men and women

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can you say more hc

Right. What does?

i think some people here did not read my very short post…now that we are in this sub-forum i will not talk about my churches…
i will talk about the united states…why is it that we have never had a woman president…is this a problem for anyone here…
why are there more men in the senate and supreme court than women…i have a problem with this and i will tell you why…guys tend to be the ones that fight wars…women tend to fight by talking…isnt it time for men and women to cooperate…you cant do that with the one group trying to dominate, whether it is men or women…what happened to cooperate…

I never quite underatood the idea that men and women are supposed to be equal and the same in all areas. Men want to be men and women (most) want to ne women. When a woman wants to be like a man it undermines a man’s identity, and when a man is overly feminine (metrosexual), it undermines a woman’s identity (this is considering that men want to be men in relation to women and vice-versa, which I think still holds true for the majority of population). The hype with gender reversal I think is overblown a bit. These a basic/natural psychological attributes of men and women, and without constant and continuous societal pressure for gender equalization/homogenization, the roles would simply revert back to their natual, balanced state. I also don’t believe the idea that to have men in power would automatically lead to subjugation of women, as if men and women are some kind of enemies. Women take care of men, and men take care of women.

It seems like when a man is overly feminine, by some people’s standards some it is primarily men, not women, who feel like it undermine’s their identity. At least, they seem to take it very personally, like it is a threat that needs to be erased. Women seem more relaxed around this, though, of course, it bothers many of them also.

Why is it that every time the subject comes up, men have to, seemingly, emphasize their superiority by pointing out the physical differences between the genders? Why can’t the differences be seen as complimentary and celebrated as such? I tend to celebrate the physical differences between men and women. If it weren’t for those differences, how could we have survived as a species? Hmmm?

When the subject comes up, men point out the physical differences.
You say you celebrate those physical differences, and yet you’re apparently offended or off-put in some way by the fact that men point out the physical differences.

You’re celebrating it and being offended by it at the same time? I don’t understand what’s going on here.

as usual some things just end in fighting between men and women…can we now agree on something…why do we need to fight…
this thread was intended to find common interest…our whole society is like this----always fighting…

If that’s ‘fighting’ to you…

how about something positive flannel…

proton

Turtle, you can’t just say ‘no disagreements in this thread’, that’s nonsense. If someone disagrees, they can express their disagreement. This is a philosophy forum, not a kumbaya circle.

flannel you make a good point…but i thought this was a sub-forum s/g/e…what does this have to do with philosophy…
the thread was going screwy…arguing about differences…i want to know from you what men and women have in common…
you are good at this…you are clever…i liked the proton thing…but get serious will you…

(a) society/government/economics generally involves even more extreme disagreement than philosophy in general.
(b) presumably, everything.

Lots of things. I’m not sure what sorts of things you’re looking for.
I mean, I could say ‘men and women usually have 2 eyes’ but that’s probably not the sort of similarity you’re looking for.
What sorts of similarities are you looking for?

Turtle, you can’t just say ‘no disagreements in this thread’, that’s nonsense. If someone disagrees, they can express their disagreement. This is a philosophy forum, not a kumbaya circle.
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flannel you make a good point…but i thought this was a sub-forum s/g/e…what does this have to do with philosophy…
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(a) society/government/economics generally involves even more extreme disagreement than philosophy in general.
(b) presumably, everything.

Lots of things. I’m not sure what sorts of things you’re looking for.
I mean, I could say ‘men and women usually have 2 eyes’ but that’s probably not the sort of similarity you’re looking for.
What sorts of similarities are you looking for?
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no no flannel…you are tricky…i am asking you …what you see in common that might be significant…do you have a hard time
sharing personal beliefs…

There’s lots of commonalities between men and women. Men and women both usually don’t want to be harmed, insulted, uncomfortable, lots of things. What do you think is significant? You tell me.

no flannel…this is my thread and i am asking the questions…i need input…i will say something later…i want to see
how perceptive this thread is going to be…i am not impressed with the majority of the posts so far…help me…dont make it harder…

Flannel Jesus only helps those who help themselves.
You’re being too vague.

you could have been very helpful but chose to remain detached from the thread…you are not the moderator of this subforum…

This is usually true, but I think there does need to be a balance of power to an extent if only to give both sexes a voice and to ensure there are members of each sex’s group taking care of them, members who know the issues and the needs of his/her own group.

Take maternity leave for example–fought for and won by women, as it only could be fought for and won by women. The need for single mothers to be compensated for their absence from work while trying to take care of a newborn is not something men in power usually think about. It’s not a male issue. This doesn’t mean men don’t care, it just means it doesn’t typically show up on their radar as an issue. Put women in power and we stand more of a chance that each sex’s needs and issues will be addressed.