Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Sympathetic magic is alive and well in fundamentalistic, faith healing Christian churches. Benny Hinn relies on it.

the important jesus message is how to treat other people with kindness…
I am not sure what becoming a rune dancing priestess does for you…

Jesus was not the first to come up with that idea and like all monotheistic religions, it comes with a whole load of authoritarian baggage.

Paganism is all about experiencing the divine, and not about being told what to believe.

you are right about that…cant we have both nature and jesus

Jesus represents monotheism, and is just one of a long line of self-styled prophets telling others what to do. Monotheism is the antithesis of Paganism, the de-sacralising of nature and life.

Jesus was not the first to come up with that idea and like all monotheistic religions, it comes with a whole load of authoritarian baggage.

Paganism is all about experiencing the divine, and not about being told what to believe.
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you are right about that…cant we have both nature and jesus
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Jesus represents monotheism, and is just one of a long line of self-styled prophets telling others what to do. Monotheism is the antithesis of Paganism, the de-sacralising of nature and life.
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but maia -----lets forget jesus…what about the golden rule…

What’s the golden rule?

please see ted talk by Karen Armstrong…

I still cannot see how a type of coping done in the infancy of the human race can be valid now in our adolescence. (The race has not yet approached maturity.) Shouldn’t we move on and put away childish things?

I don’t think this is “childish things”…after church yesterday I find the resurrection of jesus to be a big problem for me…

Resurrection of Jesus has nothing to do with runic (sympathetic) magic. It has to do with aspiring that what we see in the flesh is not the whole picture of reality. Jesus has more to do with hope than with magic. The resurrection could also be of your own renewal. For me the resurrection is proved in jonquils that pop through soil that appeared dead in winter.

duplicate post.

I am sorry ier…you cant have it both ways…the majority opinion in most Christian churches is actual life after death for jesus and for us…

The ways are the same.

here is the problem…you say the pagan ways are childish…I say this Christian way is causing people to stay away from church…the fundies are the majority player and they insist on magical thinking…
I know you can see it both ways but when you call the pagan a child and grow up… I have a problem with those words…

You noted it well. Fundie magical thinking is immature. I think all people will be judged according to their level of spiritual maturity. There are lesser and greater in the kingdom of heaven. However, I think we have digressed somewhat from the OP.

“Who, by thinking, can add one cubit to his stature?”–Jesus. Sympathetic magic is an attempt to outthink the fates.

You noted it well. Fundie magical thinking is immature. I think all people will be judged according to their level of spiritual maturity. There are lesser and greater in the kingdom of heaven. However, I think we have digressed somewhat from the OP.
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we haven’t digressed…the problem at this point is maia is not here now…

we haven’t digressed…the problem at this point is maia is not here now…
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I’m here. The thing is that magic works, so these debates about “spiritual maturity” and so on are really missing the point. They are like trying to disprove the existence of electricity by theology.

I’m here. The thing is that magic works, so these debates about “spiritual maturity” and so on are really missing the point. They are like trying to disprove the existence of electricity by theology.
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maia–I am sorry… I did not write about fundie magical thinking…I am with you and not arguing about what you say…it seems to work for you…it is not immature…many so-called mature people can make awful mistakes…we are all immature…we have no idea about the big questions…can you explain more about your beliefs…some peop[le have trouble just listening to other views…what about the electricity…how does it work…I want to know