It’s interesting that we or someone hijacked the thread. There is some vague parallel. It opens with Jesus’ version of moral vs. the OT via Yahweh’s nature, and whether there was or should be a conflict. The angry spiteful jealous God of the OT vs. the generally more caring and non-violent Jesus.
And this evolved into a discussion of whether caring for others is a meaningful concept and if so what it entails, means.
It’s because the greatest I am asked me who my god is and I replied that I can only care about myself, so I suppose my god is me. Then Phyllo opened the selfless acts can of worms and you jumped somewhere in the middle and here we are.
This reminds me of another AW bit: I can’t remember the guru’s name, but he would always reply to the spiritual with the material and to the material with the spiritual, so if you ask about the nature of reality, you get reference to bamboo shoots and if you ask to be passed a knife at dinner, you’ll be confronted with a spiritual dilemma lol. I think that’s kinda what you did there.
but they’re always saying that the
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highest religion could get really to get
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there you have to kill the Buddha.
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Supposing a clergyman got up one day in
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pulpit and said “every time you say Jesus
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Christ you have to wash your mouth out.”
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Or if you meet God the Father, kill him;
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if you meet God the Son, kill him and
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meet God the Holy Spirit, kill him; if you
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meet the Pope, kill him; if you meet st.
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Augustine, kill him; if you meet your
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father and mother, kill them! Kill them all right away!
Yeah, but he (and Phyllo) are pulling from the if you meet the buddha on the road
coming from a Zen Master. Not literal. The idea of the Buddha inside you. Gotta kill Watts in the same vein. Let me know how you killed Watts…
And now going back to this strange monk Dionysus, it was he who first put around the idea in Christian circles that there was such a thing of the knowledge as the knowledge of God by faith, by agnosia, really by unknowing, and he, in a book which he wrote called “The Theologian Mystica”, he wrote a treatise on the higher knowledge of God which might be quoted directly from the Upanishads, in certain parts of it, the last section of it reads like the Mandukya Upanishad because it’s a series of negations. It says what God is not and he goes very far because he says that God is not “one” because our idea of unity falls far short of what God is; so does our idea of Trinity; so does our idea of spirit; our idea of mind; of justice; of love; all these things are not really God and he says in another place “that if anybody, having seen God, understood what he had seen, what he would have seen would not have been God, but some creature of God less than God; some sort of angel or something like that.”
And then in other places Alan says people who believe in god don’t have any faith because they need something to hold onto. True faith is letting go of all concepts of god (kill the buddha). If you meet the buddha on the road, it could not have been the buddha, but some creature less than; an impostor!