Combinational Affair

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Infinite Reductionism ?

Maybe consciousness and the Mind, Brain, the Man Brain is based on something completely different from what our Scientific Models suppose: maybe the levels of reductionism explaining "how things work" are really infinite, the Causes and Effects, the Information Relationship Interactions within Matter extend forever from molecule to atom to quark to a smaller entity and down forever, each one having their particular Laws of Physics, their particular equations and quirks, and going on down to smaller and smaller forever and never ending, no matter how far down you go. We can only go a few steps, say only up to the planck level of 10^-40 meters or such, but there is another level of new equations and effects and interactions, a complete universe of interactions, maybe even very complex, maybe even very specific, detailed , chaotic, random, etc. at 10^-50 mm and then at 10^-70 mm and so on to 10^-200 mm and then 10^-1000 mm and so on, just keep on hiking up the number in the exponent to get to a New Universe and Laws of Physics expressing themselves and such. But the point is, a simple consciousness event of the Mind may have its origin very far down, like at 10^-100 mm that influences and interacts in a very complex way with a phenomena occurring at 10^-50 mm, and that with one occurring at the planck level and then quark level and then atom level and then molecular level, etc.

So if Infinite Reductionism is the name of the game, then science will never win, is destined to fail no matter what.

Also, I was thinking of all of the Economic Gurus always saying what must be done to grow the economy, improve the economy or create more employment and such, and so on. Well, it seems to me that no matter what, the forces interacting between people and their economic goals and interests are essentially completely disjoint and independent of any and all theories and models and such. They will keep on doing anything they want according to their interests and environments and situations no matter what laws or theories or models or "More Innovation" or "More Education" or "More Competition" models want to impose. There is no "Normal" and "Good" and "Correct" Economy, they are all quirk - unstable systems that are mostly unpredictable and follow no laws or models at all. Just like the Man Brain driving the system...

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Planet of The Apes ?

Time is infinite, the universe extends infinitely in space and time, therefore we are repeating a technological evolution that we already achieved in the past but slowly forgot, and each step of the evolution brings us to a more powerful technology enabling matter to do more with itself, to express itself and invent contraptions out of itself in ever more colorful ways and as the evolution goes forward it reaches a point where it starts to go backwards because it starts to forget some slight informational bits that it needs in order to continue to follow and navigate a given path, a given direction (but there are many directions, many parallel directions and such) so after a long time and after forgetting one bit every thousand years of information we reach the technology of 1950 so to say and start going forward again, or we may reach any mixed state of technological evolution some bits if 1950 some of 2300 some of 10 BC and so on, all possible combinations and mixes, all possible disjoint evolutions of technology given starting points with some parts more advanced than others and such.

Or we may be always going forward but repeating the same pattern over and over again, like a biological entity creating electronic entities that then create other kinds until a given entity recreates a biological entity forgetting that it came from a biological entity a long time ago and after many intermediate technological steps, etc.

Or Matter may reach the "Box of Matter" technology where it can assign the matter in the box any configuration imaginable, so as to be exactly equivalent to 1950 or 2300 or the center of a star, or a boat or a person, or an APE, or City or anything and the box can be of any size and can evolve in any way and you can assign it any configuration on the fly, just like a writing system just like setting a combination of bits in a computer and such. But since only the Reciprocal Information Relationships between various Chunks of Matter within the box create the essence of the experience matter undergoes within the box (and especially only the reciprocal informational relationships a Conscious Observer perceives counts, if matter doesn't contain a self observing gadget within itself, which it may, nay, it does, we just assign any truth, it doesn't matter, as matter won't contradict itself, it just invents itself), then these Reciprocal Information Relationships can be mathematically equivalent to a much simpler and more efficiently Self Interacting Chunk of Matter (using much less matter then the full monty box of matter would imply, a bit like compressing information, using less information to create the exact same effect and such, therefore using less matter (maybe even just a few elementary particles, a few electrons and photons ?) to create the same simulated and virtual world (but all worlds are virtual and simulated)), it may be expressed within a much simpler organization of matter, maybe just with a few bits within a Microprocessor that can produce the entire experience of a person - society in 1950, nay, even a deeper and more real experience by just adding a few extra bits and such (the simulation and virtual reality is more real than the reality imitated, and can become deeper and realer to ever more degrees by simply adding bits, nay, our reality is just a lightly simulated reality, the real reality, the deeper, infinitely deeper realities can be assigned and achieved within informational relationship machines and such).

But it may also be that everything is a memory chunk, every tree, pebble, every road and stone, every planet, wave on the ocean, all you see, and especially all of the combinations of all you see, no matter how random and disjoint is the memory of a past event for a given Modified Man Brain Observer capable of decoding the memory: the entire universe is just one long memory of past events for a given Observer, or many chunks of the universe are memories to given observers, and the delimitations and combinations and bits and pieces of matter used as observers and memories can be any at all, are any at all, etc. But then this recursive memory can be the object of other memories and the memories can be the observers (recursive as in the sequence of symbols (or sequence of items such as that pebble and the tree in Michigan and the ocean wave in the pacific that occurred in 1230, etc. can be a memory chunk for a given Observer made up of a car tire and a TV and a transistor somewhere...) S1 is the memory of an event A that happened 10 years ago, and the memory of when you wrote S1 is another memory slot S2 and the memory of when you wrote S2 is the memory slot S3 and so on) and the observers themselves can be assigned as the memories and so on, combining and mixing all and making all the objects and arguments of anything else as a function and any function can be any argument and so on. The Memory becomes the Observer which becomes the Function (event, (or single signal ?) or event experienced in a wildly modified mind partition from BRAINIUM) which becomes the New Memory Chunk for a New Observer Composed of a new Combination of Matter delimited in a given Chunk, etc.

But if you can assign the Box of Matter to be anything at all, why do you need so much Memory ? Then just let the Box of Matter cycle through all of the combinations so the process, the repetitive patterns contain the memories within itself automatically and such...


THE APE HAS TALKED ONCE AGAIN

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From:

http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/03/intermezzo.html

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BEWARE OF THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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Impossible World

The probability of anything happening or being is ZERO. Because if you multiply the probability of event A happening, no matter how probable, times the next interacting event B and so on to the final resulting event F it will always be equal to zero as the limit of multiplying fractions tends towards ZERO as the events increase and the number of subsequent events increase: but the subsequent events happening in even a microsecond is very large since there are more than 10^30 time slots in which each event occurs in a microsecond etc. So for example the probability that a given car accident happens is given by the probability of the exact time a person exits his house multiplied the probability that the other car driver exits his house at an exact time multiplied the number of stop lights and the probability that each light lasts a given times and so on such that the reciprocal events add up (and their probabilities multiply up) and provoke the accident. Another example is the probability of you being born is the probability of your parents meeting in an exact time slot multiplied all the subsequent events happening such that you get born, etc. As a corollary, the probability of the First Living Cell occurring is also ZERO since it would be all the subsequent chemical events leading up to a working cell and such, so the Intelligent Design vs Science debate is useless and they are both saying the same thing, they are the same: Life occurred through a ONE SHOT MIRACLE EITHER WAY.

So given that the probability of anything at all is ZERO, nothing needs to be explained, all is explained, all just happened, is just a random quirk, so Science is defeated from the outset, there is no Science, there is no need to explain something that just happens, determinism is defeated structurally. The repetitive patterns Science discovers and Technology uses constantly are just dumb luck: they can disappear in a jiffy, structurally, they are a joke on us, they are teasing us and just waiting to contradict our expectations when you least expect it, The Laws of Physics Are Clowns.

But an interesting thing happens: each event connects present separate chunks of matter into an original single chunk of matter (or everything is connected to everything else since they were once all part of the Monolithic Metaphysical Particle provoking the Big Bang, or is it that each encounter of particles, each event is a Big Bang ?), everything is a circuit where various chunks of matter meet in various moments in the past, like a tree, all of the branches end up at a root. But there are also cross connections and anything can be connected to anything else, but separated by distance and speed, but most likely not separated at all in hidden parallel dimensions or completely disjoint in other hidden dimensions but most importantly related in anyway at all through completely new variables - abstract concepts and words - properties representing completely new Reciprocal Information Relationships between various chunks of matter, particles, random delimitations, combinations of chunks of matter and such. So the configuration of matter in the Box of Matter can also be seen as a given result of past cross connections, a network of events connecting various random chunks of matter making believe that they are repetitive patterns when they are just a picture, a random picture: and the connections can go in the opposite direction from a single item to many separate items and then connecting to others that come from other past single items and such, everything is connected to everything else (if even potentially) but also everything is disconnected from everything else and such...History is a picture, the events are solidified in a Crystal - Pure Monolithic Slab of Solid State Information Relationships: they are Frozen in place...

THE 8 HAS TALKED ONCE AGAIN

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We Are Always Dead

Since we are an instantaneous combination of bits perceiving a given state, and we perceive a sequence of states and we only ever remember our life as we compare each state to the configurations we organized in our memory but as such life is only a new combination, a further configuration to put in memory, a further interaction, but since the possible combinations are at least more than 10^10000 obviously we will never visit most of the possible combinations and as such we will never live those configurations ( as those configurations are tied into our intentionalities and will powers to reach them, our targets and our comparison of an imagined or desired new combination as related to the old ones already present in memory ), live through those experiences and as such we are effectively dead as compared to most of the combinations, so we are always dead even because we are only and ever mostly a memory access machine remembering an imagined life, as such a comparison machine comparing a new configuration with a previous one and perceiving a relative experience and setting up new targets of which only a very few will ever be reached given the combinational explosion of possibilities the Man Brain with all of its neurons and circuits and events and signals can undergo and such (not to mention all the possible Modified and Newly Designed Man Brains living a much Deeper and Alive Life).

So we live only one picture at a time, why change the picture then ? how many pictures do we need ? how many lives do we need to live ? how many sequence of experiences are enough ? or are we simply an action reaction circuit (and other Man Brains are mirrors reciprocally perceiving, so how many mirrors can be put in the Box of Matter and how many possible delimitations can be assigned as mirrors and objects, subjects and objects, Observers and Invariants plug into the equations of the Observers?)? But we are mostly dead, nay, ALWAYS DEAD, we will never visit all of the combinations, and even if we did visit all of them what difference would it make as any combination of Mass Energy and any configuration of Matter set up in the Box of Matter are all equivalent, all dead compared to the previous or next configuration, just cycle through all of them, but still, we are always dead...

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UNTHINKABLE ?

Take the number of atoms in a centimeter of Matter, so maybe 10 ^ 9. How many combinations of matter can be performed by that number of atoms ? 10 different atoms gives you 10 ^ ( 10 ^ 9 ), a very high number and such. So Matter can combine in so many ways, it can express a combination of possibilities, so in that centimeter you may have many combinations that express a Mind, an Observer, a Lifeform, an Item undergoing some kind of Experience, a combination of a brain interacting and such. And the mindform may be diffused, may be under many interacting levels, there may be many will power effects reciprocally between entities within the Matter, many different universes and therefore laws of physics. All of those atoms combining to create a new universe as perceived and observed by a subset of the group of atoms acting as an observer, etc. So this is the real parallel universe effect, this is where the real parallel universes live, within the possible combinations of matter creating new brain designs therefore new laws of physics and new universes, new rules of engagements of a subset of matter with its surrounding matter or containing matter environment or with the environment contained within itself and such (or vice versa, it doesn't matter, inside or outside, larger or smaller, any rules of engagments are possible) and each new combination of matter creates a new universe with new laws of physics and new kinds of Observers in the form of new Brain designs, new Interactor designs and such.

And in fact, there are many more possible laws of physics than particles of matter, the number of universes greatly exceeds the quantity of matter used to express the combinations corresponding to a new universe, and as such there are many more Information Relationships than quantity of Matter and Mass Energy itself, as if Matter is just a substrate, an excuse to express relationships that become alive and become Matter undergoing Experiences, etc.

But of course all of this is using our logic and view of the universe as if it were the absolute, the total containing view, as if our view is an absolute: but it is not, it is just one universe amongst many trillions of others, all equally true or false, all equally valid views, all views that have their own synchronized and internal coherence but only because they do not enter in contact with other views, other formats (worlds formatted according to another system of symbols and rules) that would render the view confused and no longer coherent. But these intermediate states exist also and such.

But it is difficult for us to accept that our laws of physics are essentially false, or just a make believe, arbitrary and valid just for our very distinct and specific and quirk design: but it is so, even though this discussion itself is using logic itself to justify and discover all of this, and logic itself is a quirk, but so then this brings us close to the edge, the edge of reality as discovered by logic.

So all of the possible Minds and Brainforms and Observers and Experiencing Machines within a Block of Matter, a Box of Matter cycling through all possible combinations of different atom types and interactions and forces, each creating a new universe with new laws of physics, and yet even this large scale abstract view of the Box of Matter is just a puny view of something much larger, as the new Minds inside that block of Matter have many more deeper and more powerful abstractions and formats and rules of engagements and such.

But Absolutes then do exist: our view of all is the absolute, even though we would like to have a more relative and detached view, we format all in our logic and worldview no matter what, the absolute to be true would have to be independent of any material configuration, would have to be enternal, would express itself and remain alive no matter what happens to the underlying physical machine expressing the mind: as if our mind would have to remain alive forever no matter what happens to its physical support, even if it explodes, our mind would remain intact and be independent of matter, that would be a real Absolute.

So absolutes don't exist or do they ? As if you ask "Does God Exist ?" and you answer (the only true and correct answer) "I don't Know", that is the end of all debates, there is nothing else to say, it is forever an unknown: the same with modified Brains and Minds: that is the end of all debates and discussions it is forever an unknown...

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Box of Grey Matter ?

So you have maybe 50 different types of Atoms, of chemical elements arranged in a Box of Matter maybe just one centimeter cube or maybe a million kilometers cube, etc. So how many different possible combinations can these atoms be in ? how many possible brain styles can be created, invented or designed, nay, can emerge from this box cycling through all of the combinations like a counter, like a binary counter counting up to 10 and going back to 0 again and cycling over and over again ? How can a Box of matter become a living Brainform, an observer of itself or subsets of itself and interact with subsets of itself creating an Experience, or some kind of Conscious Experience, or creating a lifeform evolving through specific pain/pleasure circuits and target circuits and such ? of course, all of these words are just very simple concepts which we understand, but the circuits affecting the Box of Grey Matter may be deeper, more elaborate, more complex and abstract than simply pain/pleasure, may be more contorted and colorful than simply logic guided by the Prison Guards of the Principles of Non Contradiction and Identity.

How does Matter undergo a phase change into becoming an Observer ? How many Matter to Brain converters are possible ? How many intermediate states can the Box of Matter be in that corresponds to a brain or many brains or diffused brains or many civilizations or many many other things, the crazier the better, the more far removed from anything we can imagine the better, diffused will power gadgets, diffused Observers, observers changing states and designs, unstable brain designs that cycle through many different styles, matter following many weird and unknown paths, brains becoming one and then becoming trillions of others and then becoming all different, and then Matter itself becoming something else and so many other abstractions, if you can imagine it, it is real and then the disconnection of the Information Relationships from matter expressing them, Information finally free from the prison of Matter, the Platonic existence of Existence and Laws finally achieved, Information that exists even when matter is detroyed as it has flown into a pure abstract non destructable world, and the Box of Matter can express so many different combinations and each ever more remote, a denotation, an abstraction and such.

The Box of Gray Matter becomes a fluid (or Gas ? or Plasma ? or Dense Neutronium ?), a liquid with trillions of new Brain designs, the BRAINIUM State of Matter, or becomes a Solid State of crystallized Brainforms, or civilizations, or each point in the Solid State Form of BRAINIUM is a civilization, or a planet, or an emotion gadget, or an emotion detached from a being, or a pure pleasure entity not belonging to any "body", or just belonging to an Electron and such, etc. Or the center of Stars are plasmas but are hiding trillions of new Brain Designs and Styles, modified Minds, Instant Singularity Minds with wildly different circuits and associations and functionings living in wildly different Universes with New Laws of Physics (since a new Observer Design implies a new Universe and Physics Design), much more extended, very large landscapes and views, High Mountain types, incredible scenary, incredible new worlds and life, etc.

Stick the Cadillac in your Brain, enter a new Universe with new Laws of Physics, you can do it Man, just do it, first gear, it's all right, second gear, hold on tight, third gear, you're out of sight...

Quo Vadis, Baby ?

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What can Happen in the Box of Matter ?

So the Box of Grey Matter, the Box of Mindform / Brainform Material, the Box of Atoms and Electrons and Such that is maybe 1 centimeter cubed or 1 million kilometers cubed has Matter executing paths, predetermined paths through the Iron Clad Fist of the Laws of Physics, but then Virtual Unlimited Paths through the Simulation of Reality Styles and Designs on behalf of part of the Brains and Brainforms and Mindforms emerging from the Box of Matter (or completely new paths that combinations of Atoms and Forces and Electrons and Photons produce and Execute, totally unknown to us and our Puny Logic and such or completely new paths according to the completely new laws of physics the trillions of new brain designs perceive and live within and such), evaporating and condensing through phase transitions within the Box of Grey Matter and such and such: and they produce Synchronized Matter, Self Coherent Synchronized Matter that can execute only some paths according to specific constraints of various types, either Physical (the Laws of Physics), Pain/pleasure type circuits or anything else, as in creativity expressed within limiting boundaries otherwise it wouldn't know how to express itself if unlimited in any way and such.

And so many Cross Synchronized Matter Chunks and Experiences, Mixed Universes and Lifestyles, completely new Solid State Universes with completely new and incredible - fantastic and colorful laws of physics and experience styles and types and lives, and hyperlives, hyperreality, Metaphysics achieved to the upmost, a Box of matter expressing combinations we never could possibly imagine and such...

THE TOBOR HAS SPOKEN ONCE AGAIN

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http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/04/strange-jubilee-1.html

"... is the place behind a 7-11, a little patch of asphalt, a high fence and some weeds. In a full moon it is glorious, and when the halogen overhead is on it is threatening. On a Sunday morning it is as quiet as a church. Birds visit. In the evening it is routinely invaded by quarrelling lovers, night shift managers, and teenagers. What is interesting about the world is that every corner is unique. By standardising each unique corner, the workers of the world erase it. Wherever a road is built, a house erected, or a building created, the world is rubbed out of existence. So we employ people to scrub the world, the keep nature from coming back in. We hope it covers our mistake, because as soon as nature makes a crack or drops a leaf on it, it becomes obvious how ugly it is.
Man is nature, but he scrubs himself, and by doing so makes himself look worse.

If there is a thing called 'resilience', the unwashed bum has it. Perhaps global warming will create the service economy he's been waiting for. He'll charge you a cigarette butt to join the circle at his tin stove. He won't recognise your offer of a turnip but he won't turn it down. As each day passes, you look worse and worse- but the bum looks the same. He laughs at you, at us all. "

The Ape Answers:

You worship Nature as a Religion: The beauty of the world is exactly in all the little random details, if Man Made, even better, the contrast with "Nature" is even more remarkable, as if Man is really some kind of Alien, something truly outside of the World, as if he is "Outside Looking In". But the old cars abandoned in the weeds, the decay of all buildings, all the little cracks, all the random chaos, all of that which is outside of our Drone Mind of A against B, conflict - fight based, Ego based is what makes the world pretty: it represents all of that which is outside of our logic and binary reasoning, all of that which is useless, in which you can't do anything with it, it has NO FUNCTION therefore pretty. I like all items, especially Man Made items decaying and contrasting with Nature.

Especially the imaginary contrast between the result of Intention, the Man Brain Planning and Deciding what should be done, what should be performed, what should be Designed, as in the design of Cars and Buildings (all of the Standard International Building Styles you can see all over the World, the Same, just look at Street View in Google, Bangkok Thailand, Sao Paolo Brazil, NYC, Los Angeles, Mexico City and on and on all Standard International Building Styles, Boxes, all kinds of Boxes and some Single Family homes, all kinds of homes, but it is as if "YOU ARE ALWAYS IN THE SAME PLACE, THE WHOLE WORLD IS EXACTLY THE SAME ALL GIVEN" (but the USA is the only with REALLY WIDE STREETS AND ROADS, and that is because the USA is way richer than all of the others and BETTER, they built environments for Cars, for Machines and Consumption and Big Box Stores, exactly what was the Right Thing to Do)).

The items and entities that are randomly arranged and designed according to some Will Power, some Man Brain imagining and planning things in a certain way (and performing Expectations of Functions and Results, and contrasting other alternative designs and arrangements, but of course as always a proxy for contrasting other detached and remote and intractable Will Powers that decided something previously and before or different and such, as if you know some Man Brain and Mind decided something some way, and it pisses you off because you wanted it another way, and would like to win the fight but it is too late).

Random pebbles that are the result of past Will Power decisions intersecting and mixing up with random Blind Pure Nature Forces changing and rearranging the original disposition and combination and configuration of the pebbles, car tires, buildings, the floor, the weed on a side, the color of the old house, the road, the cracks, you name it, the carpet, the old TV set in the basement, the old cracks on the old computer of the 1980s in the Attic, etc.

But Will Power Forces and the Natural Laws of Physics forces are one and the same, all random, quirky, without any task or goal or result, it doesn't matter Who or What did it, who cares, what matters is that it is useless, vain, just a pretty picture, just something to remind us of how useless and vain and insignificant we all are, especially our fights and Functions and Tasks and Intentionalities and Will Powers, etc.

The engine of a new machine is the mountain and forest and your backyard all having a precise function and all being a precise gadget in a complex intractable and impossible to understand machine with trillions of pieces all interacting, the grass blade, the pebble, the mountain top, the rocks under a mountain, the 16 rocks under a certain point in space on the mountain and in the ocean and such...

THE APE HAS SPOKEN ONCE AGAIN

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http://instantsingularity1.blogspot.it/

THE APE HAS SPOKEN ONCE AGAIN

TOBOR HAS SPOKEN ONCE AGAIN

THE EIGHTH MEN HAS SPOKEN ONCE AGAIN


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http://instantsingularity.blogspot.it/

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From:

http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/04/strange-jubilee-1.html

"The rusting Cadillac is pretty because of the weeds and rust transforming it from a straightforward and unambiguous Symbol into something else, something more subtle and suggestive and evocative. It once again becomes a source of beauty and art.

New cars are marketed as symbols of beauty, but it is a cultish beauty. You are invited to experience its beauty as a singular, flawless object. ...."

Busty

I don't want comparison, I don't want Right or Wrong, I don't want who did what, who is right and who is wrong, who is guilty and who is not, What we should do instead of what we did and such. Hate Nature Busty, use it as a tool, the dam creates electricity that is good for people, the greens don't like people, they like an imaginary clown in the sky called Nature (what was once called the good old Jesus Khryst, in fact, give us back the good old Khyrst for Khryst's sakes, we don't need any new (age ?) religion, we already have many fine old ones that work well enough in hosing people's minds). I just like things as they are, all kinds of things, the beauty in the way they are simply without any Function, any Social Meaning and Morality, they are nothing at all, we can't do anything with them, we can't attach them to any of our puny pain/pleasure circuits or any of our social conflicts, Me better than You, me more morally correct than you BS and such, any fights, and win or lose thingys, etc. We can't attach the old car in the weeds with any Function, any intentionality of use, anything at all, it simply suggest that things are mostly undefined, mostly useless, mostly without any function.

Just like Science and Math are mostly the results of Machines expressing Mathematical Relationships from the outset, from the beginning (by their design and their Intentionality of use reflecting the way we are designed, and especially the way our Man Brain is designed, the arbitrary quirk stupid circuits in our randomly organized Man Brain which could have trillions of new better, more chaotic, deeper, richer and refined organizations and such, the way we were arbitrarily designed by the blind forces of Nature through natural Evolution, but having no deeper truth or fundament or absolute than a random group of pebbles on the street) and we think that that is Nature talking to us (when we are simply talking to ourselves using our puny language and logic, nay Matter talking to itself with one of trillions of arbitrary language and reality framing and formatting systems possible) and expressing the unreasonable precision of mathematics in its predictive and descriptive power in physics the physicists love to believe in, just like another religion and such, everything we look at is always trying to be framed into something social, good or bad, morality, political, guilty or not guilty (and punish and deserving this or that and hard work crap), fights, A against B meanings and suggestions: just like you do, but you can't see past all of this BS, this mental pollution, you can't accept things for what they are, simply useless, without a function, without meaning, expressing pure existence without any possible function.

In fact, we should construct machines out of random pebbles on the street and mountains and random ocean waves and wild clouds, we should construct abstract machines that use all of that which has and can't have any function even because it can't even be delimited and pinpoint down (an ocean wave extends in time and space an unknown amount, same as clouds and such) and such machines must provide functions that are even more detached and abstract, impossible to define, ever more.

The V8 in the new cadillac is made up of pebbles as the cylinders and clouds as the spark plugs and such. And repeat and extend, the wilder the better, be crazy, be insane, be incomprehensible, break the chains of logic, of people and society, break the chains of Non Contradiction and the Identity Principle, kill it all.

THE 8 MAN HAS SPOKEN ONCE AGAIN

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Imagination...

Lingering on, the past events or experiences or meanings, the past lifestyles or life stories linger on in the mind and set the tone, the past events, many distinct add up or separate, and you remember them and feel good or bad because you remember the value they had in other people's mind, their judgment (or imaginary judgment that you can never know, or maybe will never know, or no one will ever know because all events are eventually forgotten, disappear, they never were, if only for a short time in reciprocal "common world based" minds interacting through messages and such). But disconnect the events from the feelings, mix them up, get confused, make it all up, make believe, who cares and who knows and such.

So the Brain, the Man Brain imagines another possible design for itself, a chunk of Matter is trying to imagine "Itself" differently, styled differently, made up of different sub blocks, a different wiring diagram for the brain, a different schematic of the Mind circuits, etc. A Mind imagining itself with different circuits and trying to imagine what could happen in those different circuits: but the very act of imagining them creates them, the Instant Singularity (that act of sticking wild stuff in brains (whose brain then ? yours ? mine ? the other's ? no brain ? all brains ?) by cracking open the skull and just Doing It in order to create a new Man Brain, hence Experience, hence Universe with New Laws of Physics and such) is the thought itself of the singularity, it self creates itself, it explores what it could be, it is a self observing, self referential system self creating itself, at ever higher abstract levels and connecting the feelings, emotions and sentiment circuits and all other kinds of wacky circuits in any way at all, etc.

But just imagine that there is no possible other kind of brain, all possible new connections have been tried out physically and the end result is that they do nothing, they are just dead, they die and such. Imagine that all of this talk of modifying the brains is vain, as it cannot be modified in any possible way, it is what we have or it isn't at all, end of story (aside from the fact that you will never (?) know (or just make up what happens or whatever) since you would have to try out all of the combinations of new brains and live with that brain and see what happens and such).

Ok, then, but then the very fact that I can imagine new designs of brains, the very fact that I can invent and make up new designs and create new circuits in my brain and mind means that it can be done and is done and can be assigned, only that it can be done only abstractly, theoretically, it can be forced only from higher levels of the brain functions, the mental - symbolic - abstract circuits of the brain creates new brains, that simply means that physical manipulation is off limits also because not needed, that is simply not the path to achieve the Instant Singularity, you simply need to assign it in your mind, and as you assign it becomes real as the content of your mind assumes - creates - invents and programs the new circuits if even only imagined, but imagined circuits are really manipulating the real circuits, have some effect on the real circuits, so this demonstrates that the Instant Singularity is real and can be created in trillions of different ways, all of the possible ways to imagine new Minds that become new real Minds and such. A new big bang, just make it all up, imagine it, lie to yourself, lying is the best invention possible, fake it out, fake is real.

And even if all of the above is false, who cares, assign it as true anyways, don't give a damn about real and fake, true and false, right and wrong or good and bad, win anyways, like a cry baby you win! you win! I win! force it, just force it and cheat on yourself and reality, kill the Principles of Identity and Non Contradiction, Be God, BE YOUR OWN BOSS. AMEN.

THE APE MACHINE HAS SPOKEN ONCE AGAIN

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Infinite Number of Lives ?

There are many more "Dead people" (an infinite amount of Dead People, the Universe is a Cemetery) than alive people as in anything at all (the pebble, the cloud, the car, the car spark plug, the car seat etc.) that is not a person can be assigned as a "Dead" person since any dead person and any other chunk of matter that isn't a person is equally "Dead", are having the "same experience" (that is No Experience (?) if we think we know (?)), non existent, at least from our point of view and what we can fanthom and such.

But so the opposite is also true: any combination of elements that can be combined to produce a living brain with a given memory, with given "memories", as in "memories of life past" can be a "New person", a "new Creation", you can create a new life and life story, and life just assigning a chunk of matter to be equivalent to a given person, just combine the atoms to make person A (included the body and environment and other people who remember the same memories and the same exact environment (Synchronized Matter ?), so that the person who is plugged as alive instantly couldn't tell the difference if it all came to be the last few seconds or actually lived many years as his memory configuration and environment suggest: in other words, you could be an instantaneous creation of some Alien race making you come alive only in the last few seconds, but you can never notice and such).

So then just take a Man Brain in a good simulation and assign it a life, a past life (just assign the memories of a life and you created a new person completely with all of his past history, just like simply assigning a random variable in a computer program, exactly what the simulation would actually do, just plug in a number and create a new life, no need for the life to have actually evolved from baby to man through time, the end result is the same, just a quick assignment, just a quick instantaneous combination of atoms creating the person on the fly and such), you create a new person, trillions of new people come alive, the possibility of inventing new people on the spot, in a jiffy, complete new lives, but many more than trillions as life stories and events and the history of the emotional and experience rollercoaster can be so many more than trillions, exponents of exponents as in 10 different memories slots or life events organized in 50 different ways and each associated to 50 different hard wired emotions, or manipulated emotions and feelings, or random choices (as the alien race could intervene and manipulate the lives and reciprocal lives of people to test out many new combinations and such) such as (10 ^ 50) ^ 50 and so on, you get the drift.

So there are an unknown number of lives and living people and life stories possible (even your own with slight variations or big variations, all the combinations, try out various event histories or hard wire them, assign them, leave some slots free to random forces (and other random free wills) and other slots as forced and hard wired to go in a certain direcion and such).

Everything is both a gigantic cemetery of an infinite number of Dead People and a gigantic Maternity Ward of an infinite number of New People Created On the Spot, or city with potential lives, everything you see can be a life story, the life of a person, everything can be assigned and denotated, an indirection meaning a history or life story, everything can be an emotional story, or an emotion or feeling, the road, the highways the sign are all parts of an emotion or life history, but not as you would imagine but as indirect symbols, as denotations as abstractions, trillions of new possibilities, incredible contraptions and such. So the highway is the history of a person but that person's Man Brain is the pebble and the car seat and the ocean wave combined and such, go on invent it, make it all up, who cares. And this is just counting our traditional view, but what if you insert into the memories of man brains any crazy pattern, any old pattern like a pattern of rocks on mountains or grass in the backyard or a forest configuration and then see what possible life story that new memory pattern could represent ? and even disjoint lives, incoherent or partially coherent lives, and all other things imaginable and so on ?

Everything you see can be a pattern of memories in a modified Man Brain corresponding to a new person a new creation, the back seat of the car plus the McMansion plus the old TV all put together can be a new pattern inserted in a memory of Man Brain creating a new person, a new life, a New Creation and such.

THE APE MACHINE HAS SPOKEN ONCE AGAIN

[nameta9]

From:

http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/04/strange-jubilee-1.html

Symbol to Matter Converter

Howdy folks! Apetard is back again! Apec*ck is back again, the ph*cktard in person (what tzatza used to call me, oh, how right he was!). So here's the deal: how many symbols are needed to condense them into a chunk of Matter, into say a neutrino or photon ? How much information is needed to finally create Matter ? That is the question. A lot, but it doesn't matter because the Matter is the Symbol and they can be converted into each other through abstract - metaphysical circuits. Imagine all of your life and body and sense and pain/pleasure circuits no longer depending on any physical support, they are eternal, indestructable, only pure Information Relationships that have disconnected the attachment to material styles and designs expressing the illusionary form and format of connection of matter designs to Experience and Sensation and and such. So in other words, if they crack open your head, nothing happens, you remain alive since you no longer depend on matter, same with if they burn you or explode you in a million pieces and such.

Hence the disconnection of Matter from Existence and Experience has been achieved, so then at that point anything can be then connected to your Man Brain and body and life, any new Material configuration or any configuration at all can be associated with your Information Relationship Set, but this time there are dependencies, you can connect the metaphysical circuits so as to create a new dependency that will create new effects and experiences and such: so your Brain is a Car Tire, and your Memory of your life is the sofa, so then by moving these reciprocally you undergo a new styled experience, all kinds of new sensations and effects and experiences can be achieved: now extend and extrapolate and create all kinds of wicked associations, ever more abstract and connect the circuits to so many intermediate circuits and sensations and effects (invent all you wish), and the abstractions increase and denotations increase and the effects increase and the pain/pleasure and all other extrapolated and completely newly invented sensations and things are amplified trillions of times and such.

So all matter is simply symbols talking to each other, it is all abstraction with some circuits associated and connected to reality chunks and reality points, making them create sensations and effects that we can feel. But we can feel them even if they have no material design as a base.

From this we can see that everything could possibly be alive, everything a special Man Brain as in Brainium but then maybe just a subset ? the mountain is your eye and the ocean your feet and/or the car tire your memory and such ? and maybe all of these new connections can be other new animals and other beings, ever abstract and different from us ? maybe so many alien beings that have disconnected themselves from matter only to connect to various chunks and designs of matter to experience all kinds of new events, experiences, meanings, sensations, achievments and such ? and then by connecting their mind and thought to pebbles on the street they become a new life, a new creation ? and then they connect to the McMansion and become yet another new creation and such and even the electrons of atoms ar simply symbols that talk to other symbols like the protons in the nucleus, everything is symbol to symbol interaction connected to hard matter every now and then ? and then many other abstract circuits symbol to symbol, matter to matter and so on forever more abstract and incredible.

THE APETARD HAS SPOKEN ONCE AGAIN

[nameta9]

Disconnect

So if you disconnect all entities from their material design, from their material support and attach them to other material designs, or any combination of material designs (and symbols ? and other entities ? and other things ? any "things" at all ?) and let all of the other material items assume what they would respectively be through their prior Information Relationships, you can obtain many different new worlds, the goal and task and fun is to compare this to what you already think you know, to enjoy the contrast, the possible inversion of reality and such, etc.

So if you separate a photon from its material design as a round little ball and associate its function and relationship with any arbitrary chaotic set of entities, for example that single photon on Mars can be disconnected from its material support and connected to a sofa plus a rock plus a panel plus a chunk of ocean plus a chunk of solar plasma plus a shirt (the sum (or any other possible relationship ? subtraction or multiplication or square root or etc. ? mixing ? denotating ? imagine any trillions of new invented relationships making the photon become a sofa and a shirt and such) of all of these items IS the photon based on a new material style), then what would all of the other entities in the universe become ? they would have to all change their connection to material designs to conserve all of their reciprocal Information Relationships and such (but you can also assign rules where they don't have to conserve their relationships but create completely new relationships, or trillions of relationships where there was one, or no relationship where there where many and so on). But you can also disconnect many different material items from their material support and connect them to many others, all different, so maybe one electron is connected to becoming a car, another electron is connected to becoming an animal, another electron is connected to becoming a photon and another electron is connected to becoming a galaxy and such (and a new Mind is made up of all of these newly designed and formatted electrons and the rules may be changed as each elementary particle is no longer indistinguishable, but they are all different combination of items and hence the new Mind made up of this new material support will experience completely new universes and lifestyles and forms, etc., but you can do the opposite and condense many different items into being just a photon: the car and rock and backyard is one photon in a new Man Brain, but the next electron of the newly designed and formatted Man Brain is a city, so you have both condensation and explosion of entities, many items condensed into one item and some items exploded into trillions of items and such, all kinds of wacky relationships, cool ...). And then all other items must follow all kinds of reciprocal formats, some coherent, some ad hoc, some partially coherent and so on, and the very line of connection and disconnection of items from their material support can also become new items and new supports, new designs imposing all kinds of new changes, etc. So many items can be condensed into one photon but also one photon can be assigned in place of many items, but also one photon can become a rock plus a mountain plus a city (and the two directions condensation and explosion are different, are totally different animals and so on, and many new directions, many new diode types of matter to matter converters, all kinds of things, mix it all like crazy) but also this line of connection can be many different other things, so many items can be related to a photon in many ways, and can be not only equal or condensed or exploded into a photon but many other relationships, trillions of relationships, so the relationship that disconnects a photon from its material support can be a sofa, and the end point of the line can be a TV set and so on, ever more wild relationships, the destructuring of reality, the mixing and matching of all kinds of wild pseudo possible mathematical relationships that are in all truth pure Metaphysical Relationships, etc.

And then extend and extrapolate, the carbon atom in your mind is a sofa plus a shoe, and your eye is an electron and your other eye is a galaxy and so on, and each of these are other condensed or exploded items since the galaxy that is your eye is made up of planets that are atoms but also other planets that are completely newly designed Man Brains, and so on, up and down and all other kinds of extrapolations and so forth.

Or something like that...

THUS SPOKE THE APE MACHINE