Is a sockpuppet of banned user to be allowed to stay here?

The user “rununder” is actually the user “Atthet”. I can prove this too, from personal messages. Since “Atthet” was banned, why hasn’t “rununder” been banned?

If a sockpuppet is under a ban no. I am pretty sure that rule is universal. However if a user comes back after the ban is over I am pretty sure, as sure can be they can still post. That said, you can’t really ban anyone anyway, there are always ways and means to come back under any ban and it’s very easy to do. It’s quite hard for the mods to track users, so it might well be that he’s just using some means that makes his IP something other than the original if he is still banned. It’s just not a medium you can really police effectively.

If these sleezy, obsessive stalkers can just come back over and over again, why should I wish to continue to post here?

You can put them on ignore, or as it is called here ‘foe’. you have to identify them or at least recognize the type, so it does slow down the process if they come back with Another name, but it is fairly easy once you realize you do not want to communicate with them to just make them invisible.

Maia and I haven’t sent PM in weeks. Plus she already put me on ignore. She’s just doing this, now, because she’s butt hurt about the magick thread where nobody believed in her dowsing and ritual experiments.

Hell hath no wrath like a woman scorned. She wants revenge, to get me banned, for shattering her dreams. Even though 100% of the philosophy forum was trying to tell her the same thing I was saying. Now she’s desperate and wants to use blind, empty accusations without merit, which she can’t even prove by the way.

Although I can understand her compulsion here. She doesn’t want anybody shattering her dreams about believing in magick. But, this is lame and desperate, in my opinion. She’s trying to bring personal matters into it. Again, we haven’t sent PMs in weeks. She already has me on ignore. And I have no plans to contact her again, regardless. She just wants to get in all the low blow shots she can, for revenge, nothing more.

I don’t plan on participating in anymore of her stupid threads [exception being this one since I’m justified to defend myself in a court of law], anyway. She can believe whatever black voodoo magick she wants to. She doesn’t need to listen to me. She’s not going to listen to anybody else here, anyway.

Whateve.

See that’s where the system works, if they just behave the same way as they did before their IP is no defence they will be banned under that IP too, assuming said behaviour is against forum rules, and of course if they are that obvious about it they will identify themselves as a sockpuppet anyway, and if under a ban be banned again. Avoiding being banned assumes that you don’t just then go on to act in the same way you did before, highlighting yourself as whomever you were before. The difficulty of course comes in assessing if x is indeed y, but if x is y who was banned for z, 9/10 they will be banned for z again.

I shouldn’t let people like that get to me I suppose.

Hell I think we all have things that get to us, I think the only people who pretend that nothing gets to them are pople who think they are mercilessly cool for not having an emotional quotient or being virtually Aspergers for having no understanding for emotion, and trolls which are often the same thing, and hence they are the weakest of all, because they are the easiest to wind up, to make angry and to frustrate, the irony is precious, Naricisstic personality disorder that most trolls and so called, oh I am so not caring about things people are the least able to able to take critism of any internet denizen ( because they make every effort to remove themselves from emotion and hence lose the ability to deal), which is of course the ultimate in justice. Weak people though do like pointing out the flaws in others, it is what the incorigable waning feeble person does to try and make themselves feel better about their inadequacies, turn the criticism on them and you often find they explode. Trolls do not and can not take criticism at all well, it’s their Achilles heel, it’s almost universally true. Doesn’t that make you feel better that the most abusive incorrigible tards on the net are also the weakest most inefectual and feeble people on the web. It should. :wink: :smiley:

I haz cheezburger, who the fuck cares, get a life. When you actually do grow up, get some friends too, trust me you’ll be better off without being a cnut in the long run. If you want to gain acceptance by beeing edgy and out there and not mainstream, please don’t just do what every other troll army does on every over interweb site, and hence prove that you are no more out there or edgy than the average robot, hell a true individual would never join a herd of troll idiots, which is what they are, you’re just a big kine magnet dog pile, no one cares. :-"

I got carried away there, but trolls kinda are dumb, and it isn’t said enough just how conformist, fascile and mediocre their whole thing is, it’s getting beyond boring, it’s now into mundane and just a waste of anyone who matters time. :slight_smile:

Anyhoo back to reality that matters, if he is who is then just use the ignore feature.

You do not come here to be objectified but to objectify ideas, so I apologise to you for being subjected to the likes of Atthet and Contra.

I am amazed that I can be researching mountain myths in the Zargos Mountains and come across this fucking thread of Magsj dissing me nearly 6 months after I quit this site. Its like the 4th time since I quit this site its popped up in my searches… and none of it useful or relevant.

Atteth and I never got along. He’s a bored college intellectual with feelings of inadequacy created at some past point due to immasculation, like the bulk of the cuckold-overman dual bound Nietzscheans here. Its a sad inversion of the whore-madonna paradox inverted upon the male identity. Its sad and pathetic, yet despite its childish veneer, is still highly complex.

I only know of two Nietzscheans who tried to break this pattern, Sauwelios and and that other dutch nietzschean that hangs out with Pezer… I cant ever remember his name. In Sauwelios, case, he advocates a De Sade- Nietzschean sexual Sadism, while tossing Neo-Nazis mystical mus from savitri devi (dont believe me, google sauwelious, savitri devi or his posts on whipping and punishing people). The other dutch Nietzschean, who I can never remember the name of, appears psychologically stable for reasons I cant understand. He has a healthy respect for the opposite sex.

I’m opposed to immasculation and defeminization of males or females as a academic or governmental means to a end. Both are sexual strategies that work. They are not universal, and one can quite easily fing poly-amorous or transgender examples from around the world and in various primate species… Ive pointed out Marco Polos sexual observations several times here, of the small odd enclave societies he visited in central asia that fucked and thought exotically, as well as pointed out several different marriage traditions within historic christianity.

The confusion stemmed from two factors, Magsj’s incredibly fucking low IQ and inability to discriminate rhetorical trends and paradox (a Cynic pattern to debate, I didnt invent it), and Maias newness. I am not Atteth, if anything, if anything I fucked with him worst than anyone here.

I think people should have the freedom to explore their own sexual strategies. Sexuality is, shockingly, the foundation of the state. It encompasses the entirity of our outlook. Every social relation is determined through this prism. The family is a by product of sexuality (a heterosexual result of the seperation of powers between nomilally heterosexuals, gorillas have a different kind of family, the bisexual spartan emphasis on the phallanx-polis another, the israeli kibbutz another, the clan structure of the polyamorous celts yet another, that substantially differs from the judeo-christian pattern.

The point of concern in discriminating between sexual strategies is the calculas of long tern survival. Take sweden for example, its highly agnostic (less because christianity is dying there and more because it never quite took root there) and only recently became the center for feminist, of the male hating variety. Strip clubs are not allowed, men cant find a woman to marry, as women arent interested in marriage given the de jure safety net, and its considered archaic and demeaning. Whats the end result? Despite sweden having a high birth rate compared to other european countries, its still not sustainable. It’s 1.77 children per couple, and those couples dont last very long… given they are not married, and the children are noted to be much more psychologically unstable than the offspring from children from married swedes.

You add to this the high rate of cheating women engadge in sweden (one sociologist said swedish girls cheat with up to 12 partners on average while maintaining one solid, continious partner) you’ll find many of these long term, monagamous males effectively cheated out of reproducing, unknown to them. Add to this swedens rapidly growing unemployment rate, homeless problems, and dramatic widening income gap between the rich and poor (much higher than the US, dont believe me, look it up), you can understand my deep caution to blindly accepting feminism blindly. Sweden is suppost to be the most feminist and equal nation in the world, but its also one of the most unequal and sexuallb

… sexually backwards. Their children are increasingly more and more fucked up, they cant keep their measily 4 million population number stagnant, so have to constantly import new immigrants, then they form neo-nazis paramilitary groups in the backwoods to wage a race war against the immigrants who keep them afloat!

Yeah, thats feminism in its best sense, following its silly as fuck cause and effect sequencing. I used sweden here cause its always everyones favorite utopian example of perfect socialism and modern feminism. Its merely devolving into its opposite.

I support sustainable feminism, as well as a sustainable masculinity. In big populations like china, I would encourage homosexuality over say, abortion to lower the population. In Russia, I support the russians efforts to gently suppress it. Why? In one case a explosive demographics explosion, in the other, a demographics collapse that threatens to wipe out that population in a few generations.

I.want the most humane, mutually advantegeous outcome in each case, without leading to brutality, enslavement, the cheapening of life or the disregard of peoples individual aspirations. Like gandhi, I promote ‘the stairway to sirius’. I recognize that people, some at least, will always go agsinst the flow for their own happiness. So be it, it is their sexual strategy. However, we shouldnt be tormented to the ideals of a wretched few ideologues. Not my ideas, nor anyone else. Survival is what matters.

As a Cynic, my approach is to juxtaposition assertions of society against our own prejudice and impulse. One of the methods Cynics use is shocking exposition and mockery. Its one of them, there are others.

Whats important to understand is this, any real philosopher is a incredibly complex figure, and cant be understood at face value, or merely as a threat to your own inherited beliefs. They may disagree with you one one level, and yet agree with you on another. They should be understood on the basis of their whole.

Hence why medieval hate mongers like Magsj have no place in philosophy. How can you moderate a mere portion of the dialectic and claim to achieve results superior to the natural conversation? This website only discusses a grand whopping total of 4 topics, repackaged over and over again. Its pure stagnation, a absolute stalemate. I just looked the forum over,same shit again and again.

This is what happens when the chief intellectual obsession is who to ban, or what posts to delete. Its why I quit this site, got

Calm down.

Oh, stewie, I felt bad about never talking to you. My email is mercurydawn@hotmail.com

Okay… Im banning everyone again, got shit to do, bye for a very very long time. Try to come up with new ideas in the meantime, and stop banning each other. And magsj, get some psychological help, your 80 percent of the reason why this site sucks so bad. Look ay the posts from 8 years ago, and look at them now. Quality is way, way down, not up. Its delusional to think your moderation is positive, when ghe results clearly show otherwise.

Back to my Zargos search.

Contra, why did you leave?

I consider youtube to be more educational than ILP.
I’m guessing you didn’t find ILP educational enough, but I’m not sure what you’re thinking.

Playing the world’s smallest violin over here for you Maia.

She believes in magick? HaHaHaHa!

Watching too much Harry Potter I guess. Kids these days…

I actually thought you were him at first, and although I no longer think so, I’ve been known to be wrong. Your writing styles, though equally moronic, are subtly different, and your political views, though equally childish, also have tiny points of difference.

Give it up girly. You’re not at all philosophical. Come to think of it, I’ve never have seen any of your threads here. Do you even read any philosophy books whatsoever? You couldn’t stand up to a debate with me.

Go back home to mum and dad girly.

I have better things to do than read philosophy books. I don’t even know if any are in accessible format. I also have better things to do that debate with you, such as listening to paint drying.

People really don’t appreciate the serenity of listening to paint dry.