Shakespeare digression

Anyone who attacks the Bard is not on my side. But more to the point, attacking WS has no relevance to the thread.

oh ā€¦
before I forgetā€¦

:slight_smile:

:slight_smile: My point Hobbes is that the average person will fall asleep trying to sort his words out. Chaucerā€™s Canterbury tales in its original language, gave 3/4 of my classmates blearyeyed syndrome. Shakespeare caused alot of absence s :slight_smile: Art is perspective. Cartoons can be art.

Dear Helandhighwater,

I also experienced this behaviour with Hobbes Choice. It was a moment when there was criticisms against Margaret Thatcher, Hobbes Choice would criticize her, but he would not allow me to criticize her. If I criticized Margaret Thatcher he would defend her.

It is a very demanding task to understand Hobbes Choice at times.

By the way Hobbes, you mentioned that Shakespeare could not have been aware of Cervantes work because of the dates when works were translated, and then when I proved you wrong, you have kept quiet. May I have an apology, please :smiley:

Well you asked a question - I answered it.
I love WS, and have been to the Globe Theatre 3 times now. It is utterly brilliant! Hats off to Sam Wanamaker for helping make it happen.

I agree that a majority of school kids find it difficult.
As a teacher Iā€™ve found ways to present it so that they can find it more accessible - usually by offering them a dumbed down text or getting them to act it out.
Chaucer is a whole lot more tricky, but can be made accessible in the same way.

So you de-rail the thread with a personal attack then you want an apology??
Are you kidding?

  1. Yes, I missed your reply about the date of the death of WS. He could have read Cervantes, no that does not prove that he was Cervantes, or that Cervantes wrote all of WS works, or any of them, or that WS wrote Cervantes. In fact it does not prove anything except thisā€¦
    Iā€™ll tell you what it proves. WS might have read Don Quixote..
  2. On the matter of Thatcher - I was not attacking you for attacking her. I was attacking the bollocks you were talking about her. If you want to criticise a person you should attack the truth and not make up nonsense that is not true. It just reflects badly on you.
    You should thank me for putting you right.

Alright I thank you for enlightening me :blush:

Thanks accepted.

Iā€™m glad to see this all worked out.

My sarcastometer just broke but I am sure it all works out in the end.

Letā€™s just say we all thank Hobbes for being the new Jesus and leave it at that.

Although I am not so sure Jesus ever sent PMs saying re: hey shit for brains! and are re: are you out of control. I think he was a little more phlegmatic in his approach to enlightening the human condition. :laughing:

And no I am not going to report him for it, I really donā€™t care enough, it just puts some context on this weird disagreement.

At least your students get a taste Hats off to you for that. If given the full dose of WS. too many would lose out.
It is sad that it must be so. In 6 or more decades will the real works be only for historians? I hope not. The art would be lost.

I love your sarcastometer, may I borrow it? I am intrigued by these PMs, what are they about?

PM means private message. Thatā€™s all.
Access messages from 'user control panel" above.

Yes I am aware that PM is a direct message sent from one user to another. What I am intrigued is how Jesus is sending messages and the context of the messages. I am assuming here that Jesus refers to Jesus of Nazareth.

Jesus refers to Hobbes Choice

:slight_smile: * giggle*

Nothing important. I wouldnā€™t trouble yourself. :slight_smile:

And itā€™s not my meme, you of course are welcome to it. :slight_smile:

What are you talking about?

Although a certain amount of tangential discourse and banter is allowed in MB, the same ILP rules apply here as they do on the formal boardsā€¦ you have all been warned.

There are few persons from the Elizabethan era that we know so much about as Shakespeare, and for sure WS has more written about him, and there is more of a paper trail of Ws that any other literary figure of his time.
There is no positive evidence for the attribution of any of his works for another author.

Was this also a forgery?

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