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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Lev Muishkin » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:33 am

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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Ierrellus » Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:57 pm

Prudence is an ugly old maid courted by incapacity.---Wm. Blake
"We must love one another or die." W.H.Auden
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Ierrellus » Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:57 pm

The fox blames the trap, not himself.---Wm. Blake
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Moreno » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:43 am

Either you are a hypocrite or your beliefs are suspiciously convenient ones.

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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Lev Muishkin » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:58 am

Ierrellus wrote:Prudence is an ugly old maid courted by incapacity.---Wm. Blake


The love of economy is the root of all virtue.
George Bernard Shaw

"Science is entirely Faith Based.... Obama is Muslim....Evil is the opposition to life (e-v-i-l <=> l-i-v-e ... and not by accident). Without evil there could be no life.", James S. Saint.
"The Holocaust was the fault of the Jews; The Holocaust was not genocide", Kriswest
"A Tortoise is a Turtle", Wizard
" Hitler didn't create the Nazis. In reality, the Judists did ... for a purpose of their own. Hitler was merely one they chose to head it up after they discovered the Judist betrayal in WW1, their "Judas Iscariot";James S Saint.
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby frost » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:29 am

"In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life. It goes on." -Robert Frost
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Ierrellus » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:38 pm

Lev Muishkin wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:Prudence is an ugly old maid courted by incapacity.---Wm. Blake


The love of economy is the root of all virtue.
George Bernard Shaw

Could this have a flipside? The love of virtue is the root of all economy.
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:01 pm

Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the men of old; seek what they sought.
—Basho



I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter.
—Blaise Pascal
(something poignant about that). :?:
SAPERE AUDE!


If I thought that everything I did was determined by my circumstancse and my psychological condition, I would feel trapped.


What we take ourselves to be doing when we think about what is the case or how we should act is something that cannot be reconciled with a reductive naturalism, for reasons distinct from those that entail the irreducibility of consciousness. It is not merely the subjectivity of thought but its capacity to transcend subjectivity and to discover what is objectively the case that presents a problem....Thought and reasoning are correct or incorrect in virtue of something independent of the thinker's beliefs, and even independent of the community of thinkers to which he belongs.

Thomas Nagel


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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Ierrellus » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:41 pm

"Prisons are built with stones of Law, Brothels with bricks of religion."--Wm. Blake
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby James S Saint » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:49 pm

Ierrellus wrote:The love of virtue is the root of all economy.

:wink:
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Ierrellus » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:52 pm

"Since all the Riches of this World
May be the gifts from the Devil & Earthly Kings,
I should suspect that I worship'd the Devil
If I thanked my God for Worldy things."--Wm. Blake
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:45 pm

Get yourself out of the way, and let joy have more space.”
― Rumi
SAPERE AUDE!


If I thought that everything I did was determined by my circumstancse and my psychological condition, I would feel trapped.


What we take ourselves to be doing when we think about what is the case or how we should act is something that cannot be reconciled with a reductive naturalism, for reasons distinct from those that entail the irreducibility of consciousness. It is not merely the subjectivity of thought but its capacity to transcend subjectivity and to discover what is objectively the case that presents a problem....Thought and reasoning are correct or incorrect in virtue of something independent of the thinker's beliefs, and even independent of the community of thinkers to which he belongs.

Thomas Nagel


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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:45 pm

“you are a volume in the divine book
a mirror to the power that created the universe
whatever you want, ask it of yourself
whatever you're looking for can only be found
inside of you”
― Rumi, The Poetry of Jalaluddin Rumi

shivers
SAPERE AUDE!


If I thought that everything I did was determined by my circumstancse and my psychological condition, I would feel trapped.


What we take ourselves to be doing when we think about what is the case or how we should act is something that cannot be reconciled with a reductive naturalism, for reasons distinct from those that entail the irreducibility of consciousness. It is not merely the subjectivity of thought but its capacity to transcend subjectivity and to discover what is objectively the case that presents a problem....Thought and reasoning are correct or incorrect in virtue of something independent of the thinker's beliefs, and even independent of the community of thinkers to which he belongs.

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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Ierrellus » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:50 pm

"The astrolabe of the mysteries of God is love".--Rumi
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Ierrellus » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:50 pm

"God, if I worship Thee in fear of hell, burn me in hell. And if I worship Thee in hope of Paradise, exclude me from Paradise; but if I worship Thee for Thine own sake, withhold not Thine everlasting Beauty."--Rabi'a (A Sufi saint.)
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:12 pm

To see a World in a grain of sand,
And a Heaven in a wild flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand,
And Eternity in an hour.”
― William Blake, Auguries of Innocence
SAPERE AUDE!


If I thought that everything I did was determined by my circumstancse and my psychological condition, I would feel trapped.


What we take ourselves to be doing when we think about what is the case or how we should act is something that cannot be reconciled with a reductive naturalism, for reasons distinct from those that entail the irreducibility of consciousness. It is not merely the subjectivity of thought but its capacity to transcend subjectivity and to discover what is objectively the case that presents a problem....Thought and reasoning are correct or incorrect in virtue of something independent of the thinker's beliefs, and even independent of the community of thinkers to which he belongs.

Thomas Nagel


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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Ierrellus » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:10 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:To see a World in a grain of sand,
And a Heaven in a wild flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand,
And Eternity in an hour.”
― William Blake, Auguries of Innocence

Thanks. When I was a young man, Blake woke me from my "dogmatic slumber".
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Ierrellus » Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:57 pm

"We make an idol of truth itself; for truth apart from charity is not God, but his image and idol, which we must neither love nor worship."--Pascal
"We must love one another or die." W.H.Auden
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Lev Muishkin » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:38 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:
Lev Muishkin wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:"God, if I worship Thee in fear of hell, burn me in hell. And if I worship Thee in hope of Paradise, exclude me from Paradise; but if I worship Thee for Thine own sake, withhold not Thine everlasting Beauty."--Rabi'a (A Sufi saint.)


I presume that God will do as he is told?

You took this as a command to god?


There are three direct instructions here.
Burn me in Hell!
Exclude me from paradise!
and withold not thine beauty!

"Science is entirely Faith Based.... Obama is Muslim....Evil is the opposition to life (e-v-i-l <=> l-i-v-e ... and not by accident). Without evil there could be no life.", James S. Saint.
"The Holocaust was the fault of the Jews; The Holocaust was not genocide", Kriswest
"A Tortoise is a Turtle", Wizard
" Hitler didn't create the Nazis. In reality, the Judists did ... for a purpose of their own. Hitler was merely one they chose to head it up after they discovered the Judist betrayal in WW1, their "Judas Iscariot";James S Saint.
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Ierrellus » Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:32 pm

It does not take many words to speak the truth.--Chief Joseph
"We must love one another or die." W.H.Auden
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:00 pm

In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell

So true...
SAPERE AUDE!


If I thought that everything I did was determined by my circumstancse and my psychological condition, I would feel trapped.


What we take ourselves to be doing when we think about what is the case or how we should act is something that cannot be reconciled with a reductive naturalism, for reasons distinct from those that entail the irreducibility of consciousness. It is not merely the subjectivity of thought but its capacity to transcend subjectivity and to discover what is objectively the case that presents a problem....Thought and reasoning are correct or incorrect in virtue of something independent of the thinker's beliefs, and even independent of the community of thinkers to which he belongs.

Thomas Nagel


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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby KnowingsGift » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:52 pm

ochaye wrote:All of man’s misfortune comes from one thing, which is not knowing how to sit quietly in a room. Blaise Pascal


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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Ierrellus » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:49 pm

Simplicity--
"A simple heart will love all that is most precious on earth, husband or wife, parent or child, brother or friend, without marring its singleness. . ."-N. Grou
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Ierrellus » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:25 pm

Ierrellus wrote:Simplicity--
"A simple heart will love all that is most precious on earth, husband or wife, parent or child, brother or friend, without marring its singleness. . ."-N. Grou

Grou is simply saying that you can love a person without trying to change him/her. , that you should respect the integrity of another.
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Ierrellus » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:25 pm

"Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment;
Cleverness is mere opinion, bewilderment is intuition."--Rumi
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