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Re: The future of our Sun, its planets, and our Milky Way.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:43 am
by Meno_
What happens that far in the future is non of our concern, nevertheless less. According to Stephen Hawking, in a recent seminar, mankind has to find habitable earth like planets to which it can escape from the coming cataclysm. This will not to do with
the demise of the solar system billions of years hence, but the certain ecological destruction of the earth due to population increase. There is no doubt he says, we have only 10,000 years to leave.

A1 development is certain to end in failure , he adds, because human development will be dwarfed by artificial intelligence built with self replicating and self developmental capacities, making humanity redundant.

With these short term projections, the fate of our solar system will not be our concern. We may never know it's fate, since we will not be here, if we survive AI and can escape the barren earth left devoid of its rescourses, we will wake up in other worlds, not really knowing our origins on planet earth.

In fact we may look at the solar system, from afar, not really cogniscant of whether it is still there, or are they merely the remaining light emitted from them a long time ago, the length of which would be changed relative to the aberration of time-space.

Re: The future of our Sun, its planets, and our Milky Way.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:15 am
by Arminius
Do you believe what Stephen Hawking says?

The statement that "we have only a very short time for leaving this planet" is similar to the statement that "we need more money for the urgent research" (or at least to make this subject relevant).

3 billion years are a very long time, thus almost irrelevant to human beings with a lifespan of about 80 years. 10 thousand years are not a very a long time, but also almost irrelevant to most human beings.

Re: The future of our Sun, its planets, and our Milky Way.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:00 am
by Arminius
But okay, here are some objects that could become relevamt:

1) Jupiter's moon Europa:

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2) Saturn's moon Titan:

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Both moons are relatively (compared with the planet Earth) small for the current 7.475 billion human beings:

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But 1% of the current 7.475 billion human beings could comfortably live on Europa or on Titan. :wink:

Re: The future of our Sun, its planets, and our Milky Way.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:11 am
by Arminius

Re: The future of our Sun, its planets, and our Milky Way.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:36 pm
by Arminius

Re: The future of our Sun, its planets, and our Milky Way.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:28 pm
by Meno_
If it doesen't wipe it's self out before that, or by caveat nature does not.

Re: The future of our Sun, its planets, and our Milky Way.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:33 pm
by Meno_
The church was right in suppressing science, after all.
It would have not killed faith, and belief in a universal purpose. It is faithlessness which causes fear, which causes a deconstruction of the idea of man.

Re: The future of our Sun, its planets, and our Milky Way.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:38 pm
by Meno_
Therefore that idea can not be created by man,nor recreated, it has to be again revealed by God.
What god is would surprise anyone willing to dwelve into It.

Re: The future of our Sun, its planets, and our Milky Way.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:48 pm
by Arminius
A computer-generated image representing space debris as seen from high Earth orbit (HEO). The two main debris fields are the ring of objects in geosynchronous Earth orbit (GEO) and the cloud of objects in low Earth orbit (LEO):

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Re: The future of our Sun, its planets, and our Milky Way.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:12 pm
by Arminius
jerkey wrote:The church was right in suppressing science, after all.

You mean the leaders of the church until a certain time, namely until the time when the secular leaders had finally won their fight against the church. But think of other institutions of the church, especially the monasteries. The Occidental monasteries of the Early Middle Ages can be interpreted as the first universities (the real universities appeared later).