Hi everyone, I’d like to share an audio summary I just made of my spiral-related understanding of the ultimate Truth: drive.google.com/file/d/0B1QT-Z … lSSGM/view
It’s part of the section “Enlightenment, Self-Realization, Liberation, Theory of Everything” on this page of my site: sites.google.com/site/jmaf6556/purpose-of-life
An infinite being is not the same as a God; not only does it not have self but it doesn’t even have x,y,z, mathematical positions as required for information and hence thought. Secondly there can be no beginning to an infinity and reality must reach infinity if it exists. ‘one’ [1] does not apply in any sense other than there is one infinity which is made of nothing, that is the only way we can classify the whole thing, however it is neither a whole nor a thing.
We surely have to see reality in context of the universe which began as infinite, and then also that reality must then be also infinite and finite at once. The perceived duality in the quoted sentiment is not present in reality, so there are no foundations to its claims.
That doesn’t necessarily mean there is no God, it just means you have attempted to encapsulate his/her/its majesty in a few mere words. 
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Amorphos, I like and agree with a lot of what you’ve said.
Yes, I did my best to describe the nondual/one infinite with finite words. By God I mean the universal, foundational being, not an anthropomorphic one, I’ve basically defined God as the infinite. I think nothing finite is perfect (and infinite), including this explanation, but I think it’s still quite good, I don’t see anything to change right now.
Hopefully you still get the meaning of this page of my site, and the Theory of Everything. The logarithmic spiral model with the origin being infinity does a great job at explaining the relationship between the infinite and the finite. The “Alpha and the Omega” section too is relevant.
No harm in what your doing mate, its just for philosophical honesty one must question it. …but yes its as good as any. 
So we have infinity + finite + the universal? I would see the first two as entirely comprising the third. Secondly you have described a god which is infinite + finite, and not a purely infinite one.
Hmm my reasoning relies on the idea that everything is not shared, I am me, you are you that rock is that rock and that kind of thing. There is nothing to say that there isn’t something sharing everything, and by virtue of that is not definable by any one thing! …which is truly unlimited and infinite in that sense.
could be the all things have this sharing essential nature, and that is why nature is something we are within. [AKA the kingdom of heaven is within]
So, an infinite being isn’t a God because you view an infinite being as a finite being. That’s redundantly trite. And a problem of yours, not the infinite being, btw.
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It will drive you insane trying to figure out who is what and doing what where how why. The universe did start sharing secrets with me and I did figure that it must be sharing those secrets because it wants me to talk about them and spread the knowledge of them, otherwise, why would it tell me knowing full well that that’s what I would do with it? But, to be fair, I’m not the only one sharing them and there are a multitude of alternate realities and entities in on the project of finding answers for the universe and all interested parties or parties that may become interested once they become aware of the project. What project? Helping the universe analyze all aspects of its self. For that, wars have been waged, people have been tortured, messengers have been under attack, kidnapped, messages gone astray, changed, etc. The answers found have been vastly disturbing and yet, good to ascertain. For it, we’ve needed a multitude of perceptions, perspectives, etcetera and the ideas and imaginative processes of many, both good and evil, chaotic and orderly. For that, we had to understand insanity, fix it, understand chaos, fix it, understand evil, fix it, and then let it be and teach it how to fix itself at any time that it chose to do so. We had to impress on everything the necessity involved in this process of finding answers, just what it meant, how, why, where, what and when and we couldn’t always articulate this, if you catch our drift.
Think it eerie? creepy? unsettling? So did we. Are you going to let it bother you? We’d really rather just be seen as similar to the things you do know and can figure out, though some definitely can be creepy and do want to be. If you think that any being is forcing their presence on you, know that you’re not alone, it’s something a lot of people have gone through, it doesn’t make it all right, but there’s not much that can be done to stop it or prevent it. But, there is a great support group out there somewhere if you choose to look for it with your mind. It can be creepy some times, too. But, you’re never alone with the voices in your head.
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anywhere between 1 and infinite.
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a pity that it doesn’t require your belief to exist.
Amorphos, I’d say God is the infinite, which contains, includes, and also transcends the finite. I associate “universal” with the infinite, which again contains, includes, and also transcends the finite.
I’d say we’re all fundamentally and essentially connected and united through the one source of life energy and us all, which I’ve called God, the universal spirit, etc., as you’ve suggested.
why am I the only one not seeing/feeling it? Being somewhat disconnected has its advantages I suppose, it means I don’t get all tied up in the emotions which to others are apparent in the words.
Reality as entire and all-sharing is the base of all realities including us, no?
I am not that smart, and there is most certainly someone home. I guess I don’t feel at home in the world, and that may be the same absence as God or not having him existent to me. I have a heart even if not apparent, it simply doesn’t have those things dwelling inside it. I think robots will understand what I mean.
What is it you are sensing?
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It may startle you, but God isn’t how religion paints God to be. God can be a perfect devil at times, fights with its own shadow at times, know the shadow to be more than just a shadow of itself, knows the mirror image to be more than just itself; another entity entirely playing at mimicking mockery; and somehow manages to right itself. If you believe God to be perfect, or by itself omnipotently omnipresently omniscient, then you’d be fooling yourself. Why should God be so lonely? Why should God create it all itself? Why should God not be able to relate to the living or dead conditions? To network, to work together with other entities, to learn more from them at times than they may learn from it and to be a God being that is connected to a larger system of God beings that all do the work in one variety or another of the allmighty presence… That is something more than loneliness, something more than doing it all yourself, something more than a singular entity that misrepresents the multitude even if the multitude is its own past, future, present and side selves.
Whatever gave you the impression that you have even the most limited comprehension of God?
Because I do. And I’m sure it will continue to be limited bit by bit even as I learn more. Because I try to understand and keep trying and trust and have faith in so many things that bring me the knowledge that they do in so many varying facets of understanding life in general.
I think also because I can prove to have decently advanced knowledge that is consistent with observational realities. I think because my work on the ultimate philosophy that accounts for all other philosophies being true in each their own way, each in their own place, scattered through so many different variations of perceptions and perspectives and understanding the thought processes at least to some degree by having had them yourself. To learn while being in those frames of mind and spirit purposefully and with intent. I always have more than one reason for doing something and at least three reasons. What would God be in any sense of God except a more advanced form of whatever I am in one way or the other whether physical or seemingly immaterial and further down the line of complexity and simplicity that I myself am on and can literally understand each walk of life. And through understand a God, even the God, I find myself walking in shoes that I never knew I was walking miles in. What makes you think that you can’t have more than a limited perception? You probably never thought to try.
Oh, well that certainly explains it; “Because I do”. So how many years do you expect before you have become competent enough for the far more experienced people to listen to while expecting to hear something they haven’t already heard over and over from every young generation that thinks they are gaining new revelation?
Well now your talking a little more into my arena - “proving”. So by what means would you “prove to have decently advanced (from what?) knowledge”? I don’t argue against actual proofs. But I rarely see any.