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Let’s chat about the atheist religion.

Postby Greatest I am » Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:19 pm

Let’s chat about the atheist religion.

Believers in the mainstream god religions often denigrate and discriminate against atheists, non-believers and rival religions on moral grounds. Godless mean without a moral sense to them.

I seek a solution to this problem, as the godless, statistically speaking, seem more moral, law abiding and peaceful than traditional mainstream religious believers who, ironically, claim a superior moral position, while having an inferior one. Statistics are quite clear on this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdtwTeBPYQA

As a Gnostic Christian, I get it from both sides. From believers who see me as an atheist and from atheists who see me as a believer. Both sides are wrong, given that Gnostic Christians are esoteric ecumenist and free-thinking naturalist, --- who hold no supernatural beliefs, --- regardless of the lies put into history by the inquisitors who decimated us, --- but never annihilated us. We are a religion of perpetual seekers of knowledge and wisdom, who raise the bar of excellence whenever we think we have the best ideological position.

This prevents the idol worshiping of the immoral gods, that the mainstream religions are prone to follow. This makes Gnostic Christianity a superior ideology. Perhaps this open-mindedness explains the hate towards us from god believers, as well as towards atheists and other non-believers that believers target.

Solutions to this endless denigration and discrimination are hard to come by, given that governments are not promoting any kind of dialog between the various religions and non-believers and allow religions to continue promoting vile homophobic and misogynous teachings.

To my way of thinking, be you following a theology and named god, a philosophy of a named philosopher, a religion that puts man above god and focuses on knowledge and wisdom like mine, a political tribe like Democrats and Republican, statism or any other thinking system, --- all groups named are following an ideology, --- and can thus be seem and described as a religion.

It is thus proper English to call atheism a religion. In fact, given the stats, atheism is a more moral religion than most. I am thinking that if all atheist proudly took on the religion label, --- as their atheist churches are doing, --- more god believing religionist would likely opt for atheism as their religion so as to improve their moral sense.

Take your deserved bow my atheist friends. You are now second only to my own Gnostic Christianity. We Gnostic Christian did what I advise here before the inquisitors got to us and that may be why we were known as the only good Christians.

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Re: Let’s chat about the atheist religion.

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:30 pm

You’re an idiot. Sorry for being so harsh.

Beings that have actual power have no titles. “Christian” is derived from the Greek “Christos”, which simply means: “anointed one” (usually by oil) a title for ALL nobility back then!!

Actually, by name itself, satan (not LORD satan) is a holier being than LORD god!

But again, you’re a moron.

I hope you take this message to heart and carry it with you.

Titles man!! Think about it.
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Re: Let’s chat about the atheist religion.

Postby Greatest I am » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:31 pm

Ecmandu wrote:You’re an idiot. Sorry for being so harsh.

Beings that have actual power have no titles. “Christian” is derived from the Greek “Christos”, which simply means: “anointed one” (usually by oil) a title for ALL nobility back then!!

Actually, by name itself, satan (not LORD satan) is a holier being than LORD god!

But again, you’re a moron.

I hope you take this message to heart and carry it with you.

Titles man!! Think about it.


Thanks for the intelligent reply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNcRXeCzpno

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Re: Let’s chat about the atheist religion.

Postby Greatest I am » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:31 pm

Atheists Are Sometimes More Religious Than Christians
A new study shows how poorly we understand the beliefs of people who identify as atheist, agnostic, or nothing in particular.

Americans are deeply religious people—and atheists are no exception. Western Europeans are deeply secular people—and Christians are no exception.

These twin statements are generalizations, but they capture the essence of a fascinating finding in a new study about Christian identity in Western Europe. By surveying almost 25,000 people in 15 countries in the region, and comparing the results with data previously gathered in the U.S., the Pew Research Center discovered three things.

First, researchers confirmed the widely known fact that, overall, Americans are much more religious than Western Europeans. They gauged religious commitment using standard questions, including “Do you believe in God with absolute certainty?” and “Do you pray daily?”

Second, the researchers found that American “nones”—those who identify as atheist, agnostic, or nothing in particular—are more religious than European nones. The notion that religiously unaffiliated people can be religious at all may seem contradictory, but if you disaffiliate from organized religion it does not necessarily mean you’ve sworn off belief in God, say, or prayer.

The third finding reported in the study is by far the most striking. As it turns out, “American ‘nones’ are as religious as—or even more religious than—Christians in several European countries, including France, Germany, and the U.K.”

“That was a surprise,” Neha Sahgal, the lead researcher on the study, told me. “That’s the comparison that’s fascinating to me.” She highlighted the fact that whereas only 23 percent of European Christians say they believe in God with absolute certainty, 27 percent of American nones say this.

America is a country so suffused with faith that religious attributes abound even among the secular. Consider the rise of “atheist churches,” which cater to Americans who have lost faith in supernatural deities but still crave community, enjoy singing with others, and want to think deeply about morality. It’s religion, minus all the God stuff. This is a phenomenon spreading across the country, from the Seattle Atheist Church to the North Texas Church of Freethought. The Oasis Network, which brings together non-believers to sing and learn every Sunday morning, has affiliates in nine U.S. cities.

Last month, almost 1,000 people streamed into a [Atheist] church in San Francisco for an unprecedented event billed as “Beyoncé Mass.” Most were people of color and members of the LGBTQ community. Many were secular. They used Queen Bey’s songs, which are replete with religious symbolism, as the basis for a communal celebration—one that had all the trappings of a religious service. That seemed completely fitting to some, including one reverend who said, “Beyoncé is a better theologian than many of the pastors and priests in our church today.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...t ... ns/560936/

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Re: Let’s chat about the atheist religion.

Postby Gloominary » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:34 am

I'm an irreligious agnostic, but it's far too safe, blasé and redundant for me to criticize Christianity and organized religion in general in the 21st century.
There's much, much bigger fish...
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Re: Let’s chat about the atheist religion.

Postby Greatest I am » Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:55 pm

Gloominary wrote:I'm an irreligious agnostic, but it's far too safe, blasé and redundant for me to criticize Christianity and organized religion in general in the 21st century.
There's much, much bigger fish...


A free man.

What is the first duty of a free man, if not to insure that all are free?

Are you doing your duty for women and gays?

Half the population being discriminated against without a just cause is a rather large fish. No?

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