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Postby iambiguous » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:52 am

Light travels at approximately 186,000 miles a second. That is about 6,000,000,000,000 miles a year.

The closest star to us is Alpha Centauri. It is 4.75 light-years away. 28,500,000,000,000 miles.

So, traveling at 186,000 miles a second, it would take us 4.75 years to reach it. The voyager spacecraft [just now exiting our solar system] will take 70,000 years to reach it.

To reach the center of the Milky Way galaxy it would take 100,000 light-years.

Or consider this:

"To get to the closest galaxy to ours, the Canis Major Dwarf, at Voyager's speed, it would take approximately 749,000,000 years to travel the distance of 25,000 light years! If we could travel at the speed of light, it would still take 25,000 years!"

The Andromeda galaxy is 2.537 million light years away.

Or this:

"The universe is about 13.7 billion years old. Light reaching us from the earliest known galaxies has been traveling, therefore, for more than 13 billion years. So one might assume that the radius of the universe is 13.7 billion light-years and that the whole shebang is double that, or 27.4 billion light-years wide."

For all practical purposes, it is beyond the imagination of mere mortals here on planet Earth to grasp just how staggeringly immense the universe is.

As for situating "I" in all of this...?
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: Consider...

Postby Meno_ » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:02 pm

iambiguous wrote:Light travels at approximately 186,000 miles a second. That is about 6,000,000,000,000 miles a year.

The closest star to us is Alpha Centauri. It is 4.75 light-years away. 28,500,000,000,000 miles.

So, traveling at 186,000 miles a second, it would take us 4.75 years to reach it. The voyager spacecraft [just now exiting our solar system] will take 70,000 years to reach it.

To reach the center of the Milky Way galaxy it would take 100,000 light-years.

Or consider this:

"To get to the closest galaxy to ours, the Canis Major Dwarf, at Voyager's speed, it would take approximately 749,000,000 years to travel the distance of 25,000 light years! If we could travel at the speed of light, it would still take 25,000 years!"

The Andromeda galaxy is 2.537 million light years away.

Or this:

"The universe is about 13.7 billion years old. Light reaching us from the earliest known galaxies has been traveling, therefore, for more than 13 billion years. So one might assume that the radius of the universe is 13.7 billion light-years and that the whole shebang is double that, or 27.4 billion light-years wide."

For all practical purposes, it is beyond the imagination of mere mortals here on planet Earth to grasp just how staggeringly immense the universe is.

As for situating "I" in all of this...?



And yet a preconceptual ever present God can transcend that almost in immediacy, even if multiple universes exist. God could appear by not even moving from one place to another in a timeless, eternal immediacy as well. Mankind and his currently primitive science has seen nothing yet, only possibly a percent if what may yet to be revealed.

In time travel, the quantum jumps in Star wars and Other sci fi films, imagination hints at such future developments..

The ant sees and experiences its short life totally constructed in very different ways. Mankind is an ant in that aspect. nut the difference is notable that.man has more often identifiable features with a mirrored and developing image of himself, with only an absolute sense of a super man God as his final destination
Perhaps we are but seedlings planted here by a very much superior race of early visitors who were mearly passing by..
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Re: Consider...

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:01 pm

iambiguous wrote:For all practical purposes, it is beyond the imagination of mere mortals here on planet Earth to grasp just how staggeringly immense the universe is.
Not sure there's much of a need to. Just a few professionals who might need to.

As for situating "I" in all of this...?
Might be better things to mull over when 'situating' an I.

Like figuring out how to communicate with a spouse by studying the weather on Jupiter.
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Re: Consider...

Postby iambiguous » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:16 pm

Meno_ wrote: And yet a preconceptual ever present God can transcend that almost in immediacy, even if multiple universes exist. God could appear by not even moving from one place to another in a timeless, eternal immediacy as well


Not only that but after you die this God then assures you immortality in paradise. Providing of course you don't displease Him on this side of the grave.

Meno_ wrote:Mankind and his currently primitive science has seen nothing yet, only possibly a percent if what may yet to be revealed.


True, there's no getting around that.

Meno_ wrote: In time travel, the quantum jumps in Star wars and Other sci fi films, imagination hints at such future developments..


Well, that's a scripted reality. And then there's the part where "I" has to be around when these future developments unfold.

Meno_ wrote: The ant sees and experiences its short life totally constructed in very different ways. Mankind is an ant in that aspect.


An ant capable of contemplating his or her "place" in the vastness of all there is.

Meno_ wrote: Perhaps we are but seedlings planted here by a very much superior race of early visitors who were mearly passing by..

Or perhaps the strangeness of the whole truth here exceeds anything that anyone of us can even imagine.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: Consider...

Postby iambiguous » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:29 pm

Karpel Tunnel wrote:
iambiguous wrote:For all practical purposes, it is beyond the imagination of mere mortals here on planet Earth to grasp just how staggeringly immense the universe is.
Not sure there's much of a need to. Just a few professionals who might need to.


It's not a question of needing to. It is a simple fact that the evolution of life on earth has culminated in human brains that are capable of thinking about things like this.

Among other things [for some] it is fascinating stuff.

As to why particular individuals are more or less likely to be fascinated by it, that's embedded in the manner in which I construe the meaning of dasein.

Clearly, in not needing to fascinated by it, I would never argue that one ought to be.

After all, there are things we really do need to focus our attention on. Like sustaining our existence from day to day. Or, for most of us, paying the bills.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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