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Will we get a syncretistic religion?

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No.
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I don't know.
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby James S Saint » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:23 am

Arminius wrote:The societies with the lowest fertility are not the wealthiest societies:

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That highest fertility rate country is Niger (approximately 7 children every per woman). The USA has been very actively importing vast numbers of their people into the USA, giving them homes and jobs (can't image why :icon-rolleyes: ).
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:47 am

James S Saint wrote:Actually, it was kind of dumb. That was like saying "First cure all diseases spread by women, then..."


James ... I find your post a bit confusing ... not the cure all the diseases spread by woman part ...

Artimus posted ... "Bingo. Spirituality is the best way." in response to a post from Lev Muishkin ... "Simple - first remove all that causes discord and conflict; get rid of all religion and look at the earth, not the world's of our own creation."

I see Artimus's post a bit differently. I don't see some new flavour of spirituality replacing all religions or superseding them.

I see it more in line with the Chinese proverb ... something to the effect ... many paths are available to climb the mountain but the view from the top remains constant.

Perhaps some day all religions will meet each other on the "top of the mountain" and discover ..."the view is the same" ... with a subsequent embracing of all religions ... all paths up the mountain ... maybe!
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:05 am

More emerging thoughts ...

Some religions have gone the way of the dodo bird on there climb up the mountain ... more may meet the same fate ... those that make it to the top will see the same view ... maybe.
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby James S Saint » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:11 pm

pilgrim_tom wrote:James ... I find your post a bit confusing

That's okay. I find all of yours that way.
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pilgrim_tom wrote:
Lev Muishkin wrote: Simple - first remove all that causes discord and conflict; get rid of all religion ...

You don't see the similarity in that and what I said:
James S Saint wrote:That was like saying "First cure all diseases spread by women, then..."

Not only is it a ridiculous "first step", but also a direct presumption of guilt.

pilgrim_tom wrote: many paths are available to climb the mountain but the view from the top remains constant.

Perhaps some day all religions will meet each other on the "top of the mountain" and discover ..."the view is the same" ... with a subsequent embracing of all religions ... all paths up the mountain ... maybe!

But then you find that they were on the wrong mountain.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby Arminius » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:25 am

James S Saint wrote:
Arminius wrote:The societies with the lowest fertility are not the wealthiest societies:

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That highest fertility rate country is Niger (approximately 7 children every per woman). The USA has been very actively importing vast numbers of their people into the USA, giving them homes and jobs (can't image why :icon-rolleyes: ).

When was it? I mean: When did the USA start to import vast numbers of people from Niger?

And by the way: How many have they imported till now?
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby Artimas » Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:48 pm

James S Saint wrote:
pilgrim_tom wrote:James ... I find your post a bit confusing

That's okay. I find all of yours that way.
:wink:

pilgrim_tom wrote:
Lev Muishkin wrote: Simple - first remove all that causes discord and conflict; get rid of all religion ...

You don't see the similarity in that and what I said:
James S Saint wrote:That was like saying "First cure all diseases spread by women, then..."

Not only is it a ridiculous "first step", but also a direct presumption of guilt.

pilgrim_tom wrote: many paths are available to climb the mountain but the view from the top remains constant.

Perhaps some day all religions will meet each other on the "top of the mountain" and discover ..."the view is the same" ... with a subsequent embracing of all religions ... all paths up the mountain ... maybe!

But then you find that they were on the wrong mountain.



No, it is what is necessary to fix a vast sum of conflicts that have been and still are ongoing.

Religion needs spirituality to be religion but spirituality does not need religion to be spirituality. Spirituality is basically all of the positives in religion without the coercion, fear, false hope, limited consciousness and discovery, traps through dogma, etc.

You do not need to follow anyone or subscribe to anything to feel or see the connection in life, universe and so on.

There is no wrong mountain... You still climb, you still get a view. The rest is preference.

A "god" who deserves worship will be humble enough to reject it; A "god" who demands worship will not be worthy of it.

All smoke fades, as do all delicate mirrors shatter.

"My ancestors are smiling on me, Imperials. Can you say the same?"

"Science Fiction today ~ Science Fact tomorrow"

Change is inevitable, it can only be delayed or sped up. Choose wisely.

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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby James S Saint » Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:39 pm

Artimas wrote:Spirituality is basically all of the positives in religion without the coercion, fear, false hope, limited consciousness and discovery, traps through dogma, etc.

BS.
Palm readers, mind readers, and mystics, are spiritualists .. endless line of fakers and con artists.

Artimas wrote:You do not need to follow anyone or subscribe to anything to feel or see the connection in life, universe and so on.

Again, BS.
"No one needs to be taught anything. Everyone inherently knows all things from infancy. Each person is God."

..yeah right. :puke-huge:

Artimas wrote:There is no wrong mountain... You still climb, you still get a view. The rest is preference.

Sure, all people are always right in all they believe .. "as long as they believe. There is no wrong. There is no Truth. All opinions are equal. Follow no one. Believe in no one. Be yourself and free."

{{where have I heard that before}}

"TEACHER!!
Leave them kids alone."
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby MagsJ » Sat Jan 16, 2016 6:15 pm

Modern churches in London, and probably beyond..

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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby phyllo » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:34 pm

"Believe in good"

Even that is too much for the modern nihilist, who cannot cannot see a distinction between good and bad or right and wrong.
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby Artimas » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:30 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Artimas wrote:Spirituality is basically all of the positives in religion without the coercion, fear, false hope, limited consciousness and discovery, traps through dogma, etc.

BS.
Palm readers, mind readers, and mystics, are spiritualists .. endless line of fakers and con artists.

Artimas wrote:You do not need to follow anyone or subscribe to anything to feel or see the connection in life, universe and so on.

Again, BS.
"No one needs to be taught anything. Everyone inherently knows all things from infancy. Each person is God."

..yeah right. :puke-huge:

Artimas wrote:There is no wrong mountain... You still climb, you still get a view. The rest is preference.

Sure, all people are always right in all they believe .. "as long as they believe. There is no wrong. There is no Truth. All opinions are equal. Follow no one. Believe in no one. Be yourself and free."

{{where have I heard that before}}

"TEACHER!!
Leave them kids alone."


Palm readers and mystics aren't spiritualists.. They're con and fake. But you never know with some people anyway.

Spirituality has nothing to do with making money, so you using that as a defense to paint it in a negative light is kind of funny.


I didn't say belief was right or everyone is right in what they believe because they arent.... Which is kind of why I point out the flaws and contradiction inside religion.


But yeah, go down your own path, independent study, study all possibilities and the chances of what could be more possible/evident than the others.

You miss the point of spirituality and focus on trying to bash it when it is impossible to bash. It is quite literally all of the positives of religion void of the negatives.

Why would you rather have a million people going down the same path discovering nothing new instead of a million paths being walked by a million people where new discovery pops up daily or hourly. Just makes no logical sense to me.

There is a truth and we have given coercive dogmatic principles and fairy tales enough time to find them, unfortunately though... It failed, miserably.

And I disagree with it being bs. People do need to be taught, or at the very least influenced so that they may teach themselves.

Opinion is about as useful as bull shit.. And then even that is more useful than opinion.

A "god" who deserves worship will be humble enough to reject it; A "god" who demands worship will not be worthy of it.

All smoke fades, as do all delicate mirrors shatter.

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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby James S Saint » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:05 pm

So exactly what dasein dichotomy do you wish to create between the good spiritualist and the evil religionist?
In your mind, precisely what is "spiritualism"?
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby Artimas » Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:23 pm

James S Saint wrote:So exactly what dasein dichotomy do you wish to create between the good spiritualist and the evil religionist?
In your mind, precisely what is "spiritualism"?


It is the recognition that all life is connected and respecting that. It is being able to study anything and all things without dogmatic principles, fear, coercion, manipulation, lies and stereotyping/judging. It is freedom of thought, which is result from getting rid of the things of which I just stated previously.

Recognizing it is a circle instead of a pyramid. There is no all time superiority. There is only superiority in certain aspects for different individuals. Ex : Person A is superior in mathematics compared to person B. Person B is superior in the arts compared to person A. These two different people balance out the superiority complex by both having their own skills of which they are better at.

Spirituality is being humble. It is being open to all possibilities but weighing what has more evidence or a logical chance above that which does not.

I'll write and think of more later on, getting off work atm.

I like to use this as the simple basic example to show the distinctions between the two. There are some terms that have been twisted in modern society so I do not like to use them, even in this article showing the differences. Like the terms "god", "divine", etc.

It has become quite popular in recent years to distinguish between spirituality and religion.

It’s true that there are valid distinctions between the two, but there are also a number of problematic distinctions which often and unnecessarily divide the two fields of thought.

One principal problem with attempts to separate religion from spirituality is that the former is saddled with everything negative while the latter is exalted with everything positive.

It is important to note the fact that many of the negative things which people attribute to religions are features of some forms of some religions (usually Judaism, Christianity, and Islam), but not of other religions (like Taoism or Buddhism).

Religion is spiritual and spirituality can also be considered religious. One tends to be more personal and private while the other tends to incorporate public rituals and organized doctrines.

The lines between one and the other may often not be clear or distinct depending on the interpretation.

Consider these definitions:
Religion is an institution established by man for various reasons. Exert control, instill morality, stroke egos, or whatever it does. Organized, structured religions all but remove god from the equation. You confess your sins to a clergy member, go to elaborate churches to worship, told what to pray and when to pray it. All those factors remove you from god.

Spirituality is born in a person and develops in the person. It may be kick started by a religion, or it may be kick started by a revelation. Spirituality extends to all facets of a person’s life. Spirituality is chosen while religion is often times forced. Being spiritual to me is more important and better than being religious.

True spirituality is something that is found deep within oneself. It is your way of loving, accepting and relating to the world and people around you. It cannot be found in a church or by believing in a certain way.
Consider the following in favor of the spiritual path:
There is not one religion, but hundreds
There is only one type of spirituality

Religion is for those who want to continue rituals and the formality
Spirituality is for those who want to reach the Spiritual Ascent without dogmas

Religion is for those who are asleep
Spirituality is for those who are awake

Religion is for those that require guidance from others
Spirituality is for those that lend ears to their inner voice

Religion has a dogmatic and unquestionable assembly of rules that need to be followed without question
Spirituality invites you to reason it all, to question it all and to decide your actions and assume the consequences

Religion threatens and terrifies
Spirituality gives you inner peace

Religion speaks of sin and of fault
Spirituality encourages "living in the present" and not to feel remorse for which has already passed - Lift your spirit and learn from errors

Religion represses humanity, and returns us to a false paradigm
Spirituality transcends it all and makes you true to yourself

Religion is instilled from childhood, like the soup you do not you want to take
Spirituality is the food that you you seek, that satisfies you and is pleasant to the senses

Religion is not God
Spirituality is infinite consciousness and all that is - It is God

Religion invents
Spirituality discovers

Religion does not investigate and does not question
Spirituality questions everything

Religion is based on humanity, an organization with rules
Spirituality is DIVINE, WITHOUT rules

Religion is cause for division
Spirituality is cause for union

Religion seeks you so that you create
Spirituality causes you to seek

Religion continues the teachings of a sacred book
Spirituality seeks the sacredness in all the books

Religion is fed fear
Spirituality is fed confidence

Religion lives you in your thoughts
Spirituality lives in your conscience

Religion is in charge of the "to do"
Spirituality is in charge of the "to BE"

Religion is a dialectic
Spirituality is logic

Religion feeds the ego
Spirituality makes you transcend

Religion makes you renounce yourself to the world
Spirituality makes you live with God, not to renounce him

Religion is adoration
Spirituality is meditation

Religion is to continue adapting to the psychology of a template
Spirituality is individuality.

Religion dreams of glory and paradise
Spirituality makes you live it here and now

Religion lives in the past and in the future
Spirituality lives in the present, in the here and now

Religion lives in the confinement of your memory
Spirituality is LIBERTY in AWARENESS.

Religion believes in the eternal life
Spirituality makes you conscious of all that is

Religion gives you promises for the after-life
Spirituality gives you the light to find God in your inner self, in this life, in the present, in the here and the now…
May peace, happiness and universal love continue growing in your heart.

You are All That Is.


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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby MagsJ » Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:57 am

phyllo wrote:"Believe in good"

Even that is too much for the modern nihilist, who cannot cannot see a distinction between good and bad or right and wrong.
I should have focused the lens more on the right hand side of the entry gate... a rabbi, a nun, and an atheist walk into a building... but that building just happens to be a non-denominational cool-as-fuck church, which is de rigeur around here.

A worshipper is a worshipper, and a religion is a religion, and now the twain do meet.
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby James S Saint » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:45 am

Artimas wrote:
James S Saint wrote:So exactly what dasein dichotomy do you wish to create between the good spiritualist and the evil religionist?
In your mind, precisely what is "spiritualism"?


It is the recognition that all life is connected and respecting that. It is being able to study anything and all things without dogmatic principles, fear, coercion, manipulation, lies and stereotyping/judging. It is freedom of thought, which is result from getting rid of the things of which I just stated previously.

In other words, it is just a bunch of chaotic babble to make government control over everyone more supreme.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby Artimas » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:08 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Artimas wrote:
James S Saint wrote:So exactly what dasein dichotomy do you wish to create between the good spiritualist and the evil religionist?
In your mind, precisely what is "spiritualism"?


It is the recognition that all life is connected and respecting that. It is being able to study anything and all things without dogmatic principles, fear, coercion, manipulation, lies and stereotyping/judging. It is freedom of thought, which is result from getting rid of the things of which I just stated previously.

In other words, it is just a bunch of chaotic babble to make government control over everyone more supreme.


No, because govt already works with religion anyway.. It is less control for government because people will be thinking more, people thinking more is the bane of corruption in modern society.

People exposed to an idea or already made set of principles are more likely to follow it blindly instead of seeking objective truth through their own perceptions.

A "god" who deserves worship will be humble enough to reject it; A "god" who demands worship will not be worthy of it.

All smoke fades, as do all delicate mirrors shatter.

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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby Moreno » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:14 pm

Artimas wrote:
Consider these definitions:
Religion is an institution established by man for various reasons. Exert control, instill morality, stroke egos, or whatever it does. Organized, structured religions all but remove god from the equation. You confess your sins to a clergy member, go to elaborate churches to worship, told what to pray and when to pray it. All those factors remove you from god.

Spirituality is born in a person and develops in the person. It may be kick started by a religion, or it may be kick started by a revelation. Spirituality extends to all facets of a person’s life. Spirituality is chosen while religion is often times forced. Being spiritual to me is more important and better than being religious.
This would seem to mean that if you had a revelation to involve yourself in a religion, however small, the sect, you are religious, but not spiritual. On the other hand if you become spiritual from reading Alan Watts or listening to a channeler, since the source was someone else you are religious, even though they are spiritual.

True spirituality is something that is found deep within oneself. It is your way of loving, accepting and relating to the world and people around you.
So any spirituality that was not best described in this way is not spirituality. And notice that this spirituality need have no spirit in it at all. A nice atheist is spiritual, even if they 1) have no spiritual beliefs and 2) don't think about it at all, have any practices at all. Spirituality from the root spiritual meaning of or concerning the spirit. At the very least this must be a vitalist set of belief, but I would argue that it must be beliefs that have to do with what gets called supernatural entities and processes. There is not reason to use the word spiritual if these things are rule out per se by the paradigm of the user. A physicalist, for example, cannot accurately define himself as a spiritual person. He could be a wonderful or moral or giving or deeply understanding person, a great guy, a gifted relater, someone with wisdom and insight, but spiritual is not an appropriate term for him.

It cannot be found in a church or by believing in a certain way.
Consider the following in favor of the spiritual path:
There is not one religion, but hundreds
There is only one type of spirituality
Well, that seems unbelievable. Spiritualities by his definition come out of individuals based on revelations. Yet, somehow all these individuals generate the same exact spirituality.

Religion is for those who want to continue rituals and the formality
Spirituality is for those who want to reach the Spiritual Ascent without dogmas
No, and no. Wild generalities without basis.

Religion is for those who are asleep
Spirituality is for those who are awake
If you say so.

Religion is for those that require guidance from others
Spirituality is for those that lend ears to their inner voice
Ibid.

Religion has a dogmatic and unquestionable assembly of rules that need to be followed without question
In some sects, sure.
Spirituality invites you to reason it all, to question it all and to decide your actions and assume the consequences
This is not true, unless most of the spirituality section of bookstore and most spiritual speakers are not spiritual.

Religion threatens and terrifies
Spirituality gives you inner peace
Sounds like this person conflates all religion with hellfire and brimstone Christianity. Sounds like spirituality is rather new age.

Religion speaks of sin and of fault
Some does yes.
Spirituality encourages "living in the present" and not to feel remorse for which has already passed - Lift your spirit and learn from errors
But it shames those who do not do this. Holier than thou peaceful New Agers without the problems of those they judge via vibe.

Religion is cause for division
Spirituality is cause for union
The irony of this one is bigger than a breadbox.
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby James S Saint » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:48 pm

Artimas wrote:People exposed to an idea or already made set of principles are more likely to follow it blindly instead of seeking objective truth through their own perceptions.

Complete socialistic bullshit.

Artimas wrote:Spirituality is being humble. It is being open to all possibilities but weighing what has more evidence or a logical chance above that which does not.

That would be called a Rationalist. But you are talking more of the confused, confounded, downtrodden, and hypnotized socialist plebe drone who believes whatever the TV has presented to him, no matter how absurd it is (such as the 9/11 false flag, the school shooting, and reality TV).

Artimas wrote:Consider these definitions:
Religion is an institution established by man for various reasons.

So is spiritualism .. and every other "-ism".

Artimas wrote:One principal problem with attempts to separate religion from spirituality is that the former is saddled with everything negative while the latter is exalted with everything positive.

In the midst of extreme and ignorant prejudice, you are trying to proclaim guilt and innocence.

Artimas wrote:Religion is spiritual and spirituality can also be considered religious.

That is the reality of it. Religion is merely what arises from chaotic spirituality once it gets dominated.

Saying that you favor spiritualism is exactly like saying that you favor anarchy. And they are both promoted for the same reason - so as to produce a more easily dominated mindset - disorganized, confused, confounded, insecure, and desperate.
Then the bullies step in and there is no one to stop them. The Globalist "Nazis" take over, the Globzis.

"Hate what was so that you can be dominated by us."
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby CelineK » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:20 am

Wandering_Lands wrote:
Arminius wrote:Will we get a syncretistic religion?


Maybe - maybe not. I'm very sure that some people will come up with trying to tie into all religions; yet at the same time, there are all these conflicts of ideas and conflicts of people that want to fight for their 'religion' in belief that it's the 'true' religion. I know that all religion, with spirituality and metaphysics/philosophy, go back to the same source; the revelation of the Absolute. I think a more emphasis on free thought and inquiry into the nature of the Reality is more viable than simply a 'syncretistic religion'.


amen to that, and I firmly believe that as long the 7 hermetic principles are not accepted as self-existing and immutable Natural Laws, the meaning of Reality will escape many. My online free e-book expounds on those Principles and how they regulate emotions. Real Free Will begins with the full understanding and assimilation of such Natural Laws. Until then, the reptilian brain will continue to impose its cycle of destruction upon societies and fragment the human psyche.

Mind being cause and effect is the paramount of philosophy and metaphysics. I dont see how synchretism can put an end to the religious divide and conquer, unless by force, meaning a war that is so destructive that people will embrace it out of... Fear.
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby Arminius » Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:22 pm

CelineK wrote:7 hermetic principles ....

Name them please.
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby Arminius » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:12 am

Arminius wrote:
Arminius wrote:
surreptitious75 wrote:Christianity is a monotheistic religion because it has only one God. God the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost are simply different manifestations of the same God.

I know very well what you mean, and according to many but not all Christians you are right; but people of the Jewish and the Islamic religion do not agree on the statement that the trinity you are speaking of is a "manifestation" of one god and thus of monotheism. In addition, they do not agree on the statement that a god has or should have a mother, because this would mean more than one god, at least two gods. If you visit certain countries of Europe, you will see that their Christian cult has more to do with the Virgin Mary as the Mother of God than with God himself or his son Jesus (who is or is not God - this was a discussion that lasted about three centuries) or his Holy Ghost (who is or is not God - this was a discussion that lasted about three centuries). Christianity is not only characterized by division of powers (see: the Christians’ trinity and Mother of God), but also by the separation of its Church and the state (laicism) as well as by peacefulness and humanity.

surreptitious75 wrote:They are three in one not three separate from each other. Furthermore the First Commandment clearly states there is only one God.

The First Commandment clearly belongs to the Jewish religion - regardless whether it is also accepted by Christians or not.

But this is more a subject of another thread, for example the following one: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=187389 .
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Re: Will we get a syncretistic religion?

Postby James S Saint » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:07 am

Arminius wrote:
CelineK wrote:7 hermetic principles ....

Name them please.

Principle of Mentalism. (all is Mind = solipsism)
Principle of Correspondence. (all things are analogous)
Principle of Vibration. (everything vibrates)
Principle of Polarity. (everything has two asymptotes)
Principle of Rhythm. (everything is rhythmic)
Principle of Cause and Effect. (causality)
Principle of Gender. (masculine and feminine are in all things)

But don't bet on it. 8)
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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