Moreno wrote:SEriously, you are not reading my posts. God is supposed to be eternal. God was not gotten.Mutcer wrote:Precisely. If something did not come from nothing, then what "thing" other than a something could it have come from?
Is God a "something", a "nothing" or something else?
If something else, then the argument "you can't get something from nothing" doesn't apply. "You can't get something from nothing" suggests that there is no third category which is neither something or nothing.
I believe Christians believe God is eternal and hence was not gotten from either something or nothing. I don't want to play word games around whether God is something or not, and in fact we do not need to. Since the issue is whether God came from nothing (or something). But God was not gotten according to Christian ideas. God always was.And if a "thing" is not a nothing, then it must be a something. Do you believe God is a something?
Upon what basis (or evidence) do Christians believe that God didn't come from something?
didn't you just read what I wrote. God didn't come. God was already and always present.If the "something can't come from nothing" rule doesn't apply to God, then why must it apply to matter, humans and the universe?
Why then do Christians insist that matter, humans and the universe must have come from something?
And now you are shifting to another issue.Do Christians believe that God is something? What real thing in this world do Christians believe "God" is?
We'll ask that elsewhere.
This is a texbook ad hom.My argument weak? I find it highly ironic to hear that coming from a Christian or one who believes that an omniscient, omnipotent & loving God exists.
With some 9,000,000 children under the age of 5 dying each year, it doesn't seem like this Christian God is very loving.
that is another topic. I am not arguing that God exists. I am pointing out the flaws in your argument.What argument do you have that such a God does exist?
There are only flaws in my argument if my argument is based on there being a category in which things fall that is other than "something" or "nothing". And I don't contend there is a third category.
Do you consider God to be a "something"?
(I'll respond to the rest later)