the thread is about men and women getting along…and equal opportunities and rights for all…
Not nessecarily, he said that everything would go down the drain, or something like that, that would refer to society and our development, from mudhuts to skyscrapers in metaphorically terms.
that is ok to talk about but that isnt what the original post presented…
Then the OP was unclear and easily could be misinterpeted.
what is unclear about this op
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You should be more careful about what you write, what you write has no logical meaning, and in itself is totaly nonsens and babble. Athenians back in classical Greece locked up women as house slaves, only time they went out, was to the market, they did fine.
You seem total oblivious to simple historical facts, there are before western modern women got voting rights, we had industrial revolution, we did fine, therefore a rational interpetation of OP would only result in what I wrote, else I should conform with this nonsens and write some total babble.
common ground on what? what are the “problems” that need to be solved?
“recognized” by who? is your self esteem totally dependent on the recognition of the other?. Oh dear, a little peak of the naive romantic idealist. who grant these “rights”? god?
we already have. but not for the reasons you stated.
Indeed… “turtle” is the perfect specimen of a naive sheltered idealist. Feminism is just a symptom of modernity. The system enforces a strict code of social behavior to support the illusion of parity between the genders.
Can feminism be traced back to natural phenomena or is it a total disconnect with nature, a logical outcome of sheltering social systems which usurp natural balances, annihilating them, and replacing them with human constructs concerning justice, fairness, equality, utopian paradises?
we need a woman president…
Why? does it make you horny ?
I just wanna know, Are you a woman? Even if you have male genitals, your thinking, attitude, essence is quintessentially female.
Tragicly very true! 
What the hell’s with you guys??? A man couldn’t possibly want equality between the sexes? If you want a woman president, you have to be a woman? Like every man in America would be predisposed to vote against Hillary because of their Y chromosome? If Hillary were running for president, and I were an American, I’d vote for her–just for the fuck of it!
They did fine?!?! Try asking them that.
You guys say this shit to women when you’re trying to pick them up?
People pick their presidents based on sexiness? Is this how you have voted? Did you want to have sex with the last person you voted for? or rooted against the least?
I know a good forum for you…
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yeah, remember all those pre-modern (is it European?) societies that didn’t have strict codes of social behavior. Men and women could do as they pleased.
What nation today where this is the rule is doing well and you would like to live there?
And obviously some of them were not doing fine.
Greece had slaves.
Or perhaps it would bother you if I point out that homosexuality between older men and younger men, even boys, was also quite accepted even venerated in parts of Greece.
Does this mean we should adopt slavery again and pederasty?
Instead of spewing random stuff out, please try do as philosophers should, and argue through logic and reason, not like a puerile kid with non argumentative 1 liners.
You first.
yes, and ?.. The slaves were treated as valuable members of the household, even raised into positions of distinction such as teachers or household maids. They had no problem with slavery.They we’rent infected with the Judeo-Christian virus back then.
Weren’t those lifestyles reserved for a small sect in society? namely the aristocrats?
Getting it up the ass seems to be something you are proud of & may think of it as the pinnacle of human progress. Decadence always results in these displays of decay and the practice of penetration, never practiced, was considered by the Greeks an insult.Those who enjoyed it were referred to as “malakos” or soft. But if you wish to justify your new age lifestyle by finding ancient roots, then look no further than nature, where male to male mock penetration is used to symbolize domination.
Despite things told and written even in universities that homosexuality & pedophilia were not only sanctioned but a normal practice is PROVEN FALSE BY THE ATTIC LAWS. Κιναδος δηλ. ο κινων την αιδω Liddel-Scott τομος ΙΙ σελιδα 719 Κιναιδεια,homosexuality= η παρα φυσιν ασελγεια(animal lust,abuse), Αισχινης 18,29 Δημητριος Φαληρευς 97. Κιναιδευομαι= ειμαι κιναιδος Κιναιδος,homosexual= ο καταπυγων(degenerate,One who has anal sex) , ο καθολα αισχρος (all shameful, dishonorable), κακοηθης ανθρωπος (immoral person)
Slavery is just another method of farming, in this case farming humans. I know you’ve been programmed, and it suits your feeble psyche to think of these as “evil” or “bad”, but they are natural. Every great civilization the world has ever seen is about war, and competition over resources. Humans are a resources too. You must believe in the myth of the noble savage, breeding men who are effeminate peace lovers is a sign of decline.
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You are as simple as they come. Don’t bother responding, put me in your ignore list. Your simplicity is irritating me.
You have a rather romantic vision of how slaves were generally treated. But then, I was posing that question to the other person, who may or may not be so positive about slavery as you are. Perhaps he does not respect any of the countries today that treat women they way he says Greeks did. Perhaps he will not have your reactions. And then also his views of certain kinds of thinking would seem to make him highly critical of cultures that treat women in the way he thinks is fine. I have a sense of his opinions on a number of issues and my response was keyed into that. Imagine. But you seem to think that your reactions to my points relevent, but not the ones I directed at you.
Either you know of knowthyself and you are one of satyr’s little disciples or the man himself or not. Either way it was a right on peg and not remotely an insult. Maybe in your world if you disagree with someone everything you direct at that person from then on is an insult or act of aggression. That was a good faith recommendation. I suspect you are already a member there, but if not you would probably have appreciated the referral. Your loss and limited view of human interactions.