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Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:01 pm
by Ecmandu
31 divided 0 times is just still 31

0 divided 31 times is just still 0 (still nothing to divide)

What this means is that

0 divided by 0 (nothing not divided) is just 0

Everyone who parrots that 0 divided by 0 is undefined, has just learned how to parrot math ...

They don't actually understand the simplicity of the true answer

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:54 pm
by The Golden Turd
No, 0 รท 0 = Something. You can't focus on nothing.

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:35 pm
by surreptitious57
When the numerator is zero and the denominator is a positive integer the answer is infinity not zero
Even where the denominator is also zero the answer can still be infinity as well as zero and also one

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:01 pm
by James S Saint
Ecmandu wrote:31 divided 0 times is just still 31

You are mis-reading it.

31/2 = 31 divided into 2 pieces. - each piece = 15.5, [2 * 15.5 = 31]
31/0 = 31 divided into 0 pieces. - makes no sense and thus = "undefined" (not "infinity"), [0 * ?nothing? = 31]

Ecmandu wrote:0 divided 31 times is just still 0 (still nothing to divide)

0/31 = 0 divided into 31 pieces - each piece is still zero, [31 * 0 = 0]

Ecmandu wrote:0 divided by 0 (nothing not divided) is just 0

0/0 = 0 divided into 0 pieces - still makes no sense because it is "indeterminate", [0 * ?anything? = 0]

Ecmandu wrote:Everyone who parrots that 0 divided by 0 is undefined, has just learned how to parrot math ...

They don't actually understand the simplicity of the true answer

Well .. someone didn't.


In hyperreal notation, those same numbers can be resolved because more information is within the notation. Each "0" has a degree of zero that it is, not merely an ambiguous nothing.

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:33 pm
by Meno_
That's because 0 is not nothing. Or rather, nothing is not = 0.

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:09 pm
by Ecmandu
Oh c'mon you guys...

Zero is the lack of quantity.

Dividing a lack of quantity still gives you a lack of quantity.

A lack of quantity dividing a quantity just leaves you with the initial quantity.

Honestly folks!!

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:34 pm
by James S Saint
Then divide 2 apples into a lack of quantity of apples.

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:25 pm
by phyllo
If 31 divided by 0 is 31 and 31 divided by 1 is also 31, then logically 0=1

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:29 pm
by James S Saint
phyllo wrote:If 31 divided by 0 is 31 and 31 divided by 1 is also 31, then logically 0=1

Oh please don't get him started on that again. :-?

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:46 pm
by surreptitious57
0 / 31 = infinity
31 / 0 = nonsense

0 / 0 = 0 and 1 and infinity
[ so three different answers]

Any positive integer / 0 = nonsense
Any negative integer / 0 = nonsense

0 / any positive integer = infinity
0 / any negative integer = nonsense

0 / anything above 0 = infinity
0 / anything below 0 = nonsense

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:58 pm
by The Golden Turd
Phyllo, explain.

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:04 am
by surreptitious57
He has explained and also that is it in its simplest form
What is it about his explanation you do not understand

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:48 am
by The Golden Turd
That is up to Phyllo to ask. He is making a asserting similar to mine, I want to cross examine it. Cross examining you doesn't get me into a place of potentially grasping my own position better, I already know your wrong, what matters now is the specifics in how Phyllo is right.

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:51 am
by Ecmandu
I'm really sorry to burst your bubble phyllo, and in the process maybe make you all mad at me ...

If you divide something by 1... You simply (aside from the concept of equality) split into two pieces...

The problem is you guys parrot shit instead of thinking it through ...

Math gets people as angry as sports, but I'm not lying.

You guys interpret dividing something by 1 as dividing it by itself, however 31 pieces of 31 is not the same as 31!!

You guys have been brainwashed!

Continue, and I'll keep replying

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:53 am
by MagsJ
James S Saint wrote:
phyllo wrote:If 31 divided by 0 is 31 and 31 divided by 1 is also 31, then logically 0=1

Oh please don't get him started on that again. :-?

:lol:

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:57 am
by surreptitious57
Turd Ferguson wrote:
I already know your wrong what matters now is the specifics in how phyllo is right

So you agree with phyllo and I agree with phyllo but I am still wrong and he is right

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:59 am
by The Golden Turd
One doesn't = Whole

This is a presumption One is always monistic. One is a Dyad is 2 and 1 simultaneously, but not three as the two states are presumptions of states of being and not actuality, so are not mutually in play upon the other simultaneously, by themselves.

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:05 am
by Ecmandu
Turd Ferguson wrote:One doesn't = Whole

This is a presumption One is always monistic. One is a Dyad is 2 and 1 simultaneously, but not three as the two states are presumptions of states of being and not actuality, so are not mutually in play upon the other simultaneously, by themselves.


That makes no sense whatsoever...

You've been reading too much Greek philosophy!!!

One triad is also a whole and three...

What's your point btw??

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:10 am
by surreptitious57
31 / 0 = nonsense [ something into nothing cannot go ]
0 / 31 = infinity [ nothing into something can go ]

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:15 am
by surreptitious57
Ecmandu wrote:
31 divided 0 times is just still 31 No
0 divided 31 times is just still 0 [ still nothing to divide ] No

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:20 am
by surreptitious57
Ecmandu wrote:
31 divided 0 times is just still 31 31 / 1 = 31
0 divided 31 times is just still 0 [ still nothing to divide ] 0 / 0 = 0

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:21 am
by Ecmandu
surreptitious57 wrote:31 / 0 = nonsense [ something into nothing cannot go ]
0 / 31 = infinity [ nothing into something can go ]


31 divided no times is still 31

No quantity divided "31" times is still no quantity ...

Maybe you can be kind and call the latter a virtual or imaginary number to your stance. Regardless, dividing a lack of quantity 31 times does not create a quantity, not an undefined

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:21 am
by The Golden Turd
Not if the whole is Dyad Ecamndu. Are you doing the recount for Jill Stein Ecmandu? You including new votes in there count?

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:25 am
by Ecmandu
Turd Ferguson wrote:Not if the whole is Dyad Ecamndu. Are you doing the recount for Jill Stein Ecmandu? You including new votes in there count?


Prove that a whole meta concept such a dyad can only be dyad and not triad as well.

We can easily abstract "group". (Monad) as anything we want!

Re: Dividing by zero

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:31 am
by surreptitious57
Ecmandu wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:
31 / 0 = nonsense [ something into nothing cannot go ]

0 / 31 = infinity [ nothing into something can go ]

31 divided no times is still 31

31 not being divided at all is not 31 being divided by 0

31 = 31 [ not being divided at all ] but 31 / 0 = nonsense