Researchers Discover 'Anxiety Cells' In The Brain

Where did you read about the HCP articles?
Obviously there will be limitations and barriers within the HCP but mapping of the brain is a long term and ongoing project.

I suggest you do more research on the HCP.
humanconnectome.org/study/h … p-data.php

You have proven no such thing.

The important question is not “can it be done?” , it’s “ought it be done?”.

If you want to prove something useful, then prove that the “modulated” non-religious that you envision are actually better human beings than the religious of today. Prove that the technology won’t be abused.

We have drugs and therapies now. Ought they be used to “treat” religious beliefs? Ought they be used to “treat” atheistic beliefs? Political beliefs? What other “diseases”?

Who decides who and what ought to be “treated”?

Ok,noted ‘ought’.

I have argued elsewhere, in addition to the expansion of knowledge and intelligence [IQ], there must be a quantum leap in the moral competence of the average human being.
All humans are born with a faculty of morality which is evolving and has evolved very slowly throughout the history of mankind. Note my argument re the legal abolishment of Chattel Slavery in contrast to say 100 years ago.

Through the mapping of the brain, it will also facilitate the increase and expedite the moral quotient of the average person.
If the current average moral quotient [MQ] is say X, then by the time we work on religiosity and theism, the MQ must be at least 2X or more. Thus if the current average MQ is 100 then it must be 200 or more by 50 years time.
By then the average IQ should be increased, so is the wisdom quotient, the spiritual quotient and other relevant measurements has to increase.

Completely beside the point.

In other words we have to have a Brave New World in order to accomplish the objectives of the HCP.
Believe me there are decent criticisms of the project on the web. I just never learned how to cut and paste. One critic noted that we cannot even trace the neuron connections in a nematode and yet we expect to trace the 100 billion connections in the human nervous system. Another noted that the project amounts to trying to figure out how a computer works by studying its wiring diagrams. And yet another noted that what is considered to be a connection might amount to something else. In short, from the number of critical articles about the HCP, it is a least noteworthy that a number of scientists doubt that it can be done.
If it can be done, the moral question would be why? as Phyllo notes. If the goal is to rid the world of religions, that will never be done.

theguardian.com/science/neu … ome-review

50 years or even 30 years ago, who would not have doubts the Human Genome Project [HGP] can be completed.
Despite the doubts [skepticism, condemnations, ] from pessimists of the likes of you, some persistent scientists took the challenge in baby steps and the Human Genome Project was completed in 2003.
As for application and utility from this HGP, progress as expected is slow and scientists are treading carefully against the grains of ethics.

The Human Connectome Project will progress along the same line as the Human Genome Project [HGP] but the HCP will be perhaps 5 times more difficult than the Genome Project. Neuroscientists are continually taking baby steps up a very steep learning curve.

Someone is lying.
The connectome of the nematode has already been mapped completely.

Progress has also been made, i.e.

Why scientists are optimistic in tracing all the neurons in the brain is because the neurons are very physical things like wires but they are very very fine.
Since they have already done for the nematode, now working on the fruit flies and other living things, it is a matter of time that the human brain will be fully or sufficiently mapped.

As for ethics and morality, humanity are also progressing in their moral competence and there is already an evidence of the ongoing trend of moral progress within humanity.

It is not exactly ‘getting rid of religion’ but when there is sufficient progress in the HCP, more people will understand the roots of religion and link religions [SOME] to the terrible evils and violence and people will slowly gravitate toward the non-theistic alternatives without any evil baggage.

This article was written in 2012 - 21 Sep 2012 15.00 BST.

Since then there has been much progress with mapping of the human brain.
This HCP project is like Mt. Everest, the North and South Pole, and the various frontiers that has drawn humans to conquer them.

Since we have done the connectome for the nematode, it is a matter of time it will be done for the human brain.

Wonder why do you jumped and creeped into the defensive, skeptic and pessimistic hole?
I believe it has to do with the existential crisis in you ticking subliminally.

I admit that the connections in the nematode have been traced since one article was written. The nematode has no brain as such. Have the 100,000 connections of the rat been traced?
“Defensive, skeptic and pessimistic hole?” You have got to be kidding. Is this how you accept real criticism of your views? A number of scientists are not impressed by the claims of the HCP. Accept reasonable criticisms of your views and do not attempt to psychoanalyze me.

Worthless nonsense. :imp:

As I had mentioned the venture into this area has to be taken in baby steps.
Neuroscientists are now working on the fruit flies, the progress …

Generally the learning curve is very steep but once they get a breakthrough the process will be expedited in quantum leaps.

Note another parallel project re the Connectome;

I appreciate your “critique” but I only wish it is not in your 'Defensive, skeptic and pessimistic" mode. You can’t deny you have been very skeptical, pessimistic and defensive and it would be worthwhile to ask yourself “Why” re Know Thyself. [for philosophy sake]

You continue to psychoanalyze whoever offers any criticism of your favorite views. If I object to what you claim to be truth, I’m either muddled, a theist or both. I’m not the one being defensive here. You seem unable to take criticism. I suggest there are as many scientists who criticize the HCP as there are who favor it. Simply google anti-connectome-ism. Are these concerned scientists all theists? Are they simply being defensive?

True there are many critiques but they [real scientists] don’t condemn the HCP as phrenology and in other derogatory terms.

Note I am arguing on the basis of a trend,
-the supposedly impossible objective of the Human Genome project is now completed.
-it was impossible for humans to reach the moon,
-the current trend of the exponential expansion of knowledge and technology
-etc. etc.
I would appreciate if you can tell me why there is no possibility at all of scientists achieving the objectives of the HCP.

Simply search “anti=connectome-ism”.
I have raised numerous objections to the possibility that the HCP, if realized to some extent, will do what you claim can be done. I should not have to keep repeating myself.
Successes in other areas of science do not guarantee the success of the HCP. And scientists are too busy in day by day research to comment on the conjectures of neurophilosophy. But then all you have to do is to consider a good criticism as dated when it remains appropriate.

“…we now know that the brain continuously ‘rewires’ itself in response to experience, by altering its connections, and perhaps breaking older ones countless times per second. A static connectivity map would therefore tell us nothing about these organizational changes. We would, therefore, need multiple connectomes for each individual to take these changes into account.”—Mo Costandi
From another reviewer–
“Connectome research is another pie in the sky science fiction fantasy. Neurons are not little digital 1/0 units with well defined inputs/outputs. The hubris of some projects is astounding.”

Objection 1.
Neuron connections are fluid, not static.

The review was done in 2012,
Fri 21 Sep 2012 15.00 BST, and apparently it is against Seung’s grand claims;

The brain is very very complex.
Thus even if we have the attained the objectives of the HCP such may not cover the total processes within the brain neural connectivities.
What is critical is the HCP provide the standard model [of reasonable precision] of how the neurons are connected in relation to various functions within a normal brain of the majority.
I believe this standard model of reasonable precision is sufficient for us to deal with anxiety cells to the existential crisis to religions which would be more precise than the black-box approach the Buddhists and others are using at present.

Physically, in the standard model of human anatomy, the humans hands are not attached to the hips.
It is the same with the standard model of the anatomy of the human brain where there are standard connections within the structures of the brain of the normal person. No matter how fluid, we don’t expect the main neurons of taste be connected to neurons for hearing within the normal brain.

There are only exceptional variations facilitated by neuroplasticity due to brain damage or random wrong connectivity, e.g. as in anaethesia due to cross wiring of the senses.

Your objection 1 is thus blasted.

Neuron connections vary in ways other than by neuroplasticity or anesthesia and perhaps change several times per second. Of course there are neuron routes that distinguish arm from leg movement. You must take me for a fool. Neurons tell the quality of the experience not just the mechanics of it. A dead, sliced nematode is not about to translate, by virtue of its 120 immobilized neurons, into some algorithm that will reveal to someone other than myself what the taste and texture of jello is like. If the HCP remains in the mechanical mode, it will not be able to reveal eventually what it is like to be human.
Objection 1 still stands.
Objection 2. only living neurons can reveal qualia.
Your theory rests on your assumptions that you know the why and wherefore of anxiety cell activity. That assumption has been blasted time and again by others here.

I love how no one mentions glial cells in these debates. That neurons are the only cells having shaping skills and functions is, like, so passe.

Agreed. Prism’s theory, however, is based on research done by the HCP, which is mainly concerned with the connectivity of neurons to each other and to body sites.
Objection 3. Glial cells participate in the brain’s attempts to achieve homeostasis. They insulate neurons, which may affect “anxiety” cells. Although glial cells do not participate directly in the neuron activity at the synapse, their support of neurons could be considered indirect influence on neuron connectivity.
Karpel Tunnel,
If you have any appropriate information about glial cells, please let us know.

Popular:
scientificbrains.com/5-reaons-wh … elligence/

Little deeper
blogs.ohsu.edu/brain/2013/04/19 … in-humans/

This was the book that first clued me in that glial cells are not just structural and are part of intelligence, cognition, memory and more…
amazon.com/Root-Thought-Unl … 0134383036
scientificamerican.com/arti … ught-what/

Other
medicalxpress.com/news/2014-12- … -mice.html
huffingtonpost.com/dr-dougl … 10871.html
dujs.dartmouth.edu/2014/08/glial … rpBJtRuaUk
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4161624/
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