Zionist Solutions

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Re: Zionist Solutions

Postby Pandora » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:58 am

From its very conception, Israel was meant for particular idealized kind of Jews, modern and secular, up to the current enlightened European standards. But how can one maintain that Zionism was being anti-Semitic at heart when it was first founded, and at the same time to say that to criticize it is also being anti-Semitic? Does that not mean that a Jew cannot ever really be anti-Semitic, and even his so called anti-semitic actions are to be forgiven?
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Re: Zionist Solutions

Postby URUZ » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:39 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:Jut be glad that you don't know what you're talking about.



I find this to be the most common ethos of these... people.
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Re: Zionist Solutions

Postby Pandora » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:11 am

And so what of the idea that were it not for anti Semitism, the Jewish identity would have been long assimilated into non-existence? In that it only served/serves to preserve and strengthen the Jewish identity?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljaze ... 12381.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.haaret ... /1.4687494
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Re: Zionist Solutions

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:50 am

Pandora wrote:And so what of the idea that were it not for anti Semitism, the Jewish identity would have been long assimilated into non-existence? In that it only served/serves to preserve and strengthen the Jewish identity?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljaze ... 12381.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.haaret ... /1.4687494

It's an idea third parties can talk about, but it doesn't excuse, say, you.
Perhaps your kid gets sexually abused by a pedophile. This brings you and your husband, prior to that near a divorce, closer. Your kid growns up with a new calling to prevent children suffering and leads a valuable centered on that.
This doesn't excuse the pedophile.
Someone shoots you because you took their parking spaces, as they viewed it.
In emergency surgery the doctors discover a large tumor, which, if not found this early would have killed you.
The parking space maniac still should go to prison.

It's a groundless confused argument and one used by bullies, and it has a kind of sick twist of the knife in it: I am actually helping you even as I intend no such thing and hate you.

It may sound cool. Oh, here's a way I can make someone feel guilty about hating the fact that mistreat them, heh,heh.

But it's BS. And for those few stupid enough to be coninved themselves that the argument makes sense - rather than consciously using it as another weapon - they've actually damaged themelves also, but hiding themselves from themselves.

Of course for that you'd have to be pretty dumb-
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