"Man Is An End"

[FilmSnob]

Nietzsche said that in the context of denying a perspective of humans evolving.

In this day and age, science has finally caught up to Nietzsche!

[Selah7+]

Nietzsche said that in the context of denying a perspective of humans evolving.

In this day and age, science has finally caught up to Nietzsche!

Evolution is a 'theory' and has never been proven in the scientific community, nor is it spoken of in Biblical theology or history. We are not evolving, nor are we becoming anything else than we have always been...human. Pigs will always be pigs and will never become birds or giraffes through 'evolution'. Mutations, on the other hand, occur from time to time due to disease, a break in the normal DNA code causing a deformity, etc, but nothing can possibly become something else. Man did not come from apes and there is no missing link. We are men and apes are apes.

[FilmSnob]

What are you talking about?

The bible clearly states that Eve evolved through divine action from Adam. That is a clear depiction of evolution in action.

[phyllo]

Evolution is a 'theory' and has never been proven in the scientific community, nor is it spoken of in Biblical theology or history. We are not evolving, nor are we becoming anything else than we have always been...human. Pigs will always be pigs and will never become birds or giraffes through 'evolution'. Mutations, on the other hand, occur from time to time due to disease, a break in the normal DNA code causing a deformity, etc, but nothing can possibly become something else. Man did not come from apes and there is no missing link. We are men and apes are apes.

Most Christian and Jewish sects accept the scientific explanation of evolution. Muslims already knew about evolution in the middle ages.
You are expressing a minority view.

[James S Saint]

There was something once called "the vanishing" not long ago. It was the design to cause specific races to seemingly just vanish without anyone doing anything to have caused it. The idea was to blame it on natural evolution, thus the idea of evolution had to be promoted as though it was not only a very good thing, but a very active and current thing (The X-Men films; "inexplicable mutations give super-powers").

It is actually manavolution, the designed alteration of the homosapian, not natural at all. Even the idea of it being natural was promoted a little more by the claim that homosapian, being merely another animal, is part of the natural and therefore anything homosapian does is also natural, thus "manavolution is natural".

Many far more detailed influences have been developed to ensure the change in homosapian, but the bottom line is that homosapian is to change and not wait on truly natural causes for it to do so. Why wait? Look at how many people today profess the wonder and hope for homosapian evolving into a better tomorrow and usually conceived as having no racial issues (because there will only be 2 races - Man and Human).

So is "Man" really an "End"?
It kind of depends on what you want to call "Man".

[MagsJ]

Do you know what races appeared to just 'vanish' JSS? Was this during a period of war and power struggles?

[brevel_monkey]

Nietzsche said that in the context of denying a perspective of humans evolving.

In this day and age, science has finally caught up to Nietzsche!

Evolution is an inevitable process. We have not stopped evolving. We never will. It is impossible.

The human species has stopped evolving as a whole. That's what Kaku means by "there's no such thing as gross evolution". At 1.30 in that video, this is exactly what he said.

Note also that the only reason that human evolution isn't occurring as a whole is that we can travel around so freely. If there was a closed community of humans, this group would continue to evolve in the same way any animal species would.

[James S Saint]

Do you know what races appeared to just 'vanish' JSS? Was this during a period of war and power struggles?

Moses' version of "God" was simply "The real truth of your situation" and with that in mind, he stated, "No man can look upon the face of God and live." Other OT stories reveal several events concerning what happens when too much truth is realized.

To be a good guy requires that one either do what actually works regardless of concurrent situation, or do what necessarily leads to what works, regardless of the progressing situations.

At times, the real truth is so horrifically and hopelessly dark, that I have to question whether anyone seeing it is a good idea, especially when it can be proven with substantial evidence (my reply to your question). So for the moment, the bottom line is that even though many people try to be the good guys and many people believe themselves to be the good guys, in reality, there are no good guys on either side of any fence. Even if you were to remove all fences, there would still be no good guys in the pastures, nor the upon the mountains.

It is best to hope that current "Man" is not an eternal "End". But altering DNA is not the way to fix that.

[FilmSnob]

Nietzsche said that in the context of denying a perspective of humans evolving.

In this day and age, science has finally caught up to Nietzsche!

Evolution is an inevitable process. We have not stopped evolving. We never will. It is impossible.

The human species has stopped evolving as a whole. That's what Kaku means by "there's no such thing as gross evolution". At 1.30 in that video, this is exactly what he said.

Note also that the only reason that human evolution isn't occurring as a whole is that we can travel around so freely. If there was a closed community of humans, this group would continue to evolve in the same way any animal species would.

Semantics. We agree.

[Selah7+]

What are you talking about?

The bible clearly states that Eve evolved through divine action from Adam. That is a clear depiction of evolution in action.

No, sir. Adam was not a divine being. He was human. It was God who created woman for man so that he would not be alone. Read Genesis. Eve was made form the rib of Adam to stand beside him and be a help meet for him.

[FilmSnob]

Right, Eve evolved from Adam through God's intervention.

[Selah7+]

Right, Eve evolved from Adam through God's intervention.

No, evolution was not involved, however, God did intervene and create Eve for Adam. Snob, I'm so excited, you almost got it!

[James S Saint]

What are you talking about?

The bible clearly states that Eve evolved through divine action from Adam. That is a clear depiction of evolution in action.

No, sir. Adam was not a divine being. He was human. It was God who created woman for man so that he would not be alone. Read Genesis. Eve was made form the rib of Adam to stand beside him and be a help meet for him.

Emm..

"Adam" was not "Human". Adam was "Man" (not "the hue of Man - "Hu-man").

From The Making of Man

Human (the "hue of Man") consists of those who societize and form Man. "Man" did not mean all homosapians, but only a particular governance of homosapians and life by the collected hu-mans. "Ahdam" literally means "the collected spirit".

Ahdam was formed in the "image of God". What is the image of God? Invisible. Ahdam was never supposed to be seen, else Ahdam would perish (hence "who told you that you were naked!?!"). You can think of Ahdam, the first "Man" (not human or homosapian) much as the first CIA agency in a land that had never conceived of such a thing and thus had the power to abuse its authority freely, “Absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

It is through the knowledge of how "good and evil" is formed (the "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil") that problems arose. The "Serpent" within that Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was the maniacal means to use conspiracy to cause what we refer to today as "False Flags" so as to Manipulate the population and thus control life and be more all powerful and God like. A "serpent" is merely a hidden agenda.

Eve, the lesser form of Man, could not resist the temptation to be more powerful and God like and thus partook in the fruits of the knowledge of good and evil. Ahdam then had little choice but to either completely wipe out Eve or "if you can't beat them, join them". The Ahdam gathering chose the latter. After being discovered, Ahdam and Eve had to "hide his desires behind 'fig leaves'" - the sign of good fruit or good intentions; "I am only doing these things to protect you and the environment" - a "fig leave".

It is all far more directly relevant than you know. Humanists serve the Ashkenazi Judists so as to reestablish the invisible (hidden) controller of all life, the God-wannabe.

Tethered by reality;

There is the ongoing cause of all that is (a.k.a. “The God”).
There is the order and chaos brought about by that cause (a.k.a. “The Universe”).
There is the adversary to every life (a.k.a. “The Devil”).
And there is You.. an instance of life.

The rest is just noise…

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Amongst all the noise there are many entities great and small, all vying for attention and ultimate influence – “God wannabes”. Some are mindless formations propagating through their circumstances. Some are forms of life, temporarily struggling to survive, not really knowing why and certainly not how, but merely presuming a purpose, need, and desire. Most all merely adding their bit to the noise.

Don't sweat the noise.

In Hebrew, the spelling for Ahdam, is אדם (or ADM). The three Hebrew letters each have a meaning that formed the ancient Anglish words involved.

א- Aleph is the word we use to speak of the initiating sound “ah” or more phonically, “uh”. It is called a “glottal stop” and even though it is considered a vowel in English, was considered a consonant in Hebrew because it had no designated vowel sound following the initial “ghe” noise from the throat. It represents “the first” and in Greek is called “alpha”. Today, in English it is simply, “A”, the first letter of our alphabet.

The sound/syllable "ah" in almost all ancient Anglo/Anglish/English referred to what is more often referred to as "initial spirit", “inspiration”, the "inner energy", motion, or effort within something.

The sound “ah” became synonymous with the idea of initial effort or spirit through the concept that all things begin with effort (i.e. “spirit” or “energy”). It is also associated with the idea of initial enlightenment or the "spark of wisdom", as used in the word, "Buddha". “YAH” being the more formally accepted concept of independently standing Cause, an agreement in spirit or a covenant, is now often used to mean merely, “yes, I agree”.

In addition our "ghe" sound also came from that same glottal-stop sound and also referred to initiating spirit, as in "ghe-host" (spirit-host, ghost), "ghe-oh" (to move, esprit, go), and even “ghe-odd” (an independent circumventing/determining spirit, god).

ד - Daleth (or more properly spelled, “Dalet”) is the fourth letter in the Hebrew alphabet and when used as an individual sound means door, gate, or dam. The concept is of something that opens or stops an otherwise free flow (of spirit in this case). To translate into more common understanding, it is merely a “holding or stopping device”.

ם - Mim, the 13th letter (in English, “M”), represents "water" (by modern translation), which in concept and by metaphor represents the flow of spirit (hence the common, “Holy Water” concern, “walking on the water”, “dividing the waters”, “calming the waters/sea”, and so on...).

When the two letters דם are put together, they form the concept of a water/spirit dam. The sound/syllable "dam" in Anglish referred to the familiar modern English concept of a "water dam", in that "dam" meant a flow being "held into place", the flow of spirit/effort being collected or gathered.

The more Latin concept of a damn being a curse is that same concept, a stagnating influence upon a person, people, or place. "Damn" still carries that concept today. "Dame", referring to the female, carried the same concept of a fixed divergent influence over the male and a curse for his rational thinking.

[FilmSnob]

Right, like I said, Eve evolved from Adam through the agency of the Lord allmighty.