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Socratus: Metaphysics ( science and religion)

Postby socratus » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:07 am

Socratus: Metaphysics ( science and religion)
==.
Physics and Religion:
a) T=0K
b) c/d=pi, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, h=0, c=0
Mathematics and Religion:
i^2= -1, e^ipi= -1
Biology and Religion:
Vitalism
Practice and Religion:
Meditation, Parapsychology.
==.
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Re: Socratus: Metaphysics ( science and religion)

Postby felix dakat » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:21 pm

socratus wrote:Socratus: Metaphysics ( science and religion)
==.
Physics and Religion:
a) T=0K
b) c/d=pi, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, h=0, c=0
Mathematics and Religion:
i^2= -1, e^ipi= -1
Biology and Religion:
Vitalism
Practice and Religion:
Meditation, Parapsychology.
==.
Israel Socratus


I'll be the first to admit I can't follow this. Maybe if you define your terms it would help. I'm just asking...
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Re: Socratus: Metaphysics ( science and religion)

Postby Typist » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:15 pm

He's saying that there's three slices of pizza left in the frig if anybody wants them. You just have to be familiar with the equations.
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Re: Socratus: Metaphysics ( science and religion)

Postby socratus » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:02 pm

Aristotle said that before physics the metaphysics existed.
How can we understand him today ?
My question:
Does knowledge begin from Newtonian classic physics or
from Planck’s quantum physics ?
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Re: Socratus: Metaphysics ( science and religion)

Postby Moreno » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:21 pm

socratus wrote:Aristotle said that before physics the metaphysics existed.
How can we understand him today ?
My question:
Does knowledge begin from Newtonian classic physics or
from Planck’s quantum physics ?
==.
It really can't start with either one of those, though perhaps that what you meant with the Aristotle quote. Imagine someone starting their knowledge base with QM...How does one start there? It's hard enough for people who have already built up a bunch of tools to come at new knowledge.
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Re: Socratus: Metaphysics ( science and religion)

Postby Ierrellus » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:24 pm

Why separate these things when they are all positions in an evolving sense of what reality is?
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Re: Socratus: Metaphysics ( science and religion)

Postby socratus » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:51 pm

Historically the modern physics began from Newton and
electromagnetics theories and as result we came to conclusion
that the knowledge must be started from quantum’s theories.
=.
Isn’t this our way?
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Re: Socratus: Metaphysics ( science and religion)

Postby Moreno » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:54 pm

socratus wrote:Historically the modern physics began from Newton and
electromagnetics theories and as result we came to conclusion
that the knowledge must be started from quantum’s theories.
=.
Isn’t this our way?
So historically physics began with Newton, though Newton was also building on the ideas of others. And then no individual can begin with either QM or Newton. They can be flung at an infant, but I am not sure of the result. So on both the individual and historical levels, it seems to me you cannot begin with either one.

I liked the irony in what I quoted above. Modern phyics began with Newton and this led to starting knowledge from QM. For me start and begin are synonyms.
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Re: Socratus: Metaphysics ( science and religion)

Postby Selah7+ » Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:01 am

Typist wrote:He's saying that there's three slices of pizza left in the frig if anybody wants them. You just have to be familiar with the equations.

Typist, you are hilarious! I am laughing out loud!!!
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Re: Socratus: Metaphysics ( science and religion)

Postby socratus » Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:43 pm

Moreno wrote:
I liked the irony in what I quoted above.
Modern phyics began with Newton and this led to starting knowledge from QM.
For me start and begin are synonyms.


Why this quote is irony ?
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