Thanks to Tents for reading through all the bumf, particularly my bumf, again, and for his commentry. In hindsight I should have pushed a couple of things further, the situational-programming bit for example, but opted to cut them short - particularly in the story, because theyād have made it [even more] ridiculously long. Another day, another thread.
Hey Kygron, thanks for the review. Story of my life - too many laughs, too little substance .
Anyway, since you gave a very positive win-win vote, I think weāll accept it.
Score stands now at:
3-3.
I donāt know about you, but my nails are down to the quick.
I would like to state that I do not vote for Tab because he is right. Both Pav and Tab are wrong, however, Pav has failed in motivating his argument properly because he misunderstands he argument of Chaos theory, which is one AGAINST cause and effect. The reality of this problem is that causality exists in our minds and we cannot prove that it exists outside of our minds as well. Since this is the case we must separate between the noumenon and the phenomenon, which is what Tab is pointing towards: one thinking he chooses x, might be simply a computer program deluded into thinking it actually can choose or something. However, Tab does not make the proper jump towards the inapplicability of quantum indeterminacy to reality since it is a model and therefore applies the causal workings of our mind, as opposed to the reciprocity of reality.
Voting has concluded, and (only including votes that picked a favorite one way or another), Tab is the winner by a margin of 3-2.
Iād like to extend my congratulations to Tab as well as my gratitude for taking the time to participate in this Debate with me. I would also like to extend my gratitude to all who took the time to Judge this Debate as well as everyone who took the time to read it (even if they chose not to Judge).
I would also like to say that I consider it an honor to have this Debate come down to only one vote, going into this thing I thought that I was going to get crushed.
Iāll probably have more to say about this Debate in the next day or two, unfortunately, Iām kind of pressed for time at the moment.
I appreciate the sentiment, especially given the nature of Unsuperās vote because he admitted to not actually reading the Debate, but the fact that you are the winner has been decided.
I thought about accepting that proposition due to Unsuperās vote, but you didnāt have to let TheBertoās vote count either and you did, so, you are undisputedly the winner of this Debate!
In the words of the Terminator, though, āIāll be back!ā