Those aren’t the only options.
God is not a “force of nature”, depending on what you are calling “nature”.
God is intentional in the sense that God doesn’t change direction and cannot be changed.
But God is NOT intentional in the sense of ignoring a situation unless someone does something naughty and then deciding to go punish that particular person.
God is The Rule that never changes and applies to all situations at all times (much like the weather in the analogy).
The Church is merely informing people of the consequences of The Rule that always applies to all things at all times (“omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent”).
Now if you think of God as a magical person, as the Mormons do, you have a case of a punishing dictator. But that has never been what any Scripture has actually been about. They merely didn’t make that distinction because most people in those days didn’t care unless there was a dictator involved and probably couldn’t conceive of a universal “Rule” (even one of nature). That willingness to use the mindset of the common people because it yielded more coherence of society was one of the faults (out of several) that has led to today’s contentions.
I can’t translate what you are saying there.
It seems more like you’re talking about everyone voting for this governor that says they will kill everyone, but even though this prospective governor is saying that
No. Of course I’m not talking about the person who said that he was going to go kill everyone. Who would ever get into office that way?
You are not born with the notion that you are going to kill yourself. You are born with the inherent urge to attempt to stay alive. But during that process (after all of the “governors” have been placed into office (“brain has matured”)), fragmentation of decision making occurs as well as semi-isolated decision making and misinformation. That is why it is analogous to a society. Most of the people in a society have no idea at all of what their governance is thinking or planning. They are busy merely living their own lives holding “good faith” that their governors are trying to be good people (sad mistake).
By the time they discover that their governors were plotting the murder of their entire people, perhaps due to a foreign allegiance, it is too late to stop it. But that doesn’t mean that they willingly go along with it at any time. They are merely trapped.
With a suicide, the exact same scenario takes place. The vast majority of the living fragmented components within any single person very seriously objects to the intent to murder the entire body. But they have lost their right to have a vote due to the cleverness of the governor, that “conscious mind”. A little too much aspirin and the game is over. The vast majority had no say in the matter.
If China’s governance chose to annihilate all of China, they wouldn’t tell anyone. They would just arrange that it happens without any way for the people to escape (again, much like the USA governance). But don’t you think that you might see that as murder rather than a suicide? If you think in terms of the entire nation as merely a single entity, it would be suicide. But reality is that it is not merely a single entity, but a collective. Every single person is that same way, a collective effort, being governed.
So the thought is that even if the governor within a person decides to kill the entire person, it is still murder of the majority. The Catholics have been right about that (not that they handle it well). And that governor, due to the de-monolithic nature of the decision was referred to as a “demon” “possessing” the person - the exact same thing as a dictator usurping control, “taking possession”, of a nation.
That governor is not where life began for that entity (in either a person or nation) and is not the only life that gets killed in the suicide. If the governor decides to merely remove himself from life/office, then no one objects. That would be merely a dictator deciding to leave office. But that is not the same as an actual suicide or the intentional destruction of a nation.
In addition, do you consider it a justified suicide (changing of the effort to stay alive) if it was a decision based on misinformation or deceit?