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Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Maia » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:15 am

Sorry, but when I read all these dry, arid sterile debates about what Jesus did or did not say, or what he meant, or whatever, or whether the Christian god is good or bad (is there really any doubt?), I feel like weeping. Or laughing. And laughter is the best cure against evil.

+The Priestesses shall be taught how to direct the life-force of the earth with runic dance, mimicking the physical shapes of the runes and altering the flow of telluric (earth) energy through their bodies for specific ritual purposes. This shall also serve as a means of communication with the ancient gods of the land, by which messages and requests can be spelt out – literally – as spells.+

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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Dan~ » Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:01 am

I don't think I could ever get a magic dance to work.
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Ierrellus » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:03 pm

It is possible that our ancestors in 30,000 BCE, practiced a sort of runic or sympathetic magic. Drawings on cave walls and ritual reinactment of the hunt may have been used to assure success in the hunt. The same sort of sympathetic magic was practiced by natives who did dances to cause rain or success in battle. In short, sympathetic magic or the belief that certain things done will cause other things to be done is prehistoric.
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Ierrellus » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:03 pm

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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Maia » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:34 pm

Ierrellus wrote:It is possible that our ancestors in 30,000 BCE, practiced a sort of runic or sympathetic magic. Drawings on cave walls and ritual reinactment of the hunt may have been used to assure success in the hunt. The same sort of sympathetic magic was practiced by natives who did dances to cause rain or success in battle. In short, sympathetic magic or the belief that certain things done will cause other things to be done is prehistoric.


That's exactly right, it is as old as the human race, probably older, and is instinctive within us.
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby statiktech » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:11 pm

It's called magical thinking and it's really only instinctual inasmuch as our notions of, and assumptions about, causality are instinctual.
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Maia » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:18 pm

statiktech wrote:It's called magical thinking and it's really only instinctual inasmuch as our notions of, and assumptions about, causality are instinctual.


Like all our instincts it has evolved for a very good reason. Namely, because it works.
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby statiktech » Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:43 pm

It sure does, which is why placebos are effective.
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:05 pm

What's the life force of the earth? Can it be explained by physics?
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Maia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:04 am

statiktech wrote:It sure does, which is why placebos are effective.


Things that work are not always placebos.
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Maia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:04 am

mr reasonable wrote:What's the life force of the earth? Can it be explained by physics?


What's physics? Can it be explained by the life force of the earth?
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:33 am

I'll take that as your concession that you're not making any sense here.
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Dan~ » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:36 am

Life force has to do with living and semi living energies. It's a catch all phrase sometimes.
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Ierrellus » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:45 pm

Sympathetic magic is alive and well in fundamentalistic, faith healing Christian churches. Benny Hinn relies on it.
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby turtle » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:55 pm

the important jesus message is how to treat other people with kindness...
I am not sure what becoming a rune dancing priestess does for you...
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Maia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:55 pm

turtle wrote:the important jesus message is how to treat other people with kindness...
I am not sure what becoming a rune dancing priestess does for you...


Jesus was not the first to come up with that idea and like all monotheistic religions, it comes with a whole load of authoritarian baggage.

Paganism is all about experiencing the divine, and not about being told what to believe.
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby turtle » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:42 pm

Maia wrote:
turtle wrote:the important jesus message is how to treat other people with kindness...
I am not sure what becoming a rune dancing priestess does for you...


Jesus was not the first to come up with that idea and like all monotheistic religions, it comes with a whole load of authoritarian baggage.

Paganism is all about experiencing the divine, and not about being told what to believe.


you are right about that...cant we have both nature and jesus
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Maia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:51 pm

turtle wrote:
Maia wrote:
turtle wrote:the important jesus message is how to treat other people with kindness...
I am not sure what becoming a rune dancing priestess does for you...


Jesus was not the first to come up with that idea and like all monotheistic religions, it comes with a whole load of authoritarian baggage.

Paganism is all about experiencing the divine, and not about being told what to believe.


you are right about that...cant we have both nature and jesus


Jesus represents monotheism, and is just one of a long line of self-styled prophets telling others what to do. Monotheism is the antithesis of Paganism, the de-sacralising of nature and life.
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby turtle » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:06 pm

Jesus was not the first to come up with that idea and like all monotheistic religions, it comes with a whole load of authoritarian baggage.

Paganism is all about experiencing the divine, and not about being told what to believe.[/quote]

you are right about that...cant we have both nature and jesus[/quote]

Jesus represents monotheism, and is just one of a long line of self-styled prophets telling others what to do. Monotheism is the antithesis of Paganism, the de-sacralising of nature and life.[/quote]

but maia -----lets forget jesus....what about the golden rule...
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Maia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:15 pm

What's the golden rule?
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby turtle » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:32 pm

Maia wrote:What's the golden rule?

please see ted talk by Karen Armstrong...
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Ierrellus » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:48 pm

I still cannot see how a type of coping done in the infancy of the human race can be valid now in our adolescence. (The race has not yet approached maturity.) Shouldn't we move on and put away childish things?
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby turtle » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:11 pm

Ierrellus wrote:I still cannot see how a type of coping done in the infancy of the human race can be valid now in our adolescence. (The race has not yet approached maturity.) Shouldn't we move on and put away childish things?


I don't think this is "childish things"...after church yesterday I find the resurrection of jesus to be a big problem for me...
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Ierrellus » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:17 pm

turtle wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:I still cannot see how a type of coping done in the infancy of the human race can be valid now in our adolescence. (The race has not yet approached maturity.) Shouldn't we move on and put away childish things?


I don't think this is "childish things"...after church yesterday I find the resurrection of jesus to be a big problem for me...

Resurrection of Jesus has nothing to do with runic (sympathetic) magic. It has to do with aspiring that what we see in the flesh is not the whole picture of reality. Jesus has more to do with hope than with magic. The resurrection could also be of your own renewal. For me the resurrection is proved in jonquils that pop through soil that appeared dead in winter.
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Re: Becoming a rune dancing priestess

Postby Ierrellus » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:17 pm

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