Christian argument that something can't come from nothing

[Mutcer]

Precisely. If something did not come from nothing, then what "thing" other than a something could it have come from?

SEriously, you are not reading my posts. God is supposed to be eternal. God was not gotten.

Is God a "something", a "nothing" or something else?
If something else, then the argument "you can't get something from nothing" doesn't apply. "You can't get something from nothing" suggests that there is no third category which is neither something or nothing.

And if a "thing" is not a nothing, then it must be a something. Do you believe God is a something?

I believe Christians believe God is eternal and hence was not gotten from either something or nothing. I don't want to play word games around whether God is something or not, and in fact we do not need to. Since the issue is whether God came from nothing (or something). But God was not gotten according to Christian ideas. God always was.

Upon what basis (or evidence) do Christians believe that God didn't come from something?

If the "something can't come from nothing" rule doesn't apply to God, then why must it apply to matter, humans and the universe?

didn't you just read what I wrote. God didn't come. God was already and always present.

Why then do Christians insist that matter, humans and the universe must have come from something?

Do Christians believe that God is something? What real thing in this world do Christians believe "God" is?

And now you are shifting to another issue.

We'll ask that elsewhere.

My argument weak? I find it highly ironic to hear that coming from a Christian or one who believes that an omniscient, omnipotent & loving God exists.

This is a texbook ad hom.

With some 9,000,000 children under the age of 5 dying each year, it doesn't seem like this Christian God is very loving.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcSdPJb9c6k

What argument do you have that such a God does exist?

that is another topic. I am not arguing that God exists. I am pointing out the flaws in your argument.

There are only flaws in my argument if my argument is based on there being a category in which things fall that is other than "something" or "nothing". And I don't contend there is a third category.

Do you consider God to be a "something"?
(I'll respond to the rest later)

[James S Saint]

What evidence do you have that there is a prime cause for all that exists?

Definition.
Whatever situation that brings anything about, is its "cause".
To any and every situation, there is a prime combination of conditions that can be stated as merely one condition, hence One Causal Agent.
Elohim, one of the names for God, means the "combination of all causes (El)".
The snake in ancient scriptures represents the causal chain of cause-effect-cause-effect..., hence the "Serpent" (a poisonous snake) that spoke to Eve.

Which definition of faith are you using:

faith   [feyth] Show IPA
noun
1.
confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2.
belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.

Those are the ones relevant to this argument concerning faith in Logic.

Why can't an original cause of something change without affecting things which currently exist?

That would be a God that was, not an Eternal God.
Existence is still here being caused.
As long as there is existence, there is a God causing it.

You suspect there is an existence of what?

OF existence.

[phyllo]

With some 9,000,000 children under the age of 5 dying each year, it doesn't seem like this Christian God is very loving.

Humans could same those children. God put more than enough resources on Earth to do it and yet people allow others to suffer and die. Grow up. Take responsibility for yourselves. Stop trying to suck God's tits. Stop discussing the nature of God on the internet and start doing something meaningful.

Move out of God's basement - you are old enough to manage on your own.

[Mutcer]

With some 9,000,000 children under the age of 5 dying each year, it doesn't seem like this Christian God is very loving.

Humans could same those children. God put more than enough resources on Earth to do it and yet people allow others to suffer and die. Grow up. Take responsibility for yourselves. Stop trying to suck God's tits. Stop discussing the nature of God on the internet and start doing something meaningful.

Move out of God's basement - you are old enough to manage on your own.

If humans aren't saving those children, then why doesn't God step in and save them? Seems like he doesn't really care about children. Or he's incapable of doing anything. Or most likely is he doesn't exist.

[phyllo]

If humans aren't saving those children, then why doesn't God step in and save them? Seems like he doesn't really care about children. Or he's incapable of doing anything. Or most likely is he doesn't exist.

If God stepped in every time there was a problem then people wouldn't bother doing anything. They would sit around in their diapers because they know God will save them from their pooh. Don't get up, God won't let you starve. Might as well jump off a cliff since God will not allow you to be splattered. And of course, if there is a limit to God's intervention and He does let you fall to your death sometimes, then someone will come on the internet complaining that God allows suffering. Whaa

God is not your babysitter.