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Re: Wholeness

Postby felix dakat » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:11 pm

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felix dakat wrote:I'm as agnostic about astrology as anything. But I acknowledge the possible archetypal nature of it's imagery including a coming Aquarian paradisical age and the enticing curl of an Aries woman's lips. Plus I have a deep seated intuition about the epochal turning of the age this year. It is as if the I am that I am has sent the angel of death that hovers over the planet invisible yet dark making people sick, taking lives at will and moving ever closer to my little circle of family and friends.

The way I'm looking at archetypal symbols is not taking any of them literally, but looking at them all as images whereby the objective psyche of deep brain structures represents the unknown and unknowable ultimate reality.

Much like physics, there is nothing symbolic about whats at the heart of astrology. Symbols carry its truths into our mind, like all language (math in case of physics). Life is not at heart a symbolic process merely because we use symbols to address it, though Lacan might beg to differ.

Astonishingly to me, a raised atheist and scientist, everything I predict comes true with uncanny accuracy. All chart readings I ever did were met with surprised 'whoa, thats weirdly accurate' - all except one, namely a guy here, world war III angry, but he was so pissed off a me at the time that he may just have been pretending, though what I really figure is, my reading didn't allow him to hold on to his victim mentality. I showed him that what he has is more than what most have, and he didn't like that.

To me, Felix you gotta understand, someone who doesn't take astrology literally is what, to Newton were the people who didn't believe in such regularities as he had proven to exist. It is a form of ignorance of natural law which takes on a certain pride, it doesn't want to be replaced with knowledge. Prometheans psyche is rigidly kneaded in terms of such reluctance. It is understandable. A friend of mine, when I showed him his progressions, said "this is way too accurate, I don't like it". He felt it infringed on his free will.

Knowledge - you have to actually have a passion for it. I see that you do, and I dont think you would zealously hold on to your ignorance if confronted with your own natal chart - then again, most people who dislike astrology simply refuse to put it (and thereby themselves) to the test, just as in general "the best boatsmen stand ashore", as we say here.

The age of Aquarius, or Horus, wont be a paradisiacal age so much as an age of extreme intelligence. Ive long ago called it "the age of the immediate mind". It will be immensely tough but far less hypocritical than the age of Pisces.



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Re: Wholeness

Postby felix dakat » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:44 pm

After death on the cross Christ went into the underworld and became Hell. So he took on the form of the Antichrist, the dragon. The image of the Antichrist, which has come down to us from the ancients, announces the new God, whose coming the ancients had foreseen.

C. G. Jung. The Red Book: A Reader's Edition (Philemon) (Kindle Locations 3068-3070). W. W. Norton & Company. Kindle Edition.



Here the Shadow takes on theological significance according to the principle of enantiodromia "a thing psychically transmogrifies into its shadow opposite, in the repression of psychic forces that are thereby cathected into something powerful and threatening." This principle was explicitly understood and discussed in in Taoism and yin-yang and by Heraclitus. Yang becomes yin when it reaches its extreme, and vice versa.
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Re: Wholeness

Postby felix dakat » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:09 pm

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Accessing the imaginal in personal experience is critical to progress in unitive consciousness.
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Re: Wholeness

Postby Fixed Cross » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:26 pm

Felix you seem ruthless. From your chart.

What Im speaking to is tightly conjunct Mars and Saturn in the fifth house and tightly conjunct Venus and Vesta on the MC.
You seem to go in hard for pleasures and relaxation, probably very hard for you to relax into simple joy, go into games with extreme force and seriousness. That is, if youre anywhere near Ingham which is what Ive used for the charts place. Could be it falls in your 6th house, then you are just a ruthless worker.

Jupiter is on 0 degrees Aquarius, just past your Venus-Vesta (Hitler, Escobar, Mandela, Lincoln, Edward Norton, Bach have that) which is being activated this year and ones around it by this very Pluto-Jupiter-Saturn conjunction Ive been speaking of so much. They're all hovering over that degree. Until 2024, you will be going through very transformative processes and you will find how fucking though you are with your values more and more. Around the coming winter solstice Jupiter will conjunct your natal Jupiter. "Jupiter return". Celebrate, honour ZEUS/EL, you wont regret.

Im just telling you the two most remarkable aspects, not gonna go into Sun, Moon, Ascendant, all that stuff you can get free from engines. These things tend to bore me. I am mostly in it for aspects, which are the most objective elements in astrology. [E.g. "Full Moon" is the aspect of "Sun opposite Moon" - we have known the reality of aspects since we were walking on 4 feet]

More stuff you wont find: Your Dragons Head is in the 12th house (I can feel some jokes bubbling in the nihilists) along with Moon and Dark Moon Lilith - meaning you haven't been aware of your emotions mostly in life because they've been forbidden and they already were unconscious even before they were forbidden - and only gradually discovering how awesome they are and that they ae a path.

So - people have probably foolishly fucked with you and you probably took it out on yourself and your environment - with a conflicted nature before sex, games, children, creative drives, that forcefulness could be quite puritanical mixed with the MC connection -
ok the moon brings it into focus more -
your Moon by the way is on the Chiron (look that one up) of both Jung and myself on 27 degrees Aries - it will ben good for you to read ad much of Jung and myself (seems to be the case) as you can get your hands on.

This discovery of Moon-Lilith in the world of the warrior-shaman will keep releasing hard patterns and releasing, finally, fruits of your very hard struggle. These fruits are shamanic, mystical, godly.
The work you forge out of what you are going through these years will be seen.


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Re: Wholeness

Postby Fixed Cross » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:51 pm

Jupiter is deeply philanthropic and friendly in 0 Aquarius and optimistic as hell. Normally such a thing would be quite dominant in a chart. But with two tight very explosive conjunctions, I would estimate it fall to the background somewhat and obsessions become possible, -
in any case the spiritual compass is sound, Jupiter is auspiciously placed, also partaking in the square to moon by Venus-Vesta,
your war for values awakens you to your moon - quite elementary, Jung would have enjoyed you as a patient, as things have the power to develop fruitfully over a prolonged course -

Mars-Saturn in V can be seen as the plough, I presume.
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Re: Wholeness

Postby felix dakat » Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:00 pm

Thank you fixed cross. So much there to unpack and assimilate. And although the subject matter is relevant to the pursuit of wholeness, given the personal nature of the subject matter, I will contact you privately if I need further clarification. Again, I appreciate your generosity in providing this info.
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Re: Wholeness

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:12 pm

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Re: Wholeness

Postby felix dakat » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:15 pm

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You're welcome Felix.


Ah the torch bearer! The bringer of insight-- gnosis--knowledge that transforms and heals. Insight that brings reunion with one's own soul. Cognitive, sexual and mystical union at once. Union through separation. In order to look at a thing it must be at a distance. Cognitive distance is the presupposition of cognitive union. Otherwise the whole is undifferentiated. Such is the unconscious--the unknown.

It is the image that brings gnosis. It is the recognition of the image for what it is that brings wisdom. The knower observes the autonomy of the spontaneous images of his own mind. Thereby he recognizes them for what they are---for who they are. Thus he can become released from their possession to walk among them as among the trees in the garden of the soul. They and he are all expressions of the One--the Self as the figures in a dream are expressions of the dreamer.
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Re: Wholeness

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:11 pm

Fixed Cross is anything but THE torch bearer!

Gnosis, astrology and tarot are the jokes of slaves.

Be will, pure will!

When you are, you’ll laugh at the slaves of determinism (for a moment) and then you’ll sober up and realize how tragic they are. And then it’s not funny at all.

Fixed Cross has an extremely primitive mind, we are all pattern seeking animals! Fuck that! Forge your own future! That’s freedom.
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Re: Wholeness

Postby felix dakat » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:18 pm

Ecmandu wrote:Fixed Cross is anything but THE torch bearer!

Gnosis, astrology and tarot are the jokes of slaves.

Be will, pure will!

When you are, you’ll laugh at the slaves of determinism (for a moment) and then you’ll sober up and realize how tragic they are. And then it’s not funny at all.

Fixed Cross has an extremely primitive mind, we are all pattern seeking animals! Fuck that! Forge your own future! That’s freedom.


Well damn! And here I thought I was getting somewhere. :(

Crowley is that you?
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Re: Wholeness

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:29 pm

felix dakat wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:Fixed Cross is anything but THE torch bearer!

Gnosis, astrology and tarot are the jokes of slaves.

Be will, pure will!

When you are, you’ll laugh at the slaves of determinism (for a moment) and then you’ll sober up and realize how tragic they are. And then it’s not funny at all.

Fixed Cross has an extremely primitive mind, we are all pattern seeking animals! Fuck that! Forge your own future! That’s freedom.


Well damn! And here I thought I was getting somewhere. :(


Felix,

The rabbit hole of mystics does have an end.

The rabbit holes (Alice in Wonderland) don’t go on forever!

You’ll eventually realize that the stars are jokes to laugh at!
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Re: Wholeness

Postby Fixed Cross » Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:56 pm

Kek. Why do I always have such dirtbags among my groupies?
Im glad Im gradually educating this unwashed one here in the principles of will though, making him abandon his pathetic (and psychopathic) consent violation ontology.
How many such men have I healed? I lost count. This age provides us with a lot of such cases, seemingly lost until they perceive the Philosopher.

No one other the me has this effect on men, making them obsessed, transforming them through sheer depth of thought, which before they saw me in action they did not suspect could exist.
They are at once grateful and envious, but as they are unwashed, their envy is stronger. Envy is the most powerful of the seven sins. Ive been attacked by the envious ever since I can remember.

It is called "the evil eye".
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Re: Wholeness

Postby Fixed Cross » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:15 pm

One might say the shadow of an influential spirit extends beyond himself - my own shadow includes the struggle toward the light of such patients as ecmandu and satyr.

The central challenge for them is to come into a proper awareness of Value: moving from envy (valuing my gifts but not being able to accept that, for example because I am just a man and not God) to gratitude; valuing my gifts and dealing with the fact that they owe something - if not to me, to the cosmos which brought them to me.

If they understand that they owe something, they are going to be driven to give something to this cosmos, to create, to love.

I think a good part of why I have been able to learn so much of value s because I have no problem revering my teachers. I don't feel I should be rebellious to someone who gives me a power. Most men are too small-hearted to receive gifts in the awareness of receiving a gift. But, as has been demonstrated here earlier, not all men I teach are small-hearted.

However, it is quite obviously going to be better for me and my students and patients if I cease giving away my teachings for free. It is said by a Shaman I admire that, to ask money for services, keeps out the ego - people are better able to receive their gifts because they paid for it.
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Re: Wholeness

Postby felix dakat » Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:16 pm

"The rediscovery of soul through psychopathology reigns supreme over all psychotherapy's other achievements: cultural , social, methodological, philosophical."

James Hillman, Re-visioning psychology" page 106
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Re: Wholeness

Postby Ecmandu » Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:24 pm

Fixed cross ... I actually don’t think you’re a very intelligent person. I’m not envious of idiots. Being intelligent is it’s own reward (there’s a certain bliss to it, where you have fun being in your own head - the stupid don’t have this bliss). Also. I know for a fact you don’t want your consent violated.

I have nothing to prove to you. Life will prove me correct.
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Re: Wholeness

Postby felix dakat » Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:16 am

Ecmandu wrote:Fixed cross ... I actually don’t think you’re a very intelligent person. I’m not envious of idiots. Being intelligent is it’s own reward (there’s a certain bliss to it, where you have fun being in your own head - the stupid don’t have this bliss). Also. I know for a fact you don’t want your consent violated.

I have nothing to prove to you. Life will prove me correct.


Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.
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Re: Wholeness

Postby Ecmandu » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:05 am

felix dakat wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:Fixed cross ... I actually don’t think you’re a very intelligent person. I’m not envious of idiots. Being intelligent is it’s own reward (there’s a certain bliss to it, where you have fun being in your own head - the stupid don’t have this bliss). Also. I know for a fact you don’t want your consent violated.

I have nothing to prove to you. Life will prove me correct.


Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.


If you’re lucky, everything is not permitted.

I always tell people that it’s much easier to break something or completely ruin something than it is to maintain or fix something!

In regards to your quote Felix. If existence were about the path of least resistance (like water flows) we’d all be in hell forever (destroying and ruining - easiest thing to do!)
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Re: Wholeness

Postby felix dakat » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:24 am

Ecmandu wrote:If existence were about the path of least resistance (like water flows) we’d all be in hell forever...


How do you know we're not?
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Re: Wholeness

Postby Ecmandu » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:38 am

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Ecmandu wrote:If existence were about the path of least resistance (like water flows) we’d all be in hell forever...


How do you know we're not?


Thats the sad part: we are. Most people haven’t figured it out yet!

There is no heaven if even one person suffers. Most people can’t know or feel that yet.
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Re: Wholeness

Postby felix dakat » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:38 am

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felix dakat wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:If existence were about the path of least resistance (like water flows) we’d all be in hell forever...


How do you know we're not?


Thats the sad part: we are. Most people haven’t figured it out yet!

There is no heaven if even one person suffers. Most people can’t know or feel that yet.


So for you it's all or nothing.
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Re: Wholeness

Postby Ecmandu » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:33 am

Because I’m an empath, yes, it’s all or nothing to me.

Not everyone is an empath. It’s nonsense for an empath to say something ‘normal’ such as “what a nice day today”
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Re: Wholeness

Postby felix dakat » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:55 pm

Ecmandu wrote:Because I’m an empath, yes, it’s all or nothing to me.

Not everyone is an empath. It’s nonsense for an empath to say something ‘normal’ such as “what a nice day today”


Well of course I don't know you, but there is a lot of evidence that all or nothing thinking is a cognitive distortion that results in an unrealistic approach to life. This is because life is rarely completely either one way or the other. No one is absolutely brilliant or totally stupid. Absolutes do not exist in the phenomenal world. Dichotomous thinking is a perceptual error. Does being an "empath" mean you are stuck with an unrealistic way of looking at the world that doesn't work?
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Re: Wholeness

Postby felix dakat » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:02 pm

Basic psychodynamics of wholeness. Psychical structure whether in normal or pathological development is an outcome of contraries--the resolution of incompatible aims or dispositions. The developing self is the referent of a sense of coherence, continuity and integrity at every stage of life.
There are two countervailing components of selfhood. One is the centrifugal assertion of personal autonomy. The other is a centripetal requirement of being integrated and a needed part of a larger more encompassing social unit.
No wonder the cross is a central archetype of existence.
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Re: Wholeness

Postby Ecmandu » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:09 pm

felix dakat wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:Because I’m an empath, yes, it’s all or nothing to me.

Not everyone is an empath. It’s nonsense for an empath to say something ‘normal’ such as “what a nice day today”


Well of course I don't know you, but there is a lot of evidence that all or nothing thinking is a cognitive distortion that results in an unrealistic approach to life. This is because life is rarely completely either one way or the other. No one is absolutely brilliant or totally stupid. Absolutes do not exist in the phenomenal world. Dichotomous thinking is a perceptual error. Does being an "empath" mean you are stuck with an unrealistic way of looking at the world that doesn't work?


No. All it means is that if there’s someone starving somewhere/anywhere I can’t force myself to saying something like “I’m having a great day”. Like all these fucking zombies. I’m real, I’m visceral, I don’t bullshit.
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Re: Wholeness

Postby felix dakat » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:54 pm

Ecmandu wrote:
felix dakat wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:Because I’m an empath, yes, it’s all or nothing to me.

Not everyone is an empath. It’s nonsense for an empath to say something ‘normal’ such as “what a nice day today”


Well of course I don't know you, but there is a lot of evidence that all or nothing thinking is a cognitive distortion that results in an unrealistic approach to life. This is because life is rarely completely either one way or the other. No one is absolutely brilliant or totally stupid. Absolutes do not exist in the phenomenal world. Dichotomous thinking is a perceptual error. Does being an "empath" mean you are stuck with an unrealistic way of looking at the world that doesn't work?


No. All it means is that if there’s someone starving somewhere/anywhere I can’t force myself to saying something like “I’m having a great day”. Like all these fucking zombies. I’m real, I’m visceral, I don’t bullshit.


There's always someone starving somewhere. Does that keep you from ever having a great day?
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