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The Values That Set Off The Aging Process

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:56 pm

It's interesting that the aging process is set off as a destructive campaign by the body on itself - it is not simply some wearing out. There are species that don't age. They just find death in their environment.

Ive seen that people belonnging to a Church invariably age quicker. Muslims in the Netherlands start to age gravely in their thirties, by their forties they are wrinkled and shrunk like an average Dutchman doesnt even approach at 90. There are no old muslims in the streets except the occasional little man, who looks at little girls with a faint smile. I reckon this is simply because self-valuing is not possible in Islam, and the body quickly gives off the self-destruct commando.

The flipside of this is that to those to whom life is entirely natural, those self-valuings that are truly integer, it may very well be possible to postpone the commando, and liver for a couple of hundred of years. I think no technological artifice may be required, just a life lived as a true affirmation, a true self-valuing; in pragmatic terms, this is to say, a life of extreme generosity, courage and real-time problem solving intelligence.

The aging process is simply a function of entropy, which sets in when the self-valuing logos goes asleep, and the human accepts "the world" for "what it is".... and dies as an entity, some time before his eyes close and his skin starts peeling.

The ancient Greeks tended to live to well over 90 - most philosophers whose names remain reached high ages. Only when Christianity set in, did the life expectancy drop by over fifty percent. And only when Christianity started losing its grip did the life expectancy begin to rise again.

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Re: The Values That Set Off The Aging Process

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:14 pm

Christians look forward into heaven, so they push their own deaths so they can go to it quicker. They believe if you commit suicide you go to hell, so they have to use loopholes to speed their death in more expedient ways.
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Re: The Values That Set Off The Aging Process

Postby James S Saint » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:20 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:Christians look forward into heaven, so they push their own deaths so they can go to it quicker. They believe if you commit suicide you go to hell, so they have to use loopholes to speed their death in more expedient ways.

You wish, but quite the opposite.

And what is found is that aged people, generally those who mature more quickly are church associated. And association in the West during these days of socialist take over, like Stalin's Russia, can lead to extermination through hidden, biochemical means. But only a few years ago, religious people were notably living longer than atheists.

The advancement of technology has done little more than allow men to kill with greater subtlety and thus shift blame more often.
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Re: The Values That Set Off The Aging Process

Postby Pandora » Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:00 pm

There may be an argument to the will to live but the connection between personal values and longevity is not so straightforward. Look at Cioran, based on his values, he should have committed suicide very early in his life, but the bastard lived to the ripe old age of 84 and died in a Paris hospital, from Alzheimer's disease.
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Re: The Values That Set Off The Aging Process

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:40 am

Christians live shorter because they feel guilty while having sex. And they never experience the marvelous and freeing wonders of bisexualism, freakism, and the BDSM community.

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Re: The Values That Set Off The Aging Process

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:11 am

Pandora wrote:There may be an argument to the will to live but the connection between personal values and longevity is not so straightforward. Look at Cioran, based on his values, he should have committed suicide very early in his life, but the bastard lived to the ripe old age of 84 and died in a Paris hospital, from Alzheimer's disease.


some just dont have the constitution for suicide.
I dont know his early life values as he explicated them, but I do know that his approach to language was rather Dionysiac. He may have just flirted with cynicism like any healthy young artist does.
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Re: The Values That Set Off The Aging Process

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:15 am

James S Saint wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:Christians look forward into heaven, so they push their own deaths so they can go to it quicker. They believe if you commit suicide you go to hell, so they have to use loopholes to speed their death in more expedient ways.

You wish, but quite the opposite.

And what is found is that aged people, generally those who mature more quickly are church associated. And association in the West during these days of socialist take over, like Stalin's Russia, can lead to extermination through hidden, biochemical means. But only a few years ago, religious people were notably living longer than atheists.

The advancement of technology has done little more than allow men to kill with greater subtlety and thus shift blame more often.

I roughly agree, but I think we should drop the whole church talk and just note that spiritual people tend to age well. Not for nothing, spirit literally means breath.
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Re: The Values That Set Off The Aging Process

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:16 am

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:Christians live shorter because they feel guilty while having sex. And they never experience the marvelous and freeing wonders of bisexualism, freakism, and the BDSM community.

What is bisexualism, freakism, and the BDSM community you may ask?

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Re: The Values That Set Off The Aging Process

Postby The Golden Turd » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:15 pm

I reckon this is simply because self-valuing is not possible in Islam, and the body quickly gives off the self-destruct commando.


Or, because you've only seen immigrant populations, and not ones who have grown up on the high protein cheese fed diet your taller Dutch (you don't seem too tall yourself) population gets life around?

People who are members of organized religions, not just Christianity, outlast everyone in every country I've researched.

Moroccans had some serious dun exposure as well before migrating. Nothing to do with values or spirituality, just having a routine and community, a way to release stress and purpose.

I could point to the general idea from Genesis of life cycles, people who followed God lived longer than those who didn't. The ages themselves aren't original, that was a Babylonian intropolation, but the geneology and expected health benefits are likely a originally Jewish concept that if you live a God fearing lifestyle, you outlast others. And honestly, it is true.

I don't drink, smoke, or use drugs, I walk a lot. I'm likely going to outlast most of the drug users here. I didn't do any valuation to get this result. My main hobby is reading and writing, I'm unlikely to ever hit a point, even blindness won't stop me, where I feel I can't do the things I always used to do. I went through that when my knee went to crap, was heart breaking, I prided myself on always being that fastest with the highest endurance. Now I merely have to be smarter than you Jakob. You make it so easy with your drug use.
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Re: The Values That Set Off The Aging Process

Postby surreptitious57 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:24 am

I currently do not drink or smoke or take drugs either. And I walk every
where. Now whether this will help me live a long life only time can tell
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