Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:28 pm

It's a fact that the dude doesn't know about the facts, so there shouldn't be a problem with stating that unless you mean that we ought not state facts.

There's a long running debate in philosophy as to whether reason ought be the slave of passion or vice versa. I assumed that everyone knew all about that since it's 101 level stuff. If you think it's not relevant to point out when someone is doing it wrong, then you've should explain why. Stuff isn't wrong just because you don't like it. And if you want to have passion first and then reason from it, then go and be an artist.
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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby Silhouette » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:09 pm

Always believe clickbait titles and "revealed" truth in general.

Because of course there is only a single simple reason for issues such as mass shootings and those performing the shootings are typically leftist with their gun fetishes and fantasies of fame or infamy?!

FC, I used to regard you as a thinker - what happened? Since I returned you've turned into this alt-right sensationalist mouthpiece - I am presuming this is an extension of some profound ethical insight that you should turn out this way?
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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby Mr Reasonable » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:39 am

He's upset about the erosion of European culture that's resulting from mass migrations of Arabs out of places that the US is bombing. He thinks that Trump has got the right idea, but he's not connecting the dots about the differences between American and European cultures on the ground.

Like if your city had been overrun by people from someplace else and your government, or the people there were too weak to stop it, and you were super proud of your homeland and your culture the way some Europeans are, then you'd be pretty pissed off. But the US isn't being overrun, and the government here is strong enough to stop it from getting out of hand, and the people of the US don't care too much about the esoteric aspects of culture in the way that Europeans do. So from his perspective Trump is good, even though Trump is actually very bad for the US.
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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby URUZ » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:33 pm

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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby Carleas » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:48 pm

UrGod, what are you doing? CNN hasn't been mentioned in this thread, much less cited.

It's a bit ironic to use a tribal non-sequitur to lay allegations of "spin".
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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:57 pm

He's failing to respond to the posts and attempting to derail a thread.
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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby URUZ » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:07 pm

Not at all, I am making a point about intellectual dishonesty. I am entirely unsurprised that the point went over all of your heads.
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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:46 am

Nothing funnier than watching an idiot pretend to be the smart guy in the room.
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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby URUZ » Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:35 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:Nothing funnier than watching an idiot pretend to be the smart guy in the room.


Go ahead and make an actual argument and we will see who the idiot is.

I suppose that is why you never make any... actual arguments.
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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:11 pm

Like the one you just responded to with a picture of a washing machine?
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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby Silhouette » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:35 pm

Post a meme to win an argument, Smears.
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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby Meno_ » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:48 pm

You can't post arguments on the basis of pointing to obvious differences between figurative and literal interpretations.
All that's achieved in that case is a regression to duality, of whose basis is usually grounded in emotionalism.

And emotionalism takes away from effective communication.
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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby Mr Reasonable » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:38 am

Like I said earlier in this thread, a point to which he's yet to respond...I think he's too emotional to have an actual debate. He's reasoning from his feelings instead of deriving his feelings from reason. I think I've said that a handful of times to him and he just keeps ignoring it. He's asking me for an argument when I must have typed 1000 words and I gave a relatively thorough analysis of the issue of gun control. He ignored that and posted a picture of a washing machine and said something about CNN.

He's just young, not completely mature, not completely educated and not completely emotionally stable. He's apparently deeply insecure and still in that stage where "winning", as in "beating someone in an argument" is more important than having a full understanding of a given issue. You can always spot these guys because they cling like crazy to one overarching ideal and everything that they express can be linked back to just that ideal. They're not reasoning, analyzing, understanding, synthesizing information and coming to valid conclusions about reality. Instead, they're trying to use rhetorical force, via a sequence of obvious fallacies to insist that the world is the way that they want it to be.

Wouldn't it be better to understand how things actually are?
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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby Mr Reasonable » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:48 am

Here's a pretty good one.
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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby Inconvenient Reality » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:37 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:Here's a pretty good one.


That's what you call "reasoning, analyzing, understanding, synthesizing information and coming to valid conclusions about reality"? And totally not emotional whatsoever I bet.

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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby Silhouette » Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:38 pm

Inconvenient Reality wrote:
Mr Reasonable wrote:Here's a pretty good one.


That's what you call "reasoning, analyzing, understanding, synthesizing information and coming to valid conclusions about reality"? And totally not emotional whatsoever I bet.

:lol:

I see the irony is lost on you.

Mr Reasonable wrote:Like I said earlier in this thread, a point to which he's yet to respond...I think he's too emotional to have an actual debate. He's reasoning from his feelings instead of deriving his feelings from reason. I think I've said that a handful of times to him and he just keeps ignoring it. He's asking me for an argument when I must have typed 1000 words and I gave a relatively thorough analysis of the issue of gun control. He ignored that and posted a picture of a washing machine and said something about CNN.

He's just young, not completely mature, not completely educated and not completely emotionally stable. He's apparently deeply insecure and still in that stage where "winning", as in "beating someone in an argument" is more important than having a full understanding of a given issue. You can always spot these guys because they cling like crazy to one overarching ideal and everything that they express can be linked back to just that ideal. They're not reasoning, analyzing, understanding, synthesizing information and coming to valid conclusions about reality. Instead, they're trying to use rhetorical force, via a sequence of obvious fallacies to insist that the world is the way that they want it to be.

Wouldn't it be better to understand how things actually are?

I made a very similar analysis of him on another thread independently.

It's interesting how you point out that he's reasoning from his feelings instead of deriving his feelings from reason - this is exactly what he accuses "the left" of doing, against whom he has set himself. Another thing he assumes is that those he is against just make up stuff in line with their emotions and without reason - which of course is also exactly what he does. The "projection" is obvious to outside observers. I just wrote a rant on another thread about short attention spans and instant gratification, which is exactly in line with your observation about him simply wanting to "win" rather than grow. He encapsulates a caricatured version of all the fallacies that you would expect from somebody who knows nothing but suffers from the Dunning-Kruger effect, and in line with that, he holds this conviction that he is particularly superior. I think the feeling of understanding how things actually are is more valuable to him than actually understanding how things actually are.
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Re: Cause of Mass Shootings Revealed:

Postby Mr Reasonable » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:56 pm

Inconvenient Reality wrote:
Mr Reasonable wrote:Here's a pretty good one.


That's what you call "reasoning, analyzing, understanding, synthesizing information and coming to valid conclusions about reality"? And totally not emotional whatsoever I bet.

:lol:


Start at the beginning of the thread. It's only 2 pages. When you're caught up, get back to me.
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