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Postby phyllo » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:47 pm

Donald Trump has admitted to making off-the-record remarks saying the U.S. is in total command of NAFTA talks and that it will make no compromises to reach a deal with Canada.

The Toronto Star reported Friday that Trump, in an interview with Bloomberg News, said the U.S. is unwilling to make concessions and that his position was "going to be so insulting they're [Canada] not going to be able to make a deal." CBC has not independently verified the comments.

Trump admitted on Twitter that he made the comments to Bloomberg on Friday, claiming an understanding with the news agency that his comments were off-the-record was "blatantly violated."

"Oh well, just more dishonest reporting. I am used to it. At least Canada knows where I stand!" he tweeted. ... -1.4806240

We already knew that the US was not negotiating in good faith.
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Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:12 pm

I think Trump needs to give Canada some brilliant favour, outside of anything contracted now.

There is too much to be gained. I have no information to go by so I can only suspect that Trump is doing the capitalist thing and Trudeau is doing the socialistic thing. Canada would have a lot to gain by a deal, especially I would venture as a portion of the Commonwealth. I really must insist that the Anglosaxon empire is consolidated on American terms, simply because it has been the most magnificent extension of the culture.

On the other hand maybe Canada would do well to keep a big fat unfriendly border between itself and Mexico.
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Postby Karpel Tunnel » Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:13 am

These deals are fundamentally anti-democratic and are shift of power to corporations. No government can stop a business from doing whatever in the countries or it will be seen as anti-trade. You cannot vote in certain kinds of labor practices, you cannot protect your farmers so that they can grow food crops rather than tobacco, you cannot stop all sorts of radical ownership programs the corporations want, you cannot resist privitization, A FUCKING COURT MADE UP OF CORPORATE LAWYERS will tell your nation what they can and cannot vote on and they will financially punish anyone who gets in the way of what those corporations want.

It's not The US vs. Mexico vs. Canada.

It's corporate rights, period.
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