Trump enters the stage

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Re: Trump enters the stage

Postby obsrvr524 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:23 pm

Fox News; Ed Henry wrote:Giuliani also denied a recent Wall Street Journal report stating that he would personally profit from a natural gas pipeline in Ukraine was false and that he was "not going to financially profit from anything that [he] knows of in the Ukraine."

"I can't keep up from the amount of false information printed about me," he exclaimed.

The New York Times and The Washington Post have been caught lying very often since Trump got on the US political stage. They don't lie as badly as CNN, but still. When it comes to politics, they have zero credibility.
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Re: Trump enters the stage.- Impeachment is "unacceptable" !

Postby Meno_ » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:09 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:
Fox News; Ed Henry wrote:Giuliani also denied a recent Wall Street Journal report stating that he would personally profit from a natural gas pipeline in Ukraine was false and that he was "not going to financially profit from anything that [he] knows of in the Ukraine."

"I can't keep up from the amount of false information printed about me," he exclaimed.

The New York Times and The Washington Post have been caught lying very often since Trump got on the US political stage. They don't lie as badly as CNN, but still. When it comes to politics, they have zero credibility.



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{Yes, that is near absolutely true. But in another sense, the public has had far more political awareness than being given credit for lately, and the zero sum aspect of data, that senses and directs public opinion has altered political correctness significantly nowedays.
In particular, the absolute opined measures have translated into this change, by more use of relatively inspired, skeptical devalued reliance on other public opinions, emerging markets of opinions, as admixstures
of variability and proximate truth.

Quantified, the relative erosion of truth can be seen as an an adjunct of computation ofand denigration to an acceptable level of uncertainty, whereby falsity and truth becoming conflated themselves -can adapt a different procedural language -, which , according to the Republicans reduces the significance of formal rule to the letter of the law.
Hence the vocabulary of collusion can be enumerated into another language based on a probable distinction of how politics are conducted.
Such conduct can be argued, changes the stage upon which international focus, deals have to take place, out of the media spotlight.
This point was argued by detractors, who saw political dealings of the Trumpism as fairly common methods, the faults becoming. the ones, where fact finding by intelligence lost it's covert aspect.
This is why it became an asset to institute a clown into top , -(topical)-performances, since there, the procedures and the performance of applying laws became seen as intertwined .
The universal order of an emerging new world needed more transparency, and that transparency could not have been revealed without substantial bending of rules deriving from the methods by which procedure had to accommodate them.
The Republican inversion of no procedural oversight, was a genius of managed intelligence, that reduced the Dems, to a public sentiment of childish understanding, (a slap to the middle class, of the middle of the road sentiments that became the movers toward conservatism as a solution)

This inversion did not fit well with the view that it be transparent, and that lack led to a necessary cover.

But, the cover up so obvious during Watergate , needed a higher intelligence with Trump, considering the entrance of Capitalism into world market policies. Recall the earliest corruption with Dad Capital, and that work being a primary source of Sentiment, reacting the extreme methods by which it became an appearent mode of production to sustain it's self! Only after, this large gap was reduced to a tolerated procedure of daily affairs, could the rules that govern them were instituted.

The management , by which such policy genius could be instituted, became a necessary procedure, hence giving rise to the anomaly, and the characterization of Trump as 'genius'
merely elicited the political genius of political science to control it's unassailable symbol: Mr. Trump.

Hence genius of the one dimensional man, can transcend the evil in the Descartes era into the post Nietzchean stage that brought political collusion out of it's negatively loaded connotation.

All this is accommodation, a necessary procedural one, that became the inverted battle cry of the Republicans against the Democrats(-, in effect destabilizing the rules- by which the impeachment hearings were conducted.)-could the hearings move on to higher uses of oversight and adjudication.

The media are mere pawns in this effort to arrive at some approximated zero sum, a quasi synthesis of several dialectical layers, rather than either a substantially material one or, one that is purely academic.
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Trump at a brain dead NATO- French President Macron says




As he left the White House for London, President Donald Trump complained the House Judiciary Committee will hold an impeachment inquiry hearing while he attends a NATO summit that comes at a critical moment for the 70-year-old military alliance. (Dec. 2)
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Blasting Democrats and their investigation of him from overseas, President Donald Trump said Tuesday he does not deserve censure or impeachment for his actions with regard to Ukraine.


“Unacceptable," Trump told reporters during a meeting in London with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg. "I did nothing wrong ... You don’t censure somebody when they did nothing wrong."

Trump also said Democrats are "unpatriotic" for pursuing impeachment in the way they are doing it, accusing them of looking at evidence of wrongdoing that justify such a sanction.

Some political commentators have suggested censure as an alternative to a House impeachment vote and trial in the Senate. But there is no evidence the idea has taken hold among House Democrats who are pursuing an impeachment inquiry over Trump and Ukraine.


The House Intelligence Committee is putting out a report saying Trump tried to get Ukraine to investigate U.S. Democratic political opponent Joe Biden, and threatened to withhold aid from Eastern European country if it did not comply with his request.



More: While focus is on Ukraine, here's the evidence committees have compiled to bolster Trump impeachment case

Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, noted that Trump has also said China should investigate Biden and his son Hunter Biden, who has had business interests in China and Ukraine.

"President Trump has sought foreign intervention in US elections—twice," Schiff tweeted. "He poses a real and present danger to the integrity of the next election."

Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee have prepared their own report defending Trump.

In the meantime, the House Judiciary Committee, which is expected to draw up impeachment articles against Trump, has a hearing set for Wednesday, the day Trump is scheduled to return to Washington from the NATO meetings in London.

Trump, who flew out Monday, has attacked the impeachment process and congressional Democrats throughout his trip.

"The impeachment is going nowhere," Trump said Tuesday with Stoltenberg at his side. "They are wasting their time. It’s a disgrace.”

Originally Published 1 hour ago

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Are the Democrats crazy to try to go after Trump? Or maybe , paranoia has literally arisen from the level of latent hate that the Republicans project unto the unfathomable abyss?
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Re: Trump enters the stage judicial hearings tomorrow

Postby Meno_ » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:50 am

Wednesday’s hearing will address constitutional grounds for impeachment. Democrats invited three witnesses — Noah Feldman of Harvard Law School, Pamela S. Karlan of Stanford Law School and Michael J. Gerhardt of the University of North Carolina Law School — and Republicans invited Jonathan Turley of the George Washington University Law School. All are scholars of constitutional law.

{Let's see how this goes down}
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Re: Trump enters the stage law professors on hill

Postby Meno_ » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:11 pm

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Impeachment hearings live updates: Scholars called by Democrats testify that Trump’s conduct is grounds for removal from office
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Dec. 4, 2019 at 10:51 a.m. PST

Three constitutional scholars summoned by Democrats are testifying Wednesday that President Trump’s conduct toward Ukraine rises to the level of impeachment, as the inquiry moves to a new phase with the first hearing by the House Judiciary Committee, a panel prone to theatrics and partisan brawls.

Another law school professor, tapped by Republicans, is cautioning against impeachment. The focus has shifted from the House Intelligence Committee, which voted along party lines Tuesday to approve a 300-page report that concluded Trump had “compromised national security to advance his personal political interests.”

Impeachment: What you need to read
Updated December 3, 2019
Here’s what you need to know to understand the impeachment inquiry into President Trump.

What’s happening now: The House Intelligence Committee sent the report summarizing its findings after two weeks of public hearings to the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday, paving the way for possible articles of impeachment. The public hearings followed closed-door hearings and subpoenaed documents related to the president’s July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

What happens next: The Judiciary Committee has scheduled its first impeachment hearing for Wednesday. President Trump was invited to participate, but White House counsel declined. Here’s a guide to how impeachment works.





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Re: Trump enters the stage Big problems for Trump

Postby Meno_ » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:26 am

The New York Times

Mocked Abroad and Assailed at Home, Trump Returns to Face Impeachment
Two days in London on the world stage provided him no respite.




By Peter Baker
Dec. 4, 2019
WASHINGTON — When times turn tough, presidents can hop on Air Force One to escape the country for a while and stride purposefully across the world stage. But the world stage was not so friendly this week for President Trump, who landed back in Washington on Wednesday night to confront a grim couple of weeks ahead.

Mocked by peers behind his back at a NATO meeting in London, Mr. Trump abruptly canceled a news conference and bolted early, only to fly home to a capital in the throes of judging whether he is fit for office. After hobnobbing with the queen, the president now faces the daunting likelihood that by Christmas he will become the third president impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors.

The NATO meeting had seemed like an opportunity to demonstrate his global leadership like Presidents Richard M. Nixon and Bill Clinton sought to do with overseas trips during their own impeachment struggles. Scheduled long ago, the meeting allowed Mr. Trump and his allies to assail his domestic foes as “unpatriotic” for proceeding with an impeachment hearing while the commander in chief was overseas and gave him a chance to boast of his success in pressing the allies to invest more in defense.

But the visit was soured by a contentious meeting with President Emmanuel Macron of France and a hot-mic video that captured other world leaders making fun of Mr. Trump. In response, a sullen president said one of the leaders caught talking on the video, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada, was “two-faced,” and then slipped out of town without the scheduled wrap-up session with reporters, seemingly intent on not further spoiling the image of a successful visit.

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“The Fake News Media is doing everything possible to belittle my VERY successful trip to London for NATO,” he wrote on Twitter as Air Force One streaked across the Atlantic. “I got along great with the NATO leaders,” he added, claiming credit for persuading them to increase their military spending, although wildly inflating the actual numbers. “No increase for U.S., only deep respect!”

Quarreling with foreign leaders, of course, never troubled Mr. Trump before and in some ways has domestic political appeal with a Republican base that cheers on his defiance.

“The president has never been much bothered by shaking up international conventions, so tussling with foreign leaders, by those standards, isn’t a bad thing from his perspective,” said Antonia Ferrier, a former aide to Senator Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the majority leader. “For many Americans, having their president stand up to foreign leaders is a sign of strength.”


Sam Nunberg, a former political adviser to Mr. Trump, said the optics of the London visit would appeal to different elements of his base. “He held contentious press conferences with world leaders who are disdained in conservative circles while also getting the all important 10 Downing Street visit and greeting with the queen at Buckingham Palace, which always plays well with mid and high income voters,” he said.

Still, Mr. Trump seemed bothered by the conversation between the other leaders. Mr. Trudeau seemed to deride Mr. Trump for going off schedule to answer questions from reporters on Tuesday. “He was late because he takes a 40-minute news conference at the top,” the prime minister told Mr. Macron, Prime Minister Mark Rutte of the Netherlands, Prime Minister Boris Johnson of Britain and Princess Anne.

“You just watch his team’s jaws drop to the floor,” Mr. Trudeau said at another point in the video, expressing astonishment at Mr. Trump’s behavior. The other leaders are seen smiling in seeming sympathy or adding their own unheard comments to the discussion.

The overheard conversation came after Mr. Trump and Mr. Macron had engaged in a somewhat testy public session earlier in the day. “Let’s be serious,” Mr. Macron chided the president at one point during a discussion of Islamic State fighters.


At a separate session with reporters, Mr. Trump had complained that Mr. Macron’s recent comments bemoaning American disengagement with NATO had been “very, very nasty.”

The joking may have touched a nerve with Mr. Trump, who has long resented elites he felt did not show him proper respect or welcome him into their circles, whether it was Manhattan business titans or Washington political veterans. He visibly seethed in 2011 when President Barack Obama ridiculed him from stage during a black-tie Washington dinner.

“Trump doesn’t just want to be in the club, he wants to be the unquestioned leader and center of attention,” said Gwenda Blair, a Trump biographer. “It had to be both humiliating and infuriating that the other heads of state who were mocking him were untouchable by tweet or insulting nickname, but no doubt he was already calculating the next round of tariffs he would send their way.”

Foreign trips were a relief for Mr. Nixon and Mr. Clinton at similar points in their presidencies. As Watergate bore down in the summer of 1974, Mr. Nixon traveled to the Middle East and then the Soviet Union, reinforcing his peacemaking initiatives. Mr. Clinton similarly headed to Russia and Northern Ireland just after a grand jury appearance in 1998 and then later in the fall to the Middle East.


But in both cases, any relief was short-lived. Mr. Nixon ended up resigning weeks after getting home, and Mr. Clinton was impeached by the House only days after his return. The complaints about impeachment interfering with foreign policy rang loud then as well; Mr. Clinton was in the midst of bombing Iraq for defying international weapons inspectors even as the House took its vote.

There is no escape for Mr. Trump either, not in foreign cities, not in the Oval Office and not on the television he stares at upstairs in the White House for hours each day. His presidency is tethered to impeachment, his legislative agenda mostly on hold, his foreign policy overshadowed, his re-election on the line. He takes refuge in the boisterous and jampacked campaign rallies he holds and in the morning and evening lineups on Fox News.

While in London, Mr. Trump defiantly declared he would not watch the opening of the House Judiciary Committee’s impeachment hearings because he would be too busy conducting affairs of state, even as he lashed out at Democrats as “deranged,” “sick,” “nuts,” “crazy” and, in one case, a “maniac.” But while his blue-and-white jet headed back to Washington, he (or aides operating his account in his name) nonetheless blitzed out a couple dozen tweets recirculating posts from Republican allies castigating the hearing as it progressed.

At the White House in his absence, the atmosphere was somewhat surreal. The televisions around the building were tuned to the various news networks, especially Fox News, as they broadcast the hearing, but the volume was usually muted and aides sought to go about their business.


The White House refused to participate in the hearing, arguing that the process has been rigged by partisan Democrats, but it did send a couple of aides to sit in the hearing room and monitor the proceedings.

The assumption there, as elsewhere, was that the hearing changed no minds and the course of the next few weeks is already set — the House will probably vote by the end of the year to impeach along party lines, and the Senate will then hold a trial in which the president will not be convicted, setting him up to litigate the case during his re-election campaign.

“While I wouldn’t say impeachment is a good thing for the president, it is a highly divisive and partisan issue breaking down on party lines,” Ms. Ferrier said. “It has not changed people’s minds on the president. His approval ratings are remarkably consistent, in particular with Republican voters, and he clearly relishes a fight.”

But some who have been through this before said it was hard to put it aside. Dennis Ross, a foreign policy specialist who accompanied Mr. Clinton on his trip to the Middle East days before he was impeached, said that an impeachment vote remains part of a president’s legacy, even if it does not lead to his removal.


“Even though he may feel that he will be acquitted in the Senate because Republicans will not break ranks, and however much he tries to turn this to his advantage at a later point, the truth is no matter how you slice, it you can’t run away from the fact you were one of the few presidents who was impeached,” Mr. Ross said. “He obviously likes to be singled out, but not like this.”


Text from the Constitution was displayed Wednesday during the House Judiciary Committee hearing.Credit...Erin Schaff/The New York Times
Trump Abruptly Exits NATO Gathering After Embarrassing Video EmergesDec. 4, 2019
In Tense Exchange, Trump and Macron Put Forth Dueling Visions for NATODec. 3, 2019
Scholars Call Trump’s Actions on Ukraine an Impeachable Abuse of PowerDec. 4, 2019
Trump’s Lawyers Won’t Participate in Impeachment Hearing on WednesdayDec. 1, 2019
Peter Baker is the chief White House correspondent and has covered the last four presidents for The Times and The Washington Post. He also is the author of five books, most recently “Impeachment: An American History.” @peterbakernyt • Facebook






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Re: Trump enters the stage

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:12 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:The New York Times and The Washington Post have been caught lying very often since Trump got on the US political stage. They don't lie as badly as CNN, but still. When it comes to politics, they have zero credibility.

Very true,

The Liberal-Left Media Conglomerate: Yahoo, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, Washington Post, NY Times, etc.

All a bunch of fucking disgusting liars, degenerates.


90% of US Media is lined-up against Trump. It's a disgrace to this country.
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Re: Trump enters the stage Big problems for Trump

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:17 pm

Meno_ wrote:Credit...Erin Schaff/The New York Times
Trump Abruptly Exits NATO Gathering After Embarrassing Video EmergesDec. 4, 2019

Perfect example of the Lies right here.

As-if the "Abrupt Exit" has anything to do with the "embarrassing video". These fucking liars know no depths of depravity. "Abrupt" exit, instead of just a regular exit? These liars don't know how or why Trump does what he does. They don't know the reason. They make everything up. They say "Abrupt Exit" and "embarrassing video" as-if there were any sort of connection between the two when there's not. NO CONNECTION. Trump probably left for an unknown, to the public, reason. Secondly, "embarrassing" video, is it really embarrassing what these foreign faggot leaders care or think? As-if they rule America? As-if they have more authority than US? As-if their opinion matters? These liberal-leftists should go live in their countries. Anti-American. Traitors.

If you're an American, you stand by your President when confronted by foreign enemies or "allies" pretending to be an ally.

Lastly, these foreign "leaders" are ten-times the embarrassment of what's presumed here. Canada, France, EU? Pathetic leaders. Trump is right, by the way, these foreign countries have been "taking off the top", taking billions and billions of OUR MONEY for free, for nothing to benefit US. Democrats-Liberals have sold US down the river. Trump is actually getting our money back.

Fuck you!
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