffing as though only a complete fucking idiot wouldn’t or couldn’t grasp things the way you do.

So, please connect the dots between one of these assertions and, say, “the broad outline”:

  1. Cause them to recognize their highest priority.
    2 ) Relate it to their immediate situation.
  2. Let them decide for themselves upon which course suits them.
  3. Ensure that they really understood.

Bigus, go back to the rant or off topic sections where you belong.

Most people aren’t aware that Moses actually had more than just 10 commandments at first. The “zeroth commandment”:
“Don’t fuck with the desperate.”

Yeah, I’m not interested in a senseless bullshit debate that would already be dead on arrival before it got started.

What else can we debate?

I am literally so in favor of deregulation that I can’t agree to a debate with rules.

I will take this as your concession.

Do nothings like the banksters that your puppet and chief bailed out?

Do you even have a consistent position or beliefs that you defend?

At first you came off as a neoliberal where now you’re switching tactics trying to come off as a state crony capitalist. WTF?

At least have some consistency for fuck’s sake.

I’m a real-worldist. That means that I probably seem as inconsistent to you as the real world does. Or something like that. Everyone has a position. Best way to defend it is to force the other person to have to extrapolate it from a random set of behaviors and things one might say. Once you figure it out, then you can challenge it, then you can maybe defeat or alter it in some way. But the fact remains that no one’s given any argument here to show that what I’ve said about the poor is false. And I’ve presented evidence that it’s their fault. So as it stands, in this debate at least it’s the poor people’s fault that they’re poor.

Also…“my president in chief”? You’re reaching with that one. I’m not all that into politics. I voted for the guy because the healthcare act would bring in subsidies that substantially reduce my student loan burden over time. It’s just economics man. Same reason that’s good for me, is the same reason that it’s good for a homeless person to whore themselves, panhandle, stop spending money on hotels and all until they have enough capital to get into the game. Shit man, you could probably pass a bad check for a few grand and by the time they run you down plead it out and pay the money back and court costs, and if you were wise enough with the windfall then you’d still be able to turn a profit or at least stay ahead.

You can’t expect hard working people to just give you a life instead of saving for their children’s college so that you can waste time discovering yourself or thinking about philosophy or whatever you please. Those people gave up their time so that they could have more, and for you to want to take it instead of earning your own way is to steal thier time, their lives, and their work from them.

I take it then that you won’t actually be responding to the point I raised. Rather, you make me the point instead. In other words, anything to keep RM and the world we actually live in as far removed as possible.

mmm…
There will always be a pecking order within our cuerent paradigm. You are a slave to this paradigm if you think you have achieved anything. It is a pyramid in nature with the heavenly realm at the top and the hell realm at the bottom of the pyeamid. The system functions on the delusion of “you are in control”. We are only in survival mod and not in control.