## Trump: The Achievement of Reality in Politics

Discussion of the recent unfolding of history.

### Re: Trump: The Achievement of Reality in Politics

Zero_Sum wrote:
UrGod wrote:https://www.thebalance.com/trump-s-tax-plan-how-it-affects-you-4113968

Looking just at tax rate reductions:

Notice that the middle class receives the largest reductions in tax rates.

He also doubled the standard deduction, from $12,000 to$24,000. So the income that is actually counted as your taxable income will be lower now too.

2-3% reductions is cigarette and booze money (It's nothing really), how much tax reductions are corporations or large businesses getting again?

An extra $1000 is worth more to someone barely making ends meet than an extra$10,000 is to someone with three houses. Tax breaks are regressively beneficial just as taxes are regressively detrimental. And reducing corporate tax rate makes the US economy actually competitive with other economies. What a strange idea.

But yeah, just go along with Crumbs Pelosi. Nothing to see here.

The $82,000.00 or more a year club in your chart is quite telling where the bulk of those tax breaks are going. Yeah, it’s called the middle class. "Reality is just a racist lie, invented by male troglodytes." --Feminism >>> I am the machinery of truth. <<< UrGod Philosopher Posts: 1954 Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:14 am Location: Void of One ### Re: Trump: The Achievement of Reality in Politics UrGod wrote: Zero_Sum wrote:Donald Trump with Feinstein, "Take guns first, due process second." 1000D chess Glad you have nothing to respond with. I already pointed out similar moves he made on DACA and the government shutdown. *Jewing intensifies* No idea what that means, but you sound like a racist cunt to me. Awww, the poor zionist snowflake's feelings are hurt..... I made fun of a chosen one, awwwww.... Still a racist cunt, still making no sense whatsoever. Surprising they allow you to stay up so late on the computers in the mental asylum. Congrats. "Reality is just a racist lie, invented by male troglodytes." --Feminism >>> I am the machinery of truth. <<< UrGod Philosopher Posts: 1954 Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:14 am Location: Void of One ### Re: Trump: The Achievement of Reality in Politics UrGod wrote: Zero_Sum wrote: UrGod wrote:https://www.thebalance.com/trump-s-tax-plan-how-it-affects-you-4113968 Looking just at tax rate reductions: Notice that the middle class receives the largest reductions in tax rates. He also doubled the standard deduction, from$12,000 to $24,000. So the income that is actually counted as your taxable income will be lower now too. 2-3% reductions is cigarette and booze money (It's nothing really), how much tax reductions are corporations or large businesses getting again? An extra$1000 is worth more to someone barely making ends meet than an extra $10,000 is to someone with three houses. Tax breaks are regressively beneficial just as taxes are regressively detrimental. And reducing corporate tax rate makes the US economy actually competitive with other economies. What a strange idea. But yeah, just go along with Crumbs Pelosi. Nothing to see here. The$82,000.00 or more a year club in your chart is quite telling where the bulk of those tax breaks are going.

Yeah, it’s called the middle class.

Let's see, as usual the poor low income people that make up a majority of this country gets nothing but a few crumbs if anything and what you refer to as the middle class is hollowed up or dead and has been going on four decades. What's left of the middle class is actually upper middle class that are few in number mostly making up of the low managerial class. The rest of that tax proceeds go to most wealthy that will never reinvest a dime within the general economy or labor force.
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### Re: Trump: The Achievement of Reality in Politics

Zero_Sum wrote:
Gloominary wrote:I don't think there's been a US president since WW2 that hasn't started a new war, even Obama started several small ones:

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-pol-obama-at-war/

Trump's presidency is still young, you can bet your bottom dollar he'll start a new one.

The military industrial complex, big business and the banksters need war, war means more money and power for them, and less for you and everyone else, it doesn't matter what puppet you put in there, they're all preselected.

Donald Trump is owned by Israel and the military industrial complex. There will definitely be more war.

Are you Alex Jones? Cmon now. Be honest.

Raving conspiracies without a single thing to back it up? Psychotic level paranoia? Hmm.
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### Re: Trump: The Achievement of Reality in Politics

Zero_Sum wrote:
UrGod wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:2-3% reductions is cigarette and booze money (It's nothing really), how much tax reductions are corporations or large businesses getting again?

An extra $1000 is worth more to someone barely making ends meet than an extra$10,000 is to someone with three houses. Tax breaks are regressively beneficial just as taxes are regressively detrimental. And reducing corporate tax rate makes the US economy actually competitive with other economies. What a strange idea.

But yeah, just go along with Crumbs Pelosi. Nothing to see here.

The $82,000.00 or more a year club in your chart is quite telling where the bulk of those tax breaks are going. Yeah, it’s called the middle class. Let's see, as usual the poor low income people that make up a majority of this country gets nothing but a few crumbs if anything and what you refer to as the middle class is hollowed up or dead and has been going on four decades. What's left of the middle class is actually upper middle class that are few in number mostly making up of the managerial class. Crumbs Pelosi, aww "Reality is just a racist lie, invented by male troglodytes." --Feminism >>> I am the machinery of truth. <<< UrGod Philosopher Posts: 1954 Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:14 am Location: Void of One ### Re: Trump: The Achievement of Reality in Politics UrGod wrote: Zero_Sum wrote: Gloominary wrote:I don't think there's been a US president since WW2 that hasn't started a new war, even Obama started several small ones: http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-pol-obama-at-war/ Trump's presidency is still young, you can bet your bottom dollar he'll start a new one. The military industrial complex, big business and the banksters need war, war means more money and power for them, and less for you and everyone else, it doesn't matter what puppet you put in there, they're all preselected. Donald Trump is owned by Israel and the military industrial complex. There will definitely be more war. Are you Alex Jones? Cmon now. Be honest. Raving conspiracies without a single thing to back it up? Psychotic level paranoia? Hmm. No, Alex Jones is another zionist shill Jew lover. Also, I have a thread on Jews but you've been obviously too lazy to look it up. "The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone." "I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death." -Thomas Hobbes- "History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte “To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade “Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” ― Robert A. Heinlein "Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin “In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie Zero_Sum Machiavellian Negator, Absurdist, And Cynic Posts: 1306 Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:05 pm Location: United States- Financial And Commercial Corporate Feudal Oligarchic Empire/Gulag Of Wallstreet. ### Re: Trump: The Achievement of Reality in Politics UrGod wrote: Crumbs Pelosi, aww I'm not a democrat either idiot. "The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone." "I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death." -Thomas Hobbes- "History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte “To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade “Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” ― Robert A. Heinlein "Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin “In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie Zero_Sum Machiavellian Negator, Absurdist, And Cynic Posts: 1306 Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:05 pm Location: United States- Financial And Commercial Corporate Feudal Oligarchic Empire/Gulag Of Wallstreet. ### Re: Trump: The Achievement of Reality in Politics Red or blue, Trump or Hillary, it doesn't matter, expect war, expect your standard of living to plummet unless you're a member of the upper 1%. Gloominary Thinker Posts: 777 Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:58 am Location: Dislocated ### Re: Trump: The Achievement of Reality in Politics Zero_Sum wrote: UrGod wrote: Zero_Sum wrote:Donald Trump is owned by Israel and the military industrial complex. There will definitely be more war. Are you Alex Jones? Cmon now. Be honest. Raving conspiracies without a single thing to back it up? Psychotic level paranoia? Hmm. No, Alex Jones is another zionist shill Jew lover. Also, I have a thread on Jews but you've been obviously too lazy to look it up. That’s ok, I know how to get to infowars if I wanted to. "Reality is just a racist lie, invented by male troglodytes." --Feminism >>> I am the machinery of truth. <<< UrGod Philosopher Posts: 1954 Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:14 am Location: Void of One ### Re: Trump: The Achievement of Reality in Politics Zero_Sum wrote: UrGod wrote: Crumbs Pelosi, aww I'm not a democrat either idiot. Zero_Sum wrote: UrGod wrote: Crumbs Pelosi, aww I'm not a democrat either idiot. You do realize you can’t get more back in taxes than you paid in, right? The lower classes don’t pay much in taxes, so it’s not like they’re going to get a fat$20,000 check from these tax breaks.
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### Re: Trump: The Achievement of Reality in Politics

UrGod wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:
UrGod wrote:
Crumbs Pelosi, aww

I'm not a democrat either idiot.

Zero_Sum wrote:
UrGod wrote:
Crumbs Pelosi, aww

I'm not a democrat either idiot.

You do realize you can’t get more back in taxes than you paid in, right?

The lower classes don’t pay much in taxes, so it’s not like they’re going to get a fat $20,000 check from these tax breaks. I'm going to leave the Trumptards to jerk themselves off here in this thread as I don't see any need to argue with stupid any longer. Make sure Fixed helps you out. Have fun gents. "The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone." "I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death." -Thomas Hobbes- "History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte “To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade “Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” ― Robert A. Heinlein "Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin “In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie Zero_Sum Machiavellian Negator, Absurdist, And Cynic Posts: 1306 Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:05 pm Location: United States- Financial And Commercial Corporate Feudal Oligarchic Empire/Gulag Of Wallstreet. ### Re: Trump: The Achievement of Reality in Politics I finally made a point that is so good, it forces you to give up trolling! Wow. Incredible. I really must be spot on. Let's look at it again: You cannot get back in tax cuts what you didn't pay into taxes in the first place. Let's compare: (using Trump's new tax brackets) Guy making$20,000 a year pays $2400 in income taxes. Guy making$200,000 a year pays $64,000 in income taxes. Guy making$2,000,000 a year pays $740,000 in income taxes. Now let's say we give just a 4% tax break across the board, to keep it even. How much does everyone get back? First guy gets$800 back.
Second guy gets $8000 back. Third guy gets$80,000 back.

OH NO THAT IS SO EVIL AND UNFAIR AND SKEWED TO THE RICH!!! LOOK HOW MUCH MORE THE RICH GUY GETS BACK!!!

Lol. It is tragic that you really are this stupid, this obsessed with virtue signaling emotionalism over reality.

The third guy paid $740,000 in taxes in one year. Now he is getting back$80,000 of that, which means he is still paying \$660,000 in income taxes.

So yeah, combine this with the fact also brought up that a small number of successful rich people are paying for the lives of tens of thousands of poor people not to mention also paying the salaries of all the bureaucrats in government, and I am not actually surprised you had to run away.

Kek.
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### Re: Trump: The Achievement of Reality in Politics

It's very important that we protect people's ability to make huge amounts of money through no labor. They usually work also, so it's not like they're lazy. It is capitalism, which includes making a lot of money not through labor. While occasionally this kind of non-labor making money leads to hard-working people losing their pensions through financial crises caused by rich people finding inventive ways to make money through not doing labor, we need to applaud the Glass-Speigal act leftists like Clinton for giving the rich this chance to destroy the economy. And corporations should not be taxed. They have to spend so much money undermining democracy, lobbbying for wars their sons tend not to fight but which give them contracts that people who use their hand will carry out in foreign countries their policies have destroyed. Can we tax them for having created so much PTSD so many more terrorists, so much economic waste? How unamerican. Can we jail them for their crimes? Come on, they didn't run into any buildings with guns, even if their policies lead to other men doing this elsewhere. That's a crime. You run into a building with a gun. Stealing democracy, creating wars, destroying the economy, driving out of business businesses that treat workers more fairly, that's just business, nothing personal.
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