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Any being that is Omni ....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:32 pm
by Ecmandu
Any being that is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, MUST be omnibenevolent by virtue of experiencing everything, it wouldn't want to suffer torments and shattered dreams, even if it has to put each being in its own reality to accomplish it. Such a being would not torment itself or have broken or shattered dreams for itself, of which we are all part.

Even if the omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent being were a machine, by virtue of feeling us, would make all our dreams come true forever.

Omniscience, omnipotence and omnipresence implies omnibenevolence...

Re: Any being that is Omni ....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:44 pm
by Ecmandu
If this aspect of being does in fact harm us, it is not really omnipotent, omniscient or omnipresent, just claiming to "want" to harm us (itself) - there may be power like this, but should it torment us, it is lying about its own inadequacy, but trying to convince us that that's what it really wants to do, which is false.

There's a difference between "more powerful in certain contexts" and true Omni ...

True Omni would delight in us being delighted!!!

Re: Any being that is Omni ....

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:51 am
by Prismatic567
The idea of God emerged and evolved through the natural psychological desperation to deal with an inherent and unavoidable existential crisis and its related angst.

To ensure the greatest assurance, whatever God is idealized it has to be all-powerful [omnipotence] so that such a God can meet whatever expectations to resolve that pulsating angst, e.g. created the Universe, listen and answers to prayers, grant eternal life in heaven [bonus of virgins for some].

When countered and queried, theists will claim all sorts of omni-whatever that is positive for the their God. 'Good' is definitely a positive trait, so theists naturally claim their God is omni-good [moral] or omni-benevolent.
In their desperation, theists are not aware of the potential contradictions in their claims of 'omni'.

When countered with contradictions, theists will give all sorts of excuses and digging a deeper hole for themselves.

The point is the idea of God emerged from psychological desperation without a strong rational grounding and thus GIGO and it will end as garbage.

The only solution to the idea of God is to revert to the psychological basis and resolve the problem from that base. Many of the Eastern spiritualities had done that since thousands of years ago.