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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby Aegean » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:56 pm

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I also do not think it was the original plan, but forced by the war's limitations. He wanted to throw them out of Germany...but how many people have done the same over the centuries?
They wanted to ship them off but nobody wanted to take them.

Therefore, Plan B.
I wonder why nobody wanted them if they offer such a benefit to a people.

The plan was Madagascar.
But after the war began how could he ship them off to that place?
Plan B was incarceration....mass death due to the consequences of confinement and increasingly lack of nutrition.
No doubt some mass extermination did begin during the time when he realized the war had turned.
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Postby phyllo » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:57 pm

Aegean wrote:Did you read what I posted?
You are using emotion.
Did I deny some form of mass extermination did occur?

I read this :
What makes you certain they did not die of diseases and famine - you know the usual things one dies from during times of war - and only a few of organized slaughter?

Some form of mass extermination did take place, but most of it through passive causes, like absence of food, or the usual diseases that occur in contained areas where too many people are placed in a small space....
Many Germans, and Russians also died due to malnutrition, and the same diseases that kill in such times of destruction and mass death.


And it suggests that there is little reason to believe in large scale gassing. Maybe even to the point that there is no evidence for gas chambers ... as Gloominary says.
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby Aegean » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:59 pm

I have nothing more to say on the issue, given the religious-like fanaticism associated with it.

You can continue to worship the official narrative, if you like. Just believe whatever they tell you, and never use your own judgment.
Doesn't matter.
History repeats.
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Postby Aegean » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:08 pm

More objective history is written as the events distance themselves form the participants.
It's a basic principle of objectivity. The closer, and more intimately tied to other, or to an event, the more subjective and emotional it is for you.

I'm waiting for the next Hollywood movie on it. It's long overdue. I think that they are intentionally giving it some time, because overexposure can be fatiguing. Like how they stopped Star Trek movies when they were losing money because they were making too many of them.
Marketing principle.
Distance makes the heart grow fonder.
It'll come. Victim status has to be maintained.
Finkelstein, a Jew, said that it has become a religion. Nothing unifies Jews more than the Holocaust. It has become a religious iconic event.
Like the Crucifixion is for Christians.
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby phyllo » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:30 pm

You can continue to worship the official narrative, if you like.
Okay. You can continue to worship your unofficial narrative, if you like.
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby WendyDarling » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:37 pm

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phyllo wrote:
I also do not think it was the original plan, but forced by the war's limitations. He wanted to throw them out of Germany...but how many people have done the same over the centuries?
They wanted to ship them off but nobody wanted to take them.

Therefore, Plan B.
I wonder why nobody wanted them if they offer such a benefit to a people.

The plan was Madagascar.
But after the war began how could he ship them off to that place?
Plan B was incarceration....mass death due to the consequences of confinement and increasingly lack of nutrition.
No doubt some mass extermination did begin during the time when he realized the war had turned.


Phyllo, why wouldn't any country take the Jews if they have always been innocent of unjust business practices and are highly productive and contributive without trying to overtake governments through a religion driven ideological conspiracy known as communism? How many nations have asked or forced them to leave?
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby Gloominary » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:47 pm

They continue to be expelled, their most recent one: 2014.

Orthodox Jews who fled from Canada after accusations of child sexual abuse expelled from Guatemala by the residents who accused them of not integrating within the culture and damaging the tourism based economy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsions_and_exoduses_of_Jews
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby WendyDarling » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:16 pm

phyllo wrote:
You can continue to worship the official narrative, if you like.
Okay. You can continue to worship your unofficial narrative, if you like.


Is it true that the victors write the history books?
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby phyllo » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:26 pm

Phyllo, why wouldn't any country take the Jews if they have always been innocent of unjust business practices and are highly productive and contributive without trying to overtake governments through a religion driven ideological conspiracy known as communism?
That's a loaded question. :o

Do they need to be completely innocent of unjust business practices or can they be just as guilty as some other identifiable group?

Are Jews trying to overtake governments through communism?

There appear to be a significant number of Jews who support capitalism. Ironically they are accused of being both ruthless capitalists and communists. :shock:

Are they solely behind communism or does communism appeal to non-Jews as well?
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby phyllo » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:28 pm

WendyDarling wrote:
phyllo wrote:
You can continue to worship the official narrative, if you like.
Okay. You can continue to worship your unofficial narrative, if you like.


Is it true that the victors write the history books?
Not entirely.

If you are going to say that the entire holocaust was fabricated by the victors, then you are out of touch with reality.
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby WendyDarling » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:13 pm

phyllo wrote:
You can continue to worship the official narrative, if you like.
Okay. You can continue to worship your unofficial narrative, if you like.


Is it true that the victors write the history books?[/quote]Not entirely.

If you are going to say that the entire holocaust was fabricated by the victors, then you are out of touch with reality.[/quote]

The Holocaust happened on a much smaller scale than has ever been purported. Other genocides have been larger in volume like the one in Russia perpetrated by the communist Jews. Have numerous movies and books been dedicated to that atrocity? Supposidly that genocide was tallied at 11 million non-Jewish Russians.

phyllo wrote:
Phyllo, why wouldn't any country take the Jews if they have always been innocent of unjust business practices and are highly productive and contributive without trying to overtake governments through a religion driven ideological conspiracy known as communism?
That's a loaded question. :o

Do they need to be completely innocent of unjust business practices or can they be just as guilty as some other identifiable group?

Are Jews trying to overtake governments through communism?

There appear to be a significant number of Jews who support capitalism. Ironically they are accused of being both ruthless capitalists and communists. :shock:

Are they solely behind communism or does communism appeal to non-Jews as well?


What other identifiable group is kicked out of country after country for such practices?

Yes, they are. Capitalism funds the leverage, but the overall push is towards communism with Jews at the helm.

Didn't Karl Marx, a Jew, pervert socialism converting it into communism? Communism appeals to sheeple and those who want to rule the sheeple.
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby promethean75 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:23 pm

It's a total perversion. Even the thought of those who produce controlling the means of production gives me hellish nightmares. Something like that'll happen over my dead body you sonofabitch commie pinko bastard!
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby phyllo » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:25 pm

The Holocaust happened on a much smaller scale than has ever been purported.
How do you know that?

Do you have some evidence that shows that the "official" numbers are exaggerated?
Other genocides have been larger in volume like the one in Russia perpetrated by the communist Jews. Have numerous movies and books been dedicated to that atrocity? Supposidly that genocide was tallied at 11 million non-Jewish Russians.
That doesn't alter the ethics of the Nazi holocaust. Nor does it alter the numbers in that holocaust.

Sure, Communists have done awful things in the Soviet Union and elsewhere.
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby Gloominary » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:26 pm

It's not about a particular ideology, it's trickier than that.
Many Jews are communists, many are crony capitalists, but what unites most of them is 1, their opposition to other people's nationalism, not their own people's nationalism, and 2, they don't want to labor, in crony capitalism they can siphon resources through corporatism, fractional reserve banking and usury, and in communism they can siphon resources by pointing a gun at your head and telling you what to do.
They want to lead all these movements so they serve their national interests.

They want internationalism for everyone else and nationalism for themselves.
At the very least they don't want the nations they occupy to exclude others based on culture, race and religion, but for most of them that's not nearly enough.
They want open borders, and to prop up minorities, particularly themselves, at the majority's expense.
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby WendyDarling » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:46 pm

phyllo wrote:
The Holocaust happened on a much smaller scale than has ever been purported.
How do you know that?

Do you have some evidence that shows that the "official" numbers are exaggerated?
Other genocides have been larger in volume like the one in Russia perpetrated by the communist Jews. Have numerous movies and books been dedicated to that atrocity? Supposidly that genocide was tallied at 11 million non-Jewish Russians.
That doesn't alter the ethics of the Nazi holocaust. Nor does it alter the numbers in that holocaust.

Sure, Communists have done awful things in the Soviet Union and elsewhere.


Why did you drop the Jewish part of the communist identifier? You don't believe that the Bolshevik uprising was dreamt up and organized by Jews and their financing, that the original communist party was led by Jews?

In the documentary, the 4 million number from the '80s Nuremberg trial was disproven, name and dates included, so how could it now be 6 million? In another twenty five years will the number grow to be 8 million or 10 million?

And I still don't know if this supposed 4 million includes all the other non-Jewish people rounded up and killed? Was it the Nazi Holocaust (including every prisoner) or the Jewish Holocaust? Where is this explained?
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby promethean75 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:55 pm

Lenin won't no sonsabitchin Jew!
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby Gloominary » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:57 pm

They're clowns, ideology is the makeup they wear.
It's about having one standard for themselves, and another for everyone else.
They want Israel to be xenophobic and every other nation to be xenophilic.
They want to practice crony capitalism (corporatism, fractional reverse banking, usury...) while we practice capitalism.
In communism, they want to be equally rich while we're equally poor.
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby WendyDarling » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:00 pm

promethean75 wrote:Lenin won't no sonsabitchin Jew!


He wasn't?

In a letter to Stalin in 1932 — six years after Lenin's death — Anna Ulyanova, Lenin's older sister, wrote that their maternal grandfather "came from a poor Jewish family and was, according to his baptismal certificate, the son of Moses Blank." Blank was born in Zhitomir, Ukraine. In her letter, Ulyanova said her brother "had always thought highly of Jews." She also urged Stalin to reveal Lenin's Jewish background, concluding that "it would be wrong to hide it from the masses."

http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2077413,00.html
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby promethean75 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:02 pm

Nope. Paper work means nothing. It's what's in your head that makes you a Jew.. and vlad didn't believe any of that nonsense.
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Postby WendyDarling » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:09 pm

promethean75 wrote:Nope. Paper work means nothing. It's what's in your head that makes you a Jew.. and vlad didn't believe any of that nonsense.

Of which nonsense are you speaking?
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby Gloominary » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:14 pm

And like ideology, they make use of religion.
While they hate Christianity, because pacifist and xenophilic Jesus was the opposite of what they imagined their messiah to be, they infiltrate it and emphasize its Zionism.
Their true religion and ideology is Judaism and Zionism, religious and secular Jewish supremacism.
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby phyllo » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:18 pm

Why did you drop the Jewish part of the communist identifier?
Which part? Is it significant?

Communists killed millions in China and Cambodia, etc. They were not Jews.
You don't believe that the Bolshevik uprising was dreamt up and organized by Jews and their financing, that the original communist party was led by Jews?
Lenin was not a Jew. Nor were many high ranking party members. Jews were disproportionately represented.

Lenin was also supported by the German High Command in order to undermine the Russian war effort.
In the documentary, the 4 million number from the '80s Nuremberg trial was disproven, name and dates included, so how could it now be 6 million? In another twenty five years will the number grow to be 8 million or 10 million?
You're basing everything on the David Cole documentary?

Is 4 million okay?

Let's say that I agree with that number. (Because frankly after passing a certain hideous point, the exact number no longer matters. It's horrific crime. )
Now what?
And I still don't know if this supposed 4 million includes all the other non-Jewish people rounded up and killed? Was it the Nazi Holocaust (including every prisoner) or the Jewish Holocaust? Where is this explained?
There are estimated numbers available for non-Jews. Like here :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holoc ... ersecution
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Postby WendyDarling » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:42 pm

phyllo wrote:
Why did you drop the Jewish part of the communist identifier?
Which part? Is it significant?Of course it's important since they started and directed the communist revolution. Can you describe your great upset about the communist Jews killing non-Jewish russians, presenting what a horrific crime it was as well?

Communists killed millions in China and Cambodia, etc. They were not Jews. Chinese communism was funded by the Jews, so I've been told. I'll ask if that was the case in Cambodia as well.
You don't believe that the Bolshevik uprising was dreamt up and organized by Jews and their financing, that the original communist party was led by Jews?
Lenin was not a Jew. Nor were many high ranking party members. Jews were disproportionately represented. He was a sympathetic Jew.

Lenin was also supported by the German High Command in order to undermine the Russian war effort.
In the documentary, the 4 million number from the '80s Nuremberg trial was disproven, name and dates included, so how could it now be 6 million? In another twenty five years will the number grow to be 8 million or 10 million?
You're basing everything on the David Cole documentary?

Is 4 million okay? Cole sited a name and date that the number was around 1 million or less.

Let's say that I agree with that number. (Because frankly after passing a certain hideous point, the exact number no longer matters. It's horrific crime. )
Now what?
And I still don't know if this supposed 4 million includes all the other non-Jewish people rounded up and killed? Was it the Nazi Holocaust (including every prisoner) or the Jewish Holocaust? Where is this explained?
There are estimated numbers available for non-Jews. Like here :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holoc ... ersecution
Thanks for the info. Was it the Nazi Holocaust or the Jewish Holocaust?
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Postby phyllo » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:55 pm

Can you describe your great upset about the communist Jews killing non-Jewish russians, presenting what a horrific crime it was as well?
??
I don't understand that question. What are you asking?
Chinese communism was funded by the Jews, so I've been told. I'll ask if that was the case in Cambodia as well.
I think that you are mistaken.
He was a sympathetic Jew.
What does that mean?
Cole sited a name and date that the number was around 1 million or less.
That number makes no sense. It's completely at odds with census data, train records, gas supplied, and structures and equipment in the camps.
Was it the Nazi Holocaust or the Jewish Holocaust?
Again, what does this mean?
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Re: Discussion: is Carleas secretly a white supremacist a na

Postby Gloominary » Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:00 am

This article is from a Jewish apologist website (it's hard to find articles from truly unbiased websites, since google has been subsidized by government and subverted, curtailing free speech), but nonetheless I'm going to use it to make a point.

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/273591/hanebrink-judeo-bolshevism

It’s the bad luck of the Jews, and a persistent shonde, that some of the most notorious Communists were members of the tribe: “Iron Lazar” Kaganovich, Stalin’s brutal henchman; Jakub Berman, head of the Polish secret police; Romania’s Ana Pauker (“Stalin in a skirt”); and of course Exhibit A, Leon Trotsky. Like most of the other Red firebrands, Lev Davidovich Bronstein declared his Jewish identity meaningless. But maybe it wasn’t. For one thing, Communism promised to solve the Jewish question in a way that other movements could not. World revolution, unlike Bundism and Zionism (both more popular options among Eastern European Jews), offered an escape from Jewishness in the name of universal humanity, and at the same time satisfied the classically Jewish prophetic urge.
It shouldn’t be verboten to speak of a certain Jewish aptitude for Communism. The historian Yuri Slezkine busted that taboo in his masterwork The Jewish Century when he suggested that the notorious image of the Jewish commissar was more than just an anti-Semitic smear. Jews combined “relentless rationalism and exuberant messianism” and so made excellent revolutionaries, Slezkine wrote. Slezkine sensibly remarked that “most radicals were not Jews and most Jews were not radicals, but the proportion of radicals among Jews was, on average, much higher than among their non-Jewish neighbors.” Seven out of 10 members of the original leadership of the Polish Communist movement were Jewish, and in the 1930s Jews made up about 65 percent of all Warsaw Communists, 75 percent of the Polish Party’s propaganda apparatus, and 90 percent of MOPR, Poland’s international Communist relief organization. We can keep such facts in mind, Slezkine argued, and still avoid sliding into the anti-Semitic slander that Bolshevism was a Jewish plot.
The revolutionary spirit that seized some Jews and many more non-Jews in the early years of the 20th century has led to all kinds of trouble, not least for the Jews themselves. In the early 20th century, Slezkine wrote, Jews looked like a vanguard people, modernity incarnate. But a trapdoor loomed for the Jews: Modernity now meant nationalism, the new opiate of the people, “states that posed as tribes.” A head-on collision resulted between nationalism and the Jews in which the latter suddenly looked like the enemies of the newly chosen people, the Germans, Poles, Hungarians, and Romanians. Despite the Jews’ strenuous devotion to the national gentile cultures, their love for Goethe, Mickiewicz, Petöfi, they were still suspect, rootless aliens. Jews came to represent the evil, corrosive side of modernity, string-pullers of international capital and media, and worst of all, ready to destroy one’s nation in the name of global Communism.

Enter the myth of Judeo-Bolshevism, capably explored by Paul Hanebrink in his new book, A Specter Haunting Europe. For many Europeans in the late 1910s, the face of Communist revolution was Jewish. Short-lived revolutions swept across Eastern and Central Europe in the wake of the Bolshevik coup, and many of the leaders were Jews or half-Jews, like Hungary’s Bela Kun and Bavaria’s Kurt Eisner. Like Rosa Luxemburg in Berlin, Eisner was no Bolshevik, but that didn’t matter. After these revolutions collapsed, Jews were blamed for the chaos and bloodshed.
Granted, Jews were overrepresented in a few Communist regimes. There is still a huge leap between this fact and the anti-Semitic notion, sharply on the rise in today’s Eastern Europe, that “the Jews” were responsible for Communism, and that they should be unmasked as aggressors, not merely innocent victims of the Nazis.

Rosa Luxemburg wasn't a Bolshevik, but only because she was a German Jew, not a Russian Jew.
She was still a communist.


No one denies Jews were vastly overrepresented in European and Russian communism.
The question is, was the majority of communist leadership in Europe and Russia Jewish?
At the very least, Jews made up a large minority of the leadership, like 20-30%, if not the majority of the leadership.
And the founders of the movement were Jewish.
So if Jews didn't exist, neither would communism, or at least its most successful variant, Marxism, and without Jewish leadership, it wouldn't've been anywhere near as successful in Europe and Russia as it was, it may've never took off at all, and if it didn't take off in Europe and Russia, it wouldn't've taken off in the 3rd world.

Are all Muslims terrorists?
Are all terrorists Muslims?
No, but so what?
Per capita they commit more terrorism than anyone else.
If you deport Muslims, per capita terrorism substantially declines.
Likewise if you deport Jews, per capita communism in addition to anticonservatism, antinationalism (because these people aren't just unconservative and unnationalistic, they're anticonservative and antinationalistic) and crony capitalism substantially decline.

Furthermore, just because not every Muslim commits terrorism, doesn't mean many or most of them don't support it, one way or another.
Not every Jew commits communism, but many or most of them supported it, or some other scheme to erode our monetary, national and social integrity.

Jews love ideologies, but one ideology they never get into is nationalism (save their own nationalism, Zionism).
They like international crony socialism and libertarianism, but not national socialism and libertarianism, especially ethnonational, for they're an ungrateful minority, and they do everything to undermine it.
They resent others having their own home, because until recently they haven't had one.
Furthermore they require unrestricted access to our home to siphon its resources.
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