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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Xunzian » Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:34 am

Result: Religion of Humanity

Meh, I'll take it.
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Mackerni » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:29 am

I've added additional results and questions for this quiz. I'm currently at forty-seven questions and thirty-eight results, including Dannerz own religion, Right Reason. If you haven't taken the quiz for a long time, or you haven't taken it at all, why not take it again and see where your choices lead you?
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby MagsJ » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:36 pm

A bit like a bout of chronic fatigue.. not sure if I want to go through that again :lol: but I don't think my result will change as my last/2nd result was pretty much me religion-wise, but I love to embrace my RC roots still ;)
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Mackerni » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:35 am

Okay. I've updated the quiz yet again. (I'm addicted to perfecting this quiz!)

51 Questions, 40 Results.

Here are the results list.

Islam, Human Secularist, Hinduism, Buddhism, Ethnic Religion, African Traditional Religion, Sikhism, Spiritism, Judaism, Baha'i Faith, Jainism, Shinto, Cao Dai, Zoroastrianism, Tenrikyo, Modern Paganism, Unitarian Universalism, Rastafari, Terasem Movement Transreligion, Scientology, Religion of Humanity, LeVeyan Satanism, World Pantheist Movement, Jediism, Pastafarianism, Eckankar, Raelism, Thelema, Kopimism, Taoism, Confucianism, Exaltism, Catholic, Protestant, Eastern Orthodox Christianity, Mormon, Omnism, Right Reason, Atheism+, Agnostic.

I've hit my mark on my questions but I'm still lagging a bit behind on results. If anyone has any suggestions as to what additional results could be, message me on here or PM message me (either way is fine).

Edit: I added the religion of "Creativity".

52 Questions now. I included a question on proselyting.
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Xunzian » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:25 am

I'd strongly suggest fusing Daoism and Confucianism (with some Buddhist sprinklings) into Chinese Traditional Religion -- this is from someone who self-identifies as a Confucian. Cao Dai and Shinto should remain their own thing for the same reason. Split Buddhism into Mahayana and Theravada. Vajrayana if you want but I'd avoid it because it's really granular. At that point you may as well start breaking down the sects of Protestantism. Likewise, expand Tenrikyo to "Japanese New Religions" though I think a whole "New Religion" catch-all might be good -- that would also let you grab some of the alien cults. I don't see Islam represented at all, you should fix that. Unless you think the Filoque and/or iconoclasim controversies are still hot shit, maybe mend the Great Schism with Catholic and Orthodox into Chalcedonian so you have Protestant, Chalcedonian and non-Chalcedonian. All three are super broad catch-alls but so is everything else. Likewise, I think you could cut down on real estate by having a catch-all "post modern religion" or "anti-religion" category. That would clear up a lot of the oddballs on the list.
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Mackerni » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:56 am

Xunzian wrote:I'd strongly suggest fusing Daoism and Confucianism (with some Buddhist sprinklings) into Chinese Traditional Religion -- this is from someone who self-identifies as a Confucian.


I did, but I realized that Confucianism and Taoism are pretty unique.

Xunzian wrote:Cao Dai and Shinto should remain their own thing for the same reason.


Cao Dai comes from Vietnam, and Shinto comes from Japan.

Xunzian wrote:Split Buddhism into Mahayana and Theravada. Vajrayana if you want but I'd avoid it because it's really granular.


I want to, but I have virtually no way of knowing the difference between those sects of Buddhism. In fact, out of all the major world religions I know Buddhism the least.

Xunzian wrote:At that point you may as well start breaking down the sects of Protestantism.


Ugh.

Xunzian wrote:Likewise, expand Tenrikyo to "Japanese New Religions" though I think a whole "New Religion" catch-all might be good -- that would also let you grab some of the alien cults.


I already have many new religions, including Raelism. Why should I merge all of them into one religion? There's a huge difference between, say, Unitarian Universalism, Raelism, and Scientology.

Xunzian wrote:I don't see Islam represented at all, you should fix that.


It is. I might not use the vernacular of that religion to describe it, but it's there.

Xunzian wrote:Unless you think the Filoque and/or iconoclasim controversies are still hot shit, maybe mend the Great Schism with Catholic and Orthodox into Chalcedonian so you have Protestant, Chalcedonian and non-Chalcedonian.


I have no clue what you are talking about.

Xunzian wrote:All three are super broad catch-alls but so is everything else. Likewise, I think you could cut down on real estate by having a catch-all "post modern religion" or "anti-religion" category. That would clear up a lot of the oddballs on the list.


Ah yes, the antitheism. I will probably add that soon, thanks for reminding me of that.
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Xunzian » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:56 am

LOL.

So much so wrong.

Gimme something better than that weak sauce.
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Mackerni » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:08 am

Xunzian wrote:LOL.

So much so wrong.

Gimme something better than that weak sauce.


If you know religions so much, why don't you create a quiz or your own? Then everybody can take your quiz because it will be so much better than mine.

www.qzzr.com or www.selectsmart.com

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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Arminius » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:04 am

Mackerni wrote:
Arminius wrote:A "religion of humanity", if it should be a "positivistic church" is absurd (typical French). It makes no sense, it is not logical, because humanity is not merely a "positivistic" thing, and positivism is not merely a "humanitarian" thing.

That definition is false too. Securalism is not "the state of being seperate from religion". You can be secular and nonetheless be religious. No problem at all.

I got those descriptions from Wikipedia. Take it up with them to modify it if it upsets you that much. :P

EDIT:

1) "Positivism" has nothing to do with being "positive" it has to do with being positive that only real things are real. Hence its humanistic qualities. You can think very negative (like cynicism) and still be a postivist.

Is your misunderstanding an accident or a rhetoric goal? You have put words in my mouth I never used. I did not say that "postivism" had to with "x" or "y". I merely said that "positivism is not merely a 'humanitarian' thing" (see above) - in other words: I merely said what you can read in my post (see above). So, please, try to read my post.

Mackerni wrote:[2) You are right, since there are secular religions, such as (ironically enough), the Religion of Humanity. However, in the case of my quiz's nature - this definition still holds true.

3) Why don't you take the quiz and give us your results instead of complaining about it?

I am not "complaining about it", but you are complaining about something that does not fit in your "quiz".

In fact, I decided to not "take the quiz", because there are too many mistakes between the questions and the offered answers in that "quiz".

You are asking:
"How many God(s) do you believe exist right now?"
To that question, you are offering e.g. the following nine answers:
- "My beliefs transcendent God."
- "Everything is God."
- "God exists outside the universe and is unconscious."
- "Technology is God."
- "Gods are not important."
- "The belief that all Gods exist."
- "An infinite amount of higher beings."
- "Nobody can know whether God exists or not."
- "None of these options."

These answers have nothing to do with the "how many?" question. In addition, some of them have nothing to do with God(s).

So two-thirds of your offered answers have nothing to do with your question. #-o

And by the way: What do you mean with your other question: "which religion are you?"? A human being "is" not a religion. I "am" not a religion. You "are" not a religion.

Please do not react by using personal attacks. I am just asking you.

Note: You have asked me "why" I "don't ... take" your "quiz", and I have honestly answered that question.
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Mackerni » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:00 am

Arminius wrote:Is your misunderstanding an accident or a rhetoric goal? You have put words in my mouth I never used. I did not say that "postivism" had to with "x" or "y". I merely said that "positivism is not merely a 'humanitarian' thing" (see above) - in other words: I merely said what you can read in my post (see above). So, please, try to read my post.


I read your post. I understand what you are trying to say - that humanity is more complex than a positivist reaction to it. That there are parts of human understand that are subjective rather than objective - like many of societies problems and the social sciences. They are not exact. And I see your point. If that isn't your point, can you please elaborate further so I can fully understand your argument.

Or

You are trying to say that the philosophy of Positivism doesn't just try to be a humanitarian thing. Almost every single answer I posted I did using Wikipedia articles. They might not always be correct, or even accurate.

Arminius wrote:I am not "complaining about it", but you are complaining about something that does not fit in your "quiz".

In fact, I decided to not "take the quiz", because there are too many mistakes between the questions and the offered answers in that "quiz".

You are asking:
"How many God(s) do you believe exist right now?"
To that question, you are offering e.g. the following nine answers:
- "My beliefs transcendent God."
- "Everything is God."
- "God exists outside the universe and is unconscious."
- "Technology is God."
- "Gods are not important."
- "The belief that all Gods exist."
- "An infinite amount of higher beings."
- "Nobody can know whether God exists or not."
- "None of these options."

These answers have nothing to do with the "how many?" question. In addition, some of them have nothing to do with God(s).

So two-thirds of your offered answers have nothing to do with your question. #-o


Okay, so maybe my vernacular was a little off. I realize that, for example, "technology is god" does not really answer the question about how many Gods there is. Neither does, "Gods are not important." However, each answer provides an answer regarding the nature of God or Gods. I might not have expressed it that way in the question - plus I have another question that is similar, what is the nature of your theology, which is in direct relationship to how many God(s) one believes and how they observe them. So my vocabulary is a little off. If you got upset at my first question of the quiz, then you really shouldn't take the quiz anyway. I'm sorry, okay? I made a boo-boo, and honestly I don't know the wording to fix that problem. Maybe you can lead a hand? :oops:

... would "Which of the following do you believe about God?" be better? I'm humbly asking for your honest opinion.

Arminius wrote:And by the way: What do you mean with your other question: "which religion are you?"? A human being "is" not a religion. I "am" not a religion. You "are" not a religion.

Please do not react by using personal attacks. I am just asking you.

Note: You have asked me "why" I "don't ... take" your "quiz", and I have honestly answered that question.


Ah, yes. I'm going to let you in a little secret. I'm bi-polar. Yes, I used the wording as such, even though I know the correct terminology is I have bi-polar disorder. I realize that someone cannot literally be a religion - even if they answer every question in accordance to that religion. What I could say, instead is, "Which religion may fit you best?" That would be correct vernacular.

Maybe we should talk about this together in a PM. Maybe we could work on the phrasing of these questions. Because, well, you know, philosophy is all about context. :wink:
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Xunzian » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:34 am

Effort posting here.

Mackerni wrote:I did, but I realized that Confucianism and Taoism are pretty unique.


I'm interested to hear your thoughts, please present them.

Cao Dai comes from Vietnam, and Shinto comes from Japan.


So? Is geography destiny?

You are including a lot of internet joke religions which is fine but what do they actually mean?

I want to, but I have virtually no way of knowing the difference between those sects of Buddhism. In fact, out of all the major world religions I know Buddhism the least.


Good for you, why are you making this quiz pseudo-comprehensive then?

Totally shallow separation but:

Answer key (not comprehensive and open to interpretation):

T=Theravada
M=Mahayana
V=Vajrayana

1) Is there only one Buddha (T) or do many exist (M, V)?

1a) How many Buddhas are present in the world right now? T=0. M=many V=1-3+ depending on how you view the legitimacy of Lama succession. Dalai and Panchen Lama + various pretenders to various thrones.

2) Do Bodhisattvas willingly remain in the cycle of death and rebirth? (No=T, V yes = M)

3) Devas -- what the fuck are they? (T, not M and lesser extent no V)

4) Is Enlightenment dependent on G Buddha or or not? (T = yes, V/M = N)

5) Is G Buddha's message understood by a select few (T and V) or is it for everyone (M)?

That should help.

Xunzian wrote:At that point you may as well start breaking down the sects of Protestantism.


Ugh.

You seem OK breaking down weird other shit "ugh" is weak sauce.

Xunzian wrote:Likewise, expand Tenrikyo to "Japanese New Religions" though I think a whole "New Religion" catch-all might be good -- that would also let you grab some of the alien cults.


I already have many new religions, including Raelism. Why should I merge all of them into one religion? There's a huge difference between, say, Unitarian Universalism, Raelism, and Scientology.

-- Is there?

Xunzian wrote:I don't see Islam represented at all, you should fix that.


It is. I might not use the vernacular of that religion to describe it, but it's there.

-- You are weak and I resent spending as much time as I already have.

Xunzian wrote:Unless you think the Filoque and/or iconoclasim controversies are still hot shit, maybe mend the Great Schism with Catholic and Orthodox into Chalcedonian so you have Protestant, Chalcedonian and non-Chalcedonian.


I have no clue what you are talking about.

-- At least try to understand what you are talking about.

Xunzian wrote:All three are super broad catch-alls but so is everything else. Likewise, I think you could cut down on real estate by having a catch-all "post modern religion" or "anti-religion" category. That would clear up a lot of the oddballs on the list.


Ah yes, the antitheism. I will probably add that soon, thanks for reminding me of that.[/quote]

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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Mackerni » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:53 am

Xunzian wrote:I'm interested to hear your thoughts, please present them.


Well, for one, Confucianism is obsessed with rituals, whereas Taoism focuses more on ethics. Confucianism is an atheistic religion, where as most Taoists believe in some sort of deities.

Xunzian wrote:So? Is geography destiny?

You are including a lot of internet joke religions which is fine but what do they actually mean?


Oh come on! Tenrikyo and Cao Dai are very different! Tenrikyo is influenced by Shinto and Buddhism, as well as Shamanism. Cao Dai is a syncretic religion that resembles an eastern version of Catholicism. Totally different.

I took the "joke" religions like Jediism, Kopimism, and Pastafarianism and I took them at face-value. Simple as that.

(I mean, as far as the prophet question is concerned I don't actually think many people think George Lucas is one. It was a gag, like Jediism itself is.)

Xunzian wrote:Good for you, why are you making this quiz pseudo-comprehensive then?

Totally shallow separation but:

Answer key (not comprehensive and open to interpretation):

T=Theravada
M=Mahayana
V=Vajrayana

1) Is there only one Buddha (T) or do many exist (M, V)?

1a) How many Buddhas are present in the world right now? T=0. M=many V=1-3+ depending on how you view the legitimacy of Lama succession. Dalai and Panchen Lama + various pretenders to various thrones.

2) Do Bodhisattvas willingly remain in the cycle of death and rebirth? (No=T, V yes = M)

3) Devas -- what the fuck are they? (T, not M and lesser extent no V)

4) Is Enlightenment dependent on G Buddha or or not? (T = yes, V/M = N)

5) Is G Buddha's message understood by a select few (T and V) or is it for everyone (M)?

That should help.


There's a LOT more I need to know besides that.

Xunzian wrote:You seem OK breaking down weird other shit "ugh" is weak sauce.


I would have to write Christian-only questions to resolve the conflicts of inner-Protestant sects. I do NOT want to do that. Many of the questions had Mormonism, Catholicism, Protestantism, and Eastern Orthodox Christianity be the same if not similar answers. I was considering added in Restorationism to that list, but then I read somewhere that Mormonism is part of that and I didn't want the conflict.

Xunzian wrote:-- Is there?


Yes, there is. You are fucking ignorant if you think Raelism, Unitarian Universalism, and the Baha'i Faith are in any way, shape, or form the same. Raelism advocates for cloning and sexual freedom, UUism is a creed without one, and the Baha'i Faith is Islam's answer to Christianity (or Christianity's answer to Islam?).

Xunzian wrote: You are weak and I resent spending as much time as I already have.


I could say the same about you.

Xunzian wrote:At least try to understand what you are talking about.


Maybe I have the balls to say that I don't know everything about religion, and I really don't have the time to research every religion like you do. Wait a minute ... didn't I just have to explain how NRMs are not all alike?

Xunzian wrote:You don't need another new element, you need to resolve and refine what you have.


Secular Humanism, Atheism+, Agnosticism, and Pastafarianism is not explicitly anti-religion. Pastafarianism makes fun of religion, agnostics don't know where they stand, and secular humanism and atheism+ are more to deal with secular ideas and thoughts. While all four and anti-theism are very similar, they are indeed, different.
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Xunzian » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:20 am

Yeah . . . I was going to effort post but your post makes my point better than I possibly could.
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby MagsJ » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:38 pm

I would agree that the questions need refining, so as to enable one's reply to be more definite, so perhaps saying "what is your concept of God" rather than "how many gods do you believe in", so making the question more succinct.

Where each question says to choose all that apply, is that a default text that appears? or are we really supposed to choose all that apply?
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Mackerni » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:28 pm

Xunzian wrote:Yeah . . . I was going to effort post but your post makes my point better than I possibly could.


You're really rude, you know that?

MagsJ wrote:I would agree that the questions need refining, so as to enable one's reply to be more definite, so perhaps saying "what is your concept of God" rather than "how many gods do you believe in", so making the question more succinct.


I already refined the God question to say exactly what you stated, and instead of the quiz saying, "What religion are you?" It says, "What religion may fit you best?"

MagsJ wrote:Where each question says to choose all that apply, is that a default text that appears? or are we really supposed to choose all that apply?


All the questions are a "choose all that apply" EXCEPT for the last question, which you have to choose which religion you want the outcome to be. I didn't want that question to hold too much weight so I limited that down to one answer.
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby MagsJ » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:26 pm

Mackerni wrote:I already refined the God question to say exactly what you stated, and instead of the quiz saying, "What religion are you?" It says, "What religion may fit you best?"

May I suggest that you go through all the questions and refine them in a similar vein, then they will be easier to answer due to being more precise from the off.
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Xunzian » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:34 am

I'll start effort posting once you've shown me I should effort post.

Let's start with a softball.

How are Daoism and Confucianism distinct?
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:13 am

Xunzian wrote:I'll start effort posting once you've shown me I should effort post.

Let's start with a softball.

How are Daoism and Confucianism distinct?


Xunzian ... can I answer? please ... please ... please :lol:

I'm so grateful that you are helping these readers grasp ... however slightly ... Daoism and Confuciamism
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Amorphos » Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:22 am

Good quiz. Trouble is, I can believe [or not] in God, no God/god, and many G/gods. I don’t get what the confusion is.
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Mackerni » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:25 am

Amorphos wrote:Good quiz. Trouble is, I can believe [or not] in God, no God/god, and many G/gods. I don’t get what the confusion is.


Which is why ALL of the questions have the option to choose multiple answers, save for the last question which you choose which faith you want as your result.

Amorphos wrote:Take one thing which may become anything but itself is none of them [as they all come from it [even God]]. End.


You are very wise.

EDIT: What was your result? Did you agree with it?
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Xunzian » Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:04 am

pilgrim_tom wrote:
Xunzian wrote:I'll start effort posting once you've shown me I should effort post.

Let's start with a softball.

How are Daoism and Confucianism distinct?


Xunzian ... can I answer? please ... please ... please :lol:

I'm so grateful that you are helping these readers grasp ... however slightly ... Daoism and Confuciamism


Seems like the dude is whiffing on it. So go for it. Hopefully we'll learn something together :)
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:39 am

Xunzian wrote:
pilgrim_tom wrote:
Xunzian wrote:I'll start effort posting once you've shown me I should effort post.

Let's start with a softball.

How are Daoism and Confucianism distinct?


Xunzian ... can I answer? please ... please ... please :lol:

I'm so grateful that you are helping these readers grasp ... however slightly ... Daoism and Confuciamism


Seems like the dude is whiffing on it. So go for it. Hopefully we'll learn something together :)


First some context:

1) Some argue the first step in healing/reconciliation ... whether it be between two individuals or two peoples ... is an understanding of the "other".

2) My grasp of Daoism and Confucianism is 'crazy shallow'. My DNA doesn't have security clearance for Chinese history and there is pitifully little high quality literature on the subject in the English language.

3) China/Cathay has always been an enigma to the Western mindset. eg Western thinkers are still scratching their heads trying to figure out how the current modernization/advancement of China happened so fast ... referred to by some as the Chinese Miracle. 18th century European intellectuals wondered how such a sophisticated civilization as China could emerge without an organized religion. Yet in the 16th-17th century an Italian scholar put forward the argument that the ancient Chinese people knew the Western God ... perhaps even before the West adopted the notion of a monolithic God.

4) Daoism and Confucianism are the two most significant pillars underpinning Chinese thought, culture and history ... peppered with some Buddhist thought.

5) I will use the Deng Xiaopeng approach ... crossing the river by feeling the stones.

Here's the first stone ... one statement on each.

i) Confucius persistently refused to speak to his followers about "metaphysical" topics. He insisted on figuring out a way to improve life in the "here and now." Confucius was pragmatic.

ii) Lao Tzu had no followers to speak of during his lifetime. Lao Tzu couched some of his thinking in political/economic thought ... yet most of his thinking/writing is absolutely abstract. Subsequent generations of Daoist thinkers attempted to bring Lao Tzu's thoughts "down to earth".
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Re: A Religious Quiz

Postby Amorphos » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:54 pm

Mackerni wrote:
Amorphos wrote:Good quiz. Trouble is, I can believe [or not] in God, no God/god, and many G/gods. I don’t get what the confusion is.


Which is why ALL of the questions have the option to choose multiple answers, save for the last question which you choose which faith you want as your result.

Amorphos wrote:Take one thing which may become anything but itself is none of them [as they all come from it [even God]]. End.


You are very wise.

EDIT: What was your result? Did you agree with it?



Omnism, of course.

Too many questions, concise version would I feel in my bones achieve the same thing. You know how when one gets to the thing whatever that may be, it is always simple. Otherwise one hasn’t got to the thing has one lol. Pretty sure I could have got my result from one question for example.

Repetition is moronic, you only need to tell people ‘select all which apply’ once.

Thanx btw.
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