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I actually though it was well done trash. Sure, I cringed at the various messages and more so than with most movies by a significant chunk, but I thought it was competent empty trash for would be american ubermenshes in their dreams.

The Grey, which was basically the same movie but with Wolves instread of ‘darker than white people men’ as the enemy, was a better movie and I respect the ending, but I cringed at the messages here also, at least some of them.

Liam is now 60 and seems to be trying to come off virile with these machine films. neither comes close to a top several hundred films.

If anyone here can specifically tell me why Taken was a good movie, I will give it thought.

But you can’t say ‘Yeah, it was cool trash’ cause that still makes it trash, and you’re probably American so the reasons why it would cool is still shitty military cultural conditioning.

Let’s be honest: there is nothing good about that movie, whatsoever, other than Liam Neason being cool.

When it was halfway through I was giving serious thought if it was written, produced, and directed by the military. Like the whole thing.

I didn’t say it was cool. Yes amongst other nationalities I am american. my wife enjoyed it and she’s as american as Olaf Palme. And tell you why it was a good movie? I mean, there’s taste. maybe that day I wanted a justified rage romp, who knows. I certainly didn’t come away positively inclined toward the NSA or CIA or something.

I thought the action was fine.
And yes, he’s charismatic.

Of course, it is propaganda for intel and special ops people, or really any man - cop, CEO, whatever - who neglects his family and treats people poorly, but ‘really’ has a heart of Gold and ‘really’ is the hero and all other men are fags. Bruce Willis made a career out of this.

Most films have terrible themes. Even ones I like the political side tend to have crappy ideas about how to have integrity or interact with other humans or some other mainstream idea of the good, the right, love, when to feel guilty, who the bad are, what a man is, etc… I have to tune them out, and emotionally reframe what is going on.

You still haven’t said why it’s good.

Or are you saying it has a good theme. hahahhaha

Good is taste. The actions worked for me. I would have to sit down with you and watch the action again to explain why. I could suspend my disbelief enough to enjoy it. I can only assume there were some little clever tweaks in it and also LN moves differently from most action heroes, a kind of swaying big man, center of mass power, and that adds to the action simply because it is not the usual medium sized buff man motions.

Does this make it good? Can I demonstrate that you should have thought it was good? I don’t know how that works. And since it was one of many, if better than most, I think, trash movies, the action is a blur in memory.

The Bourne movies I can see better in memory.

I got engaged in the fights, which is a lot of the film, and so it worked as a little roller coaster little ‘I am beating up people I dislike’ fantasy implant. For me. I think it was competently choreographed and compared to most actions films not so hysterically implausible or distracting enough so I didn’t think too much, and hell I wasn’t there to think.

Some action movies, probably most have cliche choreography and such ridiculous scenes that i am forced to think about the lack of logic. Here they kept me moving past the gaps fast enough, I could shut them out.

I can enjoy trash. I can enjoy deep movies. I can enjoy movies that are very emotional. I can enjoy movies that make me rethink things.

I seem to have multiple aesthetics.

Call it a guilty pleasure, not that I feel guilty.

Because the bad guys are Albanian, and we never appear in movies. That’s why I first saw it.

The whole movie is cool. The plot was simple. Daughter is kidnapped. Awesome dad goes to great lengths to save her and punish those who fucked with her/him. There were not many plot-holes, or at least none that come to mind, which is to say that there weren’t any obvious ones that made the movie unbelievable. All movies don’t need to be layered.

Life is no argument, etc, etc.

[tab]The conditions of life might include error.
-Last Boss of Philosophy[/tab]

Yeah, you’re right.

That’s a good philosophy to live life by.

OK so big developments.

I’m 4 episodes into Twin Peaks, and I cannot say for sure yet, but this might be the best show I’ve ever watched. If you don’t like Lynch, though… then it might seem like pure nonsense. I don’t know how he does what he does, but it has to do with meditation and stuff.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ[/youtube]

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also this, because it’s hilarious[/tab]

Gobbo i aint gonna try & sell u a film you don’t like, but i wouldnt jump to presume those who like it are american - I’m not & am politically anti-american but i think ‘good trash’ just means its a comparatively good action film…
lets face it movies are not as good as they used to be and this one stands out as an ‘@ss-kicking’ film because of Neeson’s performance and what is a rather original script given the type of actions released in recent years

Finally got around to watching Snatch. Twas pretty good - basically it’s Lock Stock but with Brad Pitt playing a gypsy.

The thing is, no one actually talks like that, and the whole cockney gangster-geeza thing has been so overdone I didn’t enjoy it as much as I might. Very funny in places, but like most gangster films is basically a glorification of psychopaths. Gladly, in this one most of the proper psychos get killed. Which is nice.


Other recent watches include Wild Things: Diamonds in the Rough (the third in the series). Not as bad as the second, not as good as the original. Very cheap, but it’s the sort of movie you can make well without spending a lot of money.

Also watched The Road, which is bleak as all hell. Very beautiful, in a stark and bloodless way. Bit cliche, particularly the dead wife (this isn’t the X-Factor auditions - why does this poor bastard have a dead wife, isn’t there enough jeopardy in surviving the apocalypse only to die slowly of lung cancer and have to look after a starving child?) but overall quite strong stuff. Do not make my mistake and watch it while drinking gin, it will make you want to kill yourself.

Yeah you have to consider a north American watching it. I hadn’t ever see a British gangster. Or lock stock.

Sure, coming from where you’re from I can see the silly accents and dialogue being very funny. Lock Stock is worth a go, pretty much the same film but without the gypsies.

Snatch did inspire this bit of youtubing, which I love:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vskHXtPuvBk[/youtube]

I’ve seen some amazing movies lately, as well as two complete turds.
First the turds:
Ted - I watched this even though it looked to be bad from the trailers because a friend described it as a silly and absurd humor like in The Other Guys. He also said it was like early Family Guy. Well, it wasn’t. The attempt at humor is Family Guy-ish, but even if Family Guy were funny, which it isn’t, it does not translate well. Everything from the half-dimensional characters, to the soundtrack, to the simple-minded story is painfully sub-par. I did not laugh once, and if it wasn’t for the fact that the theater was full and I would have had to walk past a lot of people, I would have walked out 30 minutes in. I blame my social anxiety for having to suffer through it.
Savages - Good God, even my 15 year old cousin thought it was corny, and she’s into Beiber.

The amazing movies:
Amelie - Nauseatingly quirky.
The Fall - If you download or buy, make sure it’s in high definition because the visuals will blow you away.
Pan’s Labyrinth - I watched this again, and I can only unimaginatively describe it is as perfect.

Films I have recently watched:

American Reunion - Pretty bad. 5/10
Duo luo tian shi ( Fallen Angels) - Fucking awful, could not watch the whole thing. 3/10
Oslo, 31. august - Norwegian film about a depressed drug addict with suicidal tendencies. Very good but also very minimal. 7/10
Shaun of the Dead - Fucking awful, could not watch the whole thing. 3/10
Annie Hall - One of the funniest films I have seen in a long time. 7/10
Tony Takitani - Really bad. Could not watch the whole thing. 4/10
Lockout - Pretty bad action flick. 5/10
Honk Kong Confidential ( Amaya) - Great Latvian - Hong Kong co-production. Also VERY minimal. Beautiful but it will bore the masses. 7/10

Recently saw “Salmon Fishing In The Yemen” and was thoroughly entertained!! Wasn’t expecting to be but its really funny and quite a touching story i found.

Coriolanus – glad to hear you enjoyed Amelie it really is a gem of a film :slight_smile:

As for entertaining but ultimately meaningless movies, I do like Go. Not very well acted, but very well written, really tight storyline told at a high pace without ever becoming confusing.

I watched Primer. My head is full of wat.

Wait till you see the flowchart for it. lol I’ve seen Primer like 6 times. The only scene I don’t get anymore is right in the middle, and it involves them at the fountain, in the dark, talking about the missing cat. I think it’s a Schrodinger’s paradox thing reworked slightly, or something to be taken entirely metaphorically, because that one scene just doesn’t fit into the movie.

So I started watching ‘Continuum’ - it’s a Canadian show. The entire thing is social conditioning. From the very beginning it’s just… FULL of it. I wondered how a Canadian show got such a nice budget but now I understand. They were given nice funding by the big boys to get this going.

Check it out if you want to see how the future will look like, or thereabouts.

I am giving serious thought to trying to write exactly what ‘they’ want, and like try and get sucked into into the system where I can act as an infiltrator. Continuum took like all my ideas, though. Someone beat me to the punch, lol.