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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:10 am

He's not real man.
You see...a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:15 am

mr reasonable wrote:He's not real man.


I didn't say he was 'real'. I think there's a possibility that the story was based off of a real person but at present time such postulations are inconclusive.

I like entertaining the notion anyways. Nonetheless I like the literary story.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:18 am

Let's go and steal some rich people's shit and evade taxes.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:19 am

mr reasonable wrote:Let's go and steal some rich people's shit and evade taxes.


That's a plan I can get on board with. :)
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:35 am

I'm gonna go to the gas station right now and run the change scam where you give em a 20 then they give you 10 and change, then you say, "wait, I have a ten right here." Then they give the 20 back and you give them the 10 back and you end up leaving with your shit free or something, depending on how much shit you got and all.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:17 am

mr reasonable wrote:I'm gonna go to the gas station right now and run the change scam where you give em a 20 then they give you 10 and change, then you say, "wait, I have a ten right here." Then they give the 20 back and you give them the 10 back and you end up leaving with your shit free or something, depending on how much shit you got and all.


That only works if the cashier is mentally retarded. I suggest you go to the local Walmart instead.

Might have better luck since a bunch of retards work there.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:34 am

You have to find the weak gas station attendants. They're usually in the lower rent areas.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:39 am

mr reasonable wrote:You have to find the weak gas station attendants. They're usually in the lower rent areas.


I don't know man. In the cities it is mostly Indians and Pakis nowadays.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:54 am

True.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:34 pm

So, are there any contenders out there? :-k

Name and pick your poison for debate. Let's have at it.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Carleas » Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:42 pm

A few propositions I would support in a debate:

- Capitalism is bad (you argue that it's good)
- Life is meaningless/pointless/etc. (you argue that it's meaningful/purposeful/etc.)
- Morality is subjective (you argue that it's objective)

My idea is to pick something where I think we disagree, and swap sides for the purpose of an exhibition debate. I'm open to other topics that fit the general mold.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:58 pm

1. I support anarcho capitalism which isn't the same thing to its state run counterpart.
2. I argue that fundamentally existence is a chaotic one where I am in acceptance of that.
3. I support the notions of moral nihilism and skepticism within my own very cynical perception of the world.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Carleas » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:06 pm

OK, so lets have a formal debate where I support anarcho-captialism and you support keynsian capitalism with central control. The point is to get use both to argue in favor of positions we don't agree with, and against the position we do agree with.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:08 pm

Carleas wrote:OK, so lets have a formal debate where I support anarcho-captialism and you support keynsian capitalism with central control. The point is to get use both to argue in favor of positions we don't agree with, and against the position we do agree with.



Why debate like that? That doesn't make any sense.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Carleas » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:16 pm

Debates are exhibition. They're more about the art of rhetoric than actually proving a position. Arguing a position you don't agree with is great practice in that respect.

Moreover, they are beneficial in helping you analyze your own beliefs: if you can't present the best case against what you believe, how can you be sure that your belief is right? And an exhibition, where your reputation for rhetoric is on the line, forces you to make as good an argument as you can - if you half-ass it, you might protect your blind adherence to the belief, but everyone will see it and you'll lose the debate.

Such a debate is a personal challenge and a good habit. It makes perfect sense.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:18 pm

Carleas wrote:Debates are exhibition. They're more about the art of rhetoric than actually proving a position. Arguing a position you don't agree with is great practice in that respect.

Moreover, they are beneficial in helping you analyze your own beliefs: if you can't present the best case against what you believe, how can you be sure that your belief is right? And an exhibition, where your reputation for rhetoric is on the line, forces you to make as good an argument as you can - if you half-ass it, you might protect your blind adherence to the belief, but everyone will see it and you'll lose the debate.

Such a debate is a personal challenge and a good habit. It makes perfect sense.


I'll only debate under normal circumstances.

You can do that with somebody else if you like. 8)
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Carleas » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:37 pm

Alright, I challenge you to a debate in which I defend the proposition that devil's advocate debates are reasonable and good, and you argue that they make no sense or you're somehow above them.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:43 pm

Carleas wrote:Alright, I challenge you to a debate in which I defend the proposition that devil's advocate debates are reasonable and good, and you argue that they make no sense or you're somehow above them.


Nice try. No. :)
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:41 pm

I think laughing man is skurred.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:06 pm

mr reasonable wrote:I think laughing man is skurred.


No. I only like debating the conventional way.

You know, actually debating your own views.

Why would I debate opposition point of view to my own? That just does not make any sense to me.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:08 pm

To use your superior debate power to strengthen your actual views. It's that whole "examined life" thing.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:10 pm

mr reasonable wrote:To use your superior debate power to strengthen your actual views. It's that whole "examined life" thing.


I've already examined my opposition or opposers. That's how I've reached my own conclusions already.

I've also already examined my own views several times.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:15 pm

Carleas is probably a good debater. See if you can knock down your own views, thrown at you by him through arguing the other side. To learn your opponent you gotta be your opponent. There's value in the exercise no doubt.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:34 pm

mr reasonable wrote:Carleas is probably a good debater. See if you can knock down your own views, thrown at you by him through arguing the other side. To learn your opponent you gotta be your opponent. There's value in the exercise no doubt.


I don't mind debating Carleas if it is done by conventional method.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Simms » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:32 am

Carleas wrote:Alright, I challenge you to a debate in which I defend the proposition that devil's advocate debates are reasonable and good, and you argue that they make no sense or you're somehow above them.

Sounds like a good debate to me. I vote for this one.

LaughingMan wrote:I don't mind debating Carleas if it is done by conventional method.

Carleas' challenge is a conventional debate and this is something you have a strong view on.
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