Sauwelios wrote:A Shieldmaiden wrote:You're a terrible quoter. What's the source of those Hitler quotes, for example?
Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf, My Struggle
Oops, I guess I should read up on "my Hitler"!
Pezerocles wrote:Hahahaha. Beautiful.
I was reading it aloud here to Fixed Cross, but we had to cut it short.
Anyway, this is a comedy. Shakespeare knows women best in his tragedies, 'cause true power is tragic and women have true power. Men are more the attempt to curb the irrepressible will of women.
perpetualburn wrote:Pezerocles wrote:Hahahaha. Beautiful.
Are you laughing because you think the poem confirms your assessment of Shakespeare, that
Everything in Shakespeare ultimately hinges upon the whims of women."?
I was reading it aloud here to Fixed Cross, but we
had to cut it short.
Pezerocles wrote:No need to get all dramatic. I laughed because I found the poem funny!
Anyway, no need to be so defensive about manliness. This: I learned from women.
Compared to Shakespeare, Nietzsche's treatment of women is mild.
And yet everyone, women included, adore Shakespeare, while castigating Nietzsche for his so called "misogyny."
A Shieldmaiden wrote:Perpetualburn wrote:Compared to Shakespeare, Nietzsche's treatment of women is mild.
During Shakespeare's time, the mocking and lack of respect for women was much more prevalent and the qualities that women were supposed to have during his time were those of a 'delicate flower'.
Misogyny is nowhere near as prevalent in our time than it was in Shakespeare's or Nietzsche's, each had it's own degree of.
I do not adore Shakespeare or his work. Too flowery, sing song, the poem below has truth in it.
[/quote][/quote]Charles Bukowski interviewed by Sean Penn
He's unreadable and overrated. But people don't want to hear that. You see, you cannot attack shrines. Shakespeare is embedded through the centuries. You can say "So-and-so is lousy actor!" But you can't say Shakespeare is shit. The longer something is around, snobs begin to attach themselves to it, like suckerfish. When snobs feel something is safe...they attach. The moment you tell them the truth, they go wild. They can't handle it. It's attacking their own thought process. They disgust me.
The guy who prides himself on his down to earth style I guess can't appreciate heartfelt sincerity when he hears it.
Fixed Cross wrote:I think you need to go much further with this transfiguration of writing, namely also becoming entirely metrical in the classical sense.
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