are you referring to the human jesus or the divine Christ…
Both are one thing. But I’d say the same about Lao Tse , Buddha, and Confucius (SIC).
Both are one thing. But I’d say the same about Lao Tse , Buddha, and Confucius (SIC).
not really…if you believe in jesus as god …you behave much differently than if you believe jesus was a guy…the bible says two ways…and the bible was written by guys
Ierrellus:Both are one thing. But I’d say the same about Lao Tse , Buddha, and Confucius (SIC).
not really…if you believe in jesus as god …you behave much differently than if you believe jesus was a guy…the bible says two ways…and the bible was written by guys
Not really. It was Jesus the man God who came up with the Sermon on the Mount. It was Confucious who came up with, among others, the Golden Rule. These are not the average philosphies of the man on the street.
turtle: Ierrellus:Both are one thing. But I’d say the same about Lao Tse , Buddha, and Confucius (SIC).
not really…if you believe in jesus as god …you behave much differently than if you believe jesus was a guy…the bible says two ways…and the bible was written by guys
Not really. It was Jesus the man God who came up with the Sermon on the Mount. It was Confucious who came up with, among others, the Golden Rule. These are not the average philosphies of the man on the street.
ier–it involves choice…which jesus do you follow
Ierrellus:Both are one thing. But I’d say the same about Lao Tse , Buddha, and Confucius (SIC).
not really…if you believe in jesus as god …you behave much differently than if you believe jesus was a guy…the bible says two ways…and the bible was written by guys
Well, maybe you can separate the two, but if you hold them both as one, as both human and divine, I would say that that would be a mighty beacon to be guided by. Here you have your god and here you have a human, who was just as human as you. The human part one can identify with more being that you are human more so than the divine part.
For those who do believe.
turtle: Ierrellus:Both are one thing. But I’d say the same about Lao Tse , Buddha, and Confucius (SIC).
not really…if you believe in jesus as god …you behave much differently than if you believe jesus was a guy…the bible says two ways…and the bible was written by guys
Well, maybe you can separate the two, but if you hold them both as one, as both human and divine, I would say that that would be a mighty beacon to be guided by. Here you have your god and here you have a human, who was just as human as you. The human part one can identify with more being that you are human more so than the divine part.
For those who do believe.
I didn’t separate the two…they did that at the council of nicea in 325 ad…the split is still in the church…I see it in my church with my own little turtle eyes…
Mary keep an eye out on your son, he’s a wild one!
That was my favorite part of all.
At first, I wondered if the Op was pure sarcasm. Maybe not. Forgive me, but I’m slow. I think best of religious leaders, East and West, have concluded that God is a way, not a person.
The way of all nature, perhaps.
Jesus never said, “worship me”; he said “follow me.”
“God became as we are so that we could become as God is.”
At first, I wondered if the Op was pure sarcasm. Maybe not. Forgive me, but I’m slow. I think best of religious leaders, East and West, have concluded that God is a way, not a person.
And what is a person if not a way?
we don’t know anything about gods…it is all belief
Reality definitely has a personality.
To tell ancient people and their offspring to not refer to it as a “person” is pushing one’s authority.
we don’t know anything about gods…it is all belief
That is only partially true.
There were and are also some indivisuals, to whom it was/is not a matter of mere belief, but hard personal evidence.
This minority was considerd as an authority in the past. That is from where other gather their belief.
Having said that, still there is a possibility of the presence of some cons there in that elite group.
It is up to an individual to discern and choose.
with love,
sanjay
turtle:we don’t know anything about gods…it is all belief
That is only partially true.
There were and are also some indivisuals, to whom it was/is not a matter of mere belief, but hard personal evidence.
This minority was considerd as an authority in the past. That is from where other gather their belief.
Having said that, still there is a possibility of the presence of some cons there in that elite group.It is up to an individual to discern and choose.
with love,
sanjay
sanjay—can you say more about the “hard personal evidence”…are you talking about facts or science or what…thanks from harry
sanjay—can you say more about the “hard personal evidence”…are you talking about facts or science or what…
One suspects s/he is talking about personal anecdotes. The kind where someone is convinced they had a particular experience but does not have the “hard evidence” to convince everyone else.
zinnat13: turtle:we don’t know anything about gods…it is all belief
That is only partially true.
There were and are also some indivisuals, to whom it was/is not a matter of mere belief, but hard personal evidence.
This minority was considerd as an authority in the past. That is from where other gather their belief.
Having said that, still there is a possibility of the presence of some cons there in that elite group.It is up to an individual to discern and choose.
with love,
sanjaysanjay—can you say more about the “hard personal evidence”…are you talking about facts or science or what…thanks from harry
Turtle,
The assumption of lambiguopus is more or less right, except of the term anecdotes.
Those may be stories to else, but not for me. at least.
It is a long post so i am providing a link below-
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=181854#p2376825
Go through it. Now, suppose just for the sake of an argument that i am not lying, what should i believe; what others say or what i personally experienced?
with love,
sanjay
Mary keep an eye out on your son, he’s a wild one!
That was my favorite part of all.
Mine too. Jesus’ ownests favourite too, too. He tole.
“God became as we are so that we could become as God is.”
What is that “IS”, Ierrellus, that we were meant to become?
Yeah. Are you saying this was all planned, by god?
Are we like god, now?
Hm.
Not sure if that is such a good thing.