So propose your counter-candidates. give me an alternative to West. Ive been looking hard. West was not what I was looking for at all, its just a very thinly sown field, people on the left side with a bit of experience and integrity.
Fixed Cross wrote:It seems to me, that the United States of America, well known from this song
(and these jets)
Is a philosophical country.
It is founded after all on a document, theoretically, spiritually with the words
It introduces a principle.
The People!
But what does it mean?
For the presidents have been such men of honor as here are proudly displayed!
and yet the peoples, they speak now with great disdain
Because the presidents have become less philosophical, and the people more so.
I now wish to point out Rutherford Hayes, who introduced the idea of lenience to the southern camp, sot hat its economy could be restored, and the idealistic yanks were all over him and he had to promise them a single term. He did some good in this single term, as he did not worry about getting re elected! A miracle maker, an actually wise man who understands leadership and responsibility, and the fundamental ignobility of politics.
My thesis is this: a philosophical president of this nation under the Sun of All, must be one who recognizes the dirt of politics.
People are thinking that the world is going crazy, but what is happening is the internet. We now see what our politicians do.
We now see that what they do has literally nothing to do with what they say besides that one can guess very well what is behind what is said to see what is meant.
Looking ahead then, at 2020 - the next elections. Lets start preparing for them here, so that they might bot become quite as grotesque and blindsided as these... and to push it, give it a little nudge toward a philosophical approach. To stand at the beginning of a chaos is to give birth to a whole school of dancing stars. And schooling it is this world needs, and dance -
Rutherford Hayes on the dollar, because he is a philosopher.
Trump on the Penny because he is not a politician but a man and not a globalist but an American
But the next president will have to be a Jefferson of sorts, in order to understand the needs of both the people qua intelligentsia and the people qua people - to integrate the media and the people, after the process of disintegrating the media from themselves has been somewhat advanced... the media have always belonged to tyrants, now they belong to us. This is the media, we begin here to surrect a philosophical presidency,
First things first - no joke, we need to get this out of the way --- Who do you trust? let's round them up. No parties - just candidates. The dichotomy is over, Trumps shown at least that
Don't hold back now boys (and girls, in it too these days, due to Rutherford in no small way) !
Gᛟd Bless
barbarianhorde wrote:Mr Trump, the great man who has saved us from genocide and nuclear holocaust must be honored everywhere with whatever we have to honor him. But also we are the People and we will keep talking to him because if we talk loud enough he will listen.
Here I start this thread with a good comment from Parodites the friend of Fixed Cross.
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PARODITES:
I've said a lot about politics and economics these last few months, and my Trump support is very evident. I've got to re-read everything I've said and integrate it... Nobody knows the true meaning of what's happened yet, not even Trump. It's important to understand exactly how this happened. That has become one of my primary goals, philosophically. And the great thing is, the entire media and academic and political classes have proven themselves for the last year and a half- incapable of that challenge. As Capable was saying, the enemy is not right or left or rep or democrat. The enemy is bigger than any of those things. Under Bush it manifested as the right, under Obama as the Left: but those are just its masks... Trump's victory has pulled off that mask.
If Clinton would have won, she would have allowed unmitigated immigration from foreign nations, and because these people all vote democrat, we would have found ourselves with effectively a one-party country- we would have only a mock vestige of a democracy: if recognizing this fact is all it takes to be branded a racist, then racist means nothing now. She would have gleefully ushered in a second cold war with the Russians. She would have pushed the globalist agenda forward and further bankrupted the US, diminishing the very meaning of the idea of the nation-state. She would have expanded our imperial trespasses in foreign nations and the middle east.
It is unfortunate that your friend took down the site. But we must be more gracious to those we have defeated, than they would have been to us if they had prevailed. Can you imagine the ridicule, the scorn, etc, if she'd have won? But I have no intention of rubbing this victory in anyone's face- just a little relatively silent gloating, which is certainly forgivable given these historic- truly historic, circumstances. A lot of these Clinton supporters probably weren't interested in politics, economics, philosophy, nationalism vs globalism, or any of this before, and they likely just bought into the bullshit media spin on Trump and thought they were doing a good thing standing in his way. * It's up to us now to demonstrate the reality to them: that they were wrong, and that they can still do the good thing. We all want the same thing, in the end; the emancipation of the human spirit, the prevailing of civilization over barbarism. The only people who don't want that are our political elites: and we have defeated them.
It is important to keep in mind, however, that it was never about Trump. Maybe a little bit about Trump... It was really about what his victory means: it means the old Republican party of bible thumpers and whatnot is gone forever, along with the Democratic neolibs who are basically just their satellite- as I've said there are no such things as conservative or liberal anymore there is just neoconservative and neoliberal corporatists, and the entire senate and house that Trump must now cleanse is filled with a bunch of Moloch-worshiping nihilists that would sell this country out for a check at a moment's notice: the media's reputation is destroyed forever, the unchecked march of globalism is repelled for the time being, the polling firms and all of academia have been proven wrong- and that means they are truly out of sync with the people and what is actually happening underneath all the bullshit and the tv, and it means that our democracy isn't bullshit after all, above all else; if we can put Donald Trump in the fucking white house, then for good or ill the people actually do still have power, even in the 21st century. President George Washington... President Thomas Jefferson... President Adams... President... Donald... J... Trump.
Trump has done at least this one thing, which nobody can take away from him: he's pulled the curtain back and revealed that, surprise, nobody's running this thing after all. There are no masters, there are no "experts," there is no political elite. The captains of the ship had eyes that never saw further than any of our own. There is nobody there in charge of the world save for... us. The people. Generations, years upon years of bullshit pretended elections, candidates we'd never even heard of before fed to us as our "choices."... may have made many of us cynical of politics and its potential in general, may have convinced us that it was all already paid for and sewn up, that there were actually people in charge of history: but now you can rest assured that, for good or ill, we are in charge.
This is a battle and the war will go on, but remember- a serious, a very serious, blow has been struck to the following:
Entire globalist international community
Corrupt corporatist political machine
Media
Academia
Bush Dynasty
Clinton Dynasty
Republican Establishment
Democrat Establishment
Neoliberal left
Neoconservative right
With the media dead, the Internet will take over their role of presenting and defending: truth. With the academics and political "experts" dethroned, a new territory has opened for those who can actually explain what we've just seen take place. With the dynasties cut off, the presidency will be opened up for generations to new blood from all domains, we will get to see many come forward and be elected from outside the limited, stunted, irrelevant political class, after Trump. With the globalists repelled, the potential for new international relations will appear in which more than just the corporate elite get wealthy.
The wheel of history is moving again, where it's going, as I said in the beginning of this post, is beyond everyone's current understanding. There will, as I've said, be great economic crises that were inevitable regardless of Trump's victory or failure. Trump has inherited perhaps the most politically torn, philosophically deformed, most severely divided populace ever to exist in the US. There will be great difficulties in that as well. The globalist corporate leeches still control most of the other nation states- and they are now going to double down against the US, but we have at least one on our side after Brexit.
But we are now in history. Think of that very intently: we are in history again. Many had named our era the end of history, the end of politics. We know now, regardless of whose side you were on, that this is not true.
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* Save for Amy Schumer. Deport that fat cow immediately Donald... I mean, Mr. President.
Are you on abput them emotional-intuitive absurditites again? Did you think Alexander the Great was sitting crossed legged in his room discerning which type he is?
I'm not using Astrology as a personality typology,
Turd Ferguson wrote:Much of Myers-Briggs as stand alone can be ridiculed, it isn't much different in structure from any Ying-Yang theory in it's abstract. What makes it valuable is that starting with Hung, who wacky as his ideas were, he was a qualified medical doctor, was that a actual psychological basis was asserted, then later on other theorists started asserting neurological mapping to this.
Imagine concepts "North, South, East, West" if your were just a brain in a vat. It isn't anything worthwhile, perhaps after a while you could explain logically how men would think as such, grasp how such thinking relates to some modes of ponderance more than others.... but imagine if you were eventually given a body, magnetic compass, and map. A lot of the idea would be affirmed, but new quandries presented in the nature of navigation. You'll find that compass directions are largely correct, but it exposes whole new problems needing resolved, like magnetic shifts in the compass over geographic north or south, as well as places between two spots on a compass, and places elevated or below a spot on a map.
That's how MBTI is wrong. It still has a lot right about it.
And my Astrology Chart happens to be fairly accurate. Yes, astrology acts like a clock and is largely bullshit as a determinator, but it does have a few thousand years if trial and efforts, and does sometimes result in fairly accurate pronouncements. I just don't ever encourage anyone to rush out and learn it, because the time of your birth is a shit poor indicator of your adult personality type. But hey, a clock is right two times a day and us right mostly on my account.
I was born February 11,1983 8:24 PM, San Andreas, California.
Fairly accurate description of me, and a good one for a INTJ, as well as a philosopher. My description also states I'm destined to straight up kick Fixed Crosses ass if he tried to twist it around as something bad, and that the beating would be painful for him, and funny as hell to everyone else. It is written in the stars, you can't change such a fate.
Doesn't explain why in Indian Astrology I get a different reading, despite the "science" being just as mathematically solid.
Pandora wrote:Trump strikes me as a natural introvert, pretending to be an extrovert.
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